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Citizen Rules 03-09-23 08:16 PM

Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
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Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!
War movies needed now!




I'm looking for some great war movie recommendations. If I like them enough they will make my ballot. If it's on your ballot and mine, then the movie has a better chance of making the final countdown!

I'm planning on watching a boat load of war movies in prep for the countdown. When I watch one I'll post my thoughts so you can see what I thought of it. So spam bombs away...

Hit me up with some good war films!




Allaby 03-09-23 08:25 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
Some recommendations:

Breaker Morant (1980)
The Bridge (1959)
Foreign Correspondent (1940)
Hotel Rwanda (2004)
The Imitation Game (2014)
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)
A Matter of Life and Death (1946)
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek (1944)
To Be or Not to Be (1942)
Wings (1927)

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Allaby (Post 2377005)
Some recommendations:

Breaker Morant (1980)
The Bridge (1959)
Foreign Correspondent (1940)
Hotel Rwanda (2004)
The Imitation Game (2014)
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943)
A Matter of Life and Death (1946)
The Miracle of Morgan's Creek (1944)
To Be or Not to Be (1942)
Wings (1927)
Good stuff Allaby! I don't log my movies so even the ones I've seen help because if I can't remember them they ain't making my ballot.

Thief 03-09-23 08:36 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
Ok, here we go...

Twelve O'Clock High (1949) - World War II
From Here to Eternity (1953) - World War II
Run Silent, Run Deep (1958) - World War II
Defiance (2008) - World War II
Anthropoid (2016) - World War II
The 12th Man (2017) - World War II

The Siege of Jadotville (2016) - Congo Crisis
'71 (2014) - The Troubles
Sometimes in April (2005) - Rwandan Civil War
Three Kings (1999) - Gulf War

seanc 03-09-23 08:46 PM

Seen Human Condition yet?

Also Shame?

Corax 03-09-23 08:54 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
Das Booty
Bridge over the River Kwai
Bridge over the River Super Kawaii
Saving Private Someone or other: AKA Save Matt Damon Volume 1.
The Duellists

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Thief (Post 2377009)
Ok, here we go...

Twelve O'Clock High (1949) - World War II
From Here to Eternity (1953) - World War II
Run Silent, Run Deep (1958) - World War II
Defiance (2008) - World War II
Anthropoid (2016) - World War II
The 12th Man (2017) - World War II

The Siege of Jadotville (2016) - Congo Crisis
'71 (2014) - The Troubles
Sometimes in April (2005) - Rwandan Civil War
Three Kings (1999) - Gulf War
These three are locks for my ballot
Twelve O'Clock High (1949) - World War II
From Here to Eternity (1953) - World War II
Run Silent, Run Deep (1958) - World War II

I seen Three Kings but like a quarter of a century ago:eek: But I haven't seen the others, I'll check them out, thanks.

"The Troubles"? do I dare ask what that means:cool:

GulfportDoc 03-09-23 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377002)
I'm looking for some great war movie recommendations. If I like them enough they will make my ballot. If it's on your ballot and mine, then the movie has a better chance of making the final countdown!

I'm planning on watching a boat load of war movies in prep for the countdown. When I watch one I'll post my thoughts so you can see what I thought of it. So spam bombs away...

Hit me up with some good war films!

I didn't know that there is to be a war movie countdown.

Perhaps not in the true spirit of war movies that you're looking for, but these two offer a humorous or satirical view during war:

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
(1964).

M*A*S*H
(1970)

You've likely seen them, but they're both riots!

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 2377011)
Seen Human Condition yet?

Also Shame?
No I haven't seen The Human Condition that's three separate movies?

I seen Shame in an HoF maybe you or Raul nommed it? Good movie and to date my favorite Bergman.

Originally Posted by GulfportDoc
I didn't know that there is to be a war movie countdown.

Perhaps not in the true spirit of war movies that you're looking for, but these two offer a humorous or satirical view during war:

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
(1964).

M*A*S*H
(1970)

You've likely seen them, but they're both riots!
Yup it's war at Mofo! I'd guess those might make the countdown too. I might check out M*A*S*H again it's been years.

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2377016)
Das Booty
Bridge over the River Kwai
Bridge over the River Super Kawaii
Saving Private Someone or other: AKA Save Matt Damon Volume 1.
The Duellists
Thanks, I never know when you're kidding or not:D I actually looked up Das Booty just on the off chance it was a parody film of Das Boot....

Das Boot probably will make my list and I'm sure it will make the countdown at least I think so. Bridge over the River Kwai one of my wife's favorite war movies, luckily she like likes war movies, so I'll probably rewatch it again. I just rewatched Saving Private Ryan that film gets kicked around a lot but it does the German army right. I can't stand movies where the enemy soldiers are morons who line up just to be mowed down for the cameras...Fury I'm looking at you!

SpelingError 03-09-23 09:10 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
Here are some of my favorites (excluded the ones I know you've already seen):

The Ascent
The Battle of Algiers
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Deer Hunter
Full Metal Jacket
The General
Kanal
Night and Fog
Pan's Labyrinth
Paths of Glory
The Thin Red Line
War and Peace

Also, I don't know how broad the definition of war movies will be for the countdown (i.e., whether movies like Casablanca are eligible or not), but if we're allowed to include non-combat war films, I coud share some further recommendations if you're interested.

Wyldesyde19 03-09-23 09:12 PM

I have the following on my watchlist for this:

Breaker Morant
49th Parallel
The Human Condition Trilogy
(treating these as separate films since they have been released in separate years)
Run Silent, Run Deep
‘71
Wings
War and Peace

I also suggest the following:

Zulu
The Dawns Here Are Quiet
Hamburger Hill
Twelve O’Clock High
The Battle of Algiers
Rome, Open City
In Which We Serve

Edit: forgot a few

Holden Pike 03-09-23 09:23 PM

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The Thin Red Line
Lawrence of Arabia
Rome, Open City
Come and See
Coming Home
Paths of Glory
Full Metal Jacket
The Battle of Algiers
The Killing Fields
The Big Red One
Letters from Iwo Jima
Catch-22
Stalag 17
The Steel Helmet
The Duellists
Ivan's Childhood
Waltz with Bashir
Joyeux Noël
Casualties of War
The Wind That Shakes the Barley
The Human Condition Trilogy
The Counterfeiters
A Hidden Life
MASH
The Ascent
Downfall
Bridge on the River Kwai
The Pianist
Apocalypse Now
Army of Shadows
Casablanca
Fires on the Plain
King of Hearts
Hamburger Hill
Glory
Biloxi Blues
Gunga Din
Das Boot
Hope & Glory
Sophie Scholl: The Final Days
The Best Years of Our Lives
The Great Escape
Kingdom of Heaven
A Very Long Engagement



Thief 03-09-23 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377017)
These three are locks for my ballot
Twelve O'Clock High (1949) - World War II
From Here to Eternity (1953) - World War II
Run Silent, Run Deep (1958) - World War II

I seen Three Kings but like a quarter of a century ago:eek: But I haven't seen the others, I'll check them out, thanks.

"The Troubles"? do I dare ask what that means:cool:
I'm a huge fan of Three Kings. Love the way it blends war grit with dark humor. It is probably a lock for *my* ballot.

Re: The Troubles, it refers to the period of 30-40 years from the 60s to the 90s where there was constant conflicts in Northern Ireland, mostly regarding to their status as either part of the UK or part of Ireland, but also with religious divisons between Protestants and Catholics, etc. (see also Belfast and In the Name of the Father)

Corax 03-09-23 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377022)
I actually looked up Das Booty just on the off chance it was a parody film of Das Boot....
Might want to clear your browser history after that search...

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2377024)
Here are some of my favorites (excluded the ones I know you've already seen):

The Ascent
The Battle of Algiers
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Deer Hunter
Full Metal Jacket
The General
Kanal
Night and Fog
Pan's Labyrinth
Paths of Glory
The Thin Red Line
War and Peace

Also, I don't know how broad the definition of war movies will be for the countdown (i.e., whether movies like Casablanca are eligible or not), but if we're allowed to include non-combat war films, I coud share some further recommendations if you're interested.
The Ascent (1977) I forgot about that, damn good film, I think it won an HoF. I've been meaning to see The Battle of Algiers and really need a rewatch of The Thin Red Line, War and Peace ( I assume that's the Russian War and Peace). Night and Fog was my nom in the last Short HoF, I won't be watching that again, too strong to see again but an important film.


Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2377025)
I have the following on my watchlist for this:

Breaker Morant
49th Parallel
The Human Condition Trilogy
(treating these as separate films since they have been released in separate years)
Run Silent, Run Deep
‘71
Wings
War and Peace

I also suggest the following:
Zulu
The Dawns Here Are Quiet
Hamburger Hill
Twelve O’Clock High
The Battle of Algiers
Rome, Open City
In Which We Serve

Edit: forgot a few
Right on, I keep running into Breaker Morant, I've never seen it, so that needs to be remedied. 49th Parallel a lock on my ballot. Just seen Hamburger Hill a few months ago when I was binge watching Vietnam war movies, I never did a rewatch of Full Metal Jacket I suppose I should. Zulu! Yes, love that film since I was a kid. Lots of good stuff from all of you guys.

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2377030)
Might want to clear your browser history after that search...
Ha, but no need I always use the default moderate safe search. Actually I searched on IMDB.

Jackie Daytona 03-09-23 09:36 PM

Master and Commander, the greatest Napoleonic War movie of all time!

Captain Steel 03-09-23 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2377016)
Bridge over the River Super Kawaii
:D

Captain Steel 03-09-23 09:43 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but...
The Longest Day (1962)

I'm a sucker for giant ensemble movies - and this one is a doozy with an international cast list of Who's Whose!

Citizen Rules 03-09-23 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona (Post 2377036)
Master and Commander, the greatest Napoleonic War movie of all time!
Oh yeah, another fav of mine, it might make my ballot which is already getting crowded:D

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2377039)
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but...
The Longest Day (1962)

I'm a sucker for giant ensemble movies - and this one is a doozy with an international cast list of Who's Whose!
I seen that for the first time when I watched all of John Wayne's films (sans the silent films). He has only a tiny bit role so if anyone is anti-Wayne it's safe to watch. I liked it as it was long enough to really give the feeling of the invasion force.

Captain Steel 03-09-23 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jackie Daytona (Post 2377036)
Master and Commander, the greatest Napoleonic War movie of all time!
You know you get an up-vote from me for that one! :)

gbgoodies 03-10-23 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by SpelingError (Post 2377024)
Also, I don't know how broad the definition of war movies will be for the countdown (i.e., whether movies like Casablanca are eligible or not), but if we're allowed to include non-combat war films, I could share some further recommendations if you're interested.

This is what I was thinking. I have a tentative watchlist, but I'm waiting to see the rule of eligibility before I start watching any war movies. (I'm still watching movies for the 2022 Awards thread anyway, so I'll start watching war movies when that thread is done.)

LAMb EELYAK 03-10-23 01:29 AM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
I put together a very rough list of movies I'm considering using only movies under the "war" genre on IMDb. Once we determine eligibility rules I'll likely look at some others.


The Best Years of Our Lives
Jojo Rabbit
Inglourious Basterds
Apocalypse Now
Conspiracy
1917
Paths of Glory
The Book Thief
Ran
Patton
The General
The Killing Fields
To Be or Not to Be
Grand Illusion
Wings
They Shall Not Grow Old
Edge of Tomorrow
Hacksaw Ridge
Bridge of Spies
Darkest Hour
The Caine Mutiny
The Great Escape
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Diary of Anne Frank
The Imitation Game
Casablanca
Mister Roberts
Lifeboat
Dunkirk
Eye in the Sky
Mulan
Shadow in the Cloud
The Man Who Killed Hitler and Then the Bigfoot
The Patriot
Lincoln
Father Goose
Little Women
The Longest Day
Behind Enemy Lines
Judgment at Nuremberg
The Guns of Navarone
The Great Dictator
Wonder Woman


... you did say spam.



And a few I still need to watch or rewatch:


Australia
Catch-22
Crimson Tide
Glory
Shoah
To Have and Have Not
Twelve O'Clock High

John Dumbear 03-10-23 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by GulfportDoc (Post 2377019)
I didn't know that there is to be a war movie countdown.

Perhaps not in the true spirit of war movies that you're looking for, but these two offer a humorous or satirical view during war:

Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
(1964).

M*A*S*H
(1970)

You've likely seen them, but they're both riots!
Along those same lines:

"The Dirty Dozen"
"Catch - 22"
"Water" (1985)
"Kelly's Hereos"
"Good Morning Vietnam"
"More American Graffiti"
"JoJo Rabbit"
"1941"
"Air America"
"The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming"
"Slaughterhouse - 5"
"How I Won the War"
"The Wackiest Ship in the Army"
"Block - Heads"

John W Constantine 03-10-23 02:12 AM

Guess it's time to finally watch The Human Condition

John-Connor 03-10-23 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377002)
Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!
War movies needed now!
Here are my recs, sorted by releasedate from old to new.






John-Connor 03-10-23 04:18 AM

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John-Connor 03-10-23 04:19 AM

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ScarletLion 03-10-23 05:42 AM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
No Man's Land:

https://letterboxd.com/film/no-mans-land-2001/


Land of Mine:

https://letterboxd.com/film/land-of-mine/

John-Connor 03-10-23 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2377016)
Das Booty
https://media.giphy.com/media/Q7ozWV...rvPW/giphy.gif

edarsenal 03-10-23 10:13 AM

Can't remember if you've seen it but Howard Hughes' Hell's Angels (1930) is pretty amazing and I'll be checking out Wings (1927) which I've been meaning to see.

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2377125)
Can't remember if you've seen it but Howard Hughes' Hell's Angels (1930) is pretty amazing and I'll be checking out Wings (1927) which I've been meaning to see.
I've seen Hell's Angels but it was so long ago that I might as well say I didn't see it. Will rewatch that one. Wings was my nom in the 1st Silent HoF, it was one of the first films I watched back when I was getting into movies.

Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2377107)
Two more really solid war films that I seen but didn't recall their titles.

John Dumbear 03-10-23 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by edarsenal (Post 2377125)
Can't remember if you've seen it but Howard Hughes' Hell's Angels (1930) is pretty amazing and I'll be checking out Wings (1927) which I've been meaning to see.
If I've seen "The Aviator", does that mean I've seen "Hell's Angels"? Let me go find my calipers...

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 11:43 AM

@John-Connor thanks for all the war recs! You wouldn't happen to have them in text form would you? I'm keeping a list of all the recs I get here in a text file.

John-Connor 03-10-23 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377151)
@John-Connor thanks for all the war recs! You wouldn't happen to have them in text form would you? I'm keeping a list of all the recs I get here in a text file.
The General
All Quiet on the Western Front
Grand Illusion
Gone with the Wind
Casablanca
The Cruel Sea
The Caine Mutiny
A Man Escaped
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Cranes Are Flying
Paths of Glory
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Spartacus
The Human Condition I: No Greater Love
The Human Condition II: Road to Eternity
The Human Condition III: A Soldier's Prayer
Judgment at Nuremberg
The Longest Day
Lawrence of Arabia
The Great Escape
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
Fail Safe
The Train
The Hill
War and Peace
The Bedford Incident
Doctor Zhivago
The Battle of Algiers
The Dirty Dozen
Where Eagles Dare
Army of Shadows
Patton
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Waterloo
Barry Lyndon
A Bridge Too Far
Soldier of Orange
The Deer Hunter
Apocalypse Now
Kagemusha
Breaker Morant
Lion of the Desert
Escape to Victory
Gallipoli
Das Boot
First Blood
A Soldier's Story
Ran
Come and See
The Assault
When the Wind Blows
Platoon
Gardens of Stone
Full Metal Jacket
Empire of the Sun
Good Morning, Vietnam
Casualties of War
Glory
Born on the Fourth of July
The Hunt for Red October
The Last of the Mohicans
Gettysburg
Schindler's List
Underground
Crimson Tide
Braveheart
Saving Private Ryan
The Thin Red Line
Three Kings
U-571
Joint Security Area
Enemy at the Gates
Conspiracy
Black Hawk Down
We Were Soldiers
The Pianist
Windtalkers
K-19: The Widowmaker
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Hotel Rwanda
Downfall
Kingdom of Heaven
The Wind That Shakes the Barley
Pan's Labyrinth
Black Book
Letters from Iwo Jima
Mongol: The Rise of Genghis Khan
Waltz with Bashir
Johnny Mad Dog
Che: Part One
Che: Part Two
Red Cliff
Tropic Thunder
Winter in Wartime
Valkyrie
Red Cliff Part II
Inglourious Basterds
Dear John
The Way Back
War Horse
The Admiral: Roaring Currents
The Imitation Game
Beasts of No Nation
Anthropoid
Hacksaw Ridge
Allied
Dunkirk
Cold War
1917
All Quiet on the Western Front

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 03:31 PM

Thanks John-Connor! That's quiet a nice list and gives me a lot of war films to watch before the countdown deadline. Seen some of course, but a lot I haven't seen and they look good.

These are high contenders for my ballot:All Quiet on the Western Front

All Quiet on the Western Front
Casablanca
The Cruel Sea
The Caine Mutiny
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Cranes Are Flying
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Judgment at Nuremberg
The Longest Day
The Train
Patton
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Gallipoli
Das Boot
Platoon
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan
The Thin Red Line
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Downfall



Diehl40 03-10-23 03:37 PM


Do you know where you can stream "Underground"

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Diehl40 (Post 2377207)
Do you know where you can stream "Underground"
Underground (1995) can be streamed on Amazon prime.

John-Connor 03-10-23 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377206)
Thanks John-Connor! That's quiet a nice list and gives me a lot of war films to watch before the countdown deadline. Seen some of course, but a lot I haven't seen and they look good.

These are high contenders for my ballot:
All Quiet on the Western Front
Casablanca
The Cruel Sea
The Caine Mutiny
The Bridge on the River Kwai
The Cranes Are Flying
The Enemy Below
Run Silent, Run Deep
Judgment at Nuremberg
The Longest Day
The Train
Patton
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Gallipoli
Das Boot
Platoon
Schindler's List
Saving Private Ryan
The Thin Red Line
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
Downfall


^ Nice selection CR, still early to say of course but it looks like we'll have about 10-12 titles in common on our ballots.

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by John-Connor (Post 2377218)
^ Nice selection CR, still early to say of course but it looks like we'll have about 10-12 titles in common on our ballots.
There was a lot of promising war movies on your list that I haven't seen...yet...so who knows they too might get added to my ballot.

Little Ash 03-10-23 05:06 PM

I can't say for sure, but I think I'm the first to say
The Red and the White

Frightened Inmate No. 2 03-10-23 05:10 PM

some good ones that i wouldn’t want to go overlooked:

flight command (frank borzage, 1940)
the long voyage home (john ford, 1940)
mister roberts (john ford, 1955)
bitter victory (nicholas ray, 1956)
the americanization of emily (arthur hiller, 1964)
where eagles dare (brian g. hutton, 1968)
devils on the doorstep (wen jiang, 2000)
eye in the sky (gavin hood, 2015)
quo vadis, aida? (jasmila zbani, 2021)

Little Ash 03-10-23 05:15 PM

Continuing on from The Red and The White
Ivan's Childhood
Diamonds of the Night
The Round-Up
Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence

I will echo
Come and See
Paths of Glory
The Human Condition (I'm only part-way in, but it's good)
Army of Shadows
A Man Escaped
The Thin Red Line
All Quiet on the Western Front (1930)
Full Metal Jacket
The Third Part of the Night


If people are going Holocaust documentaries, then Shoah is the big one, but I'd like to also suggest (blind suggestion), there's also The Sorrow and the Pity and Hôtel Terminus (I haven't seen these and my knowledge of their contents other than categorization is nil).


I'm sure some more will eventually come to me.

John Dumbear 03-10-23 05:33 PM

Do films like "Threads", "The Day After", "Testament" count?

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by John Dumbear (Post 2377230)
Do films like "Threads", "The Day After", "Testament" count?
??? Don't know. It's up to the host KeyserCorleone, hopefully he gets the preliminary thread up soon.

SpelingError 03-10-23 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2377222)
I can't say for sure, but I think I'm the first to say
The Red and the White
Not sure it'll make my ballot, but that one's really good and underseen.

crumbsroom 03-10-23 06:38 PM

Steel Helmet
The Big Red One
Fixed Bayonets

crumbsroom 03-10-23 06:39 PM

Combat Shock (deals with the after effects of war...so Tromas equivalent of The Deer Hunter)

Wyldesyde19 03-10-23 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by crumbsroom (Post 2377243)
Steel Helmet
The Big Red One
Fixed Bayonets
3 that I need to see yet.

Has anyone seen The Dogs of War from 1980? Directed by John Irvin, who later directed Hamburger Hill, as well. Stars Christopher Walken and Tom Berenger.

Holden Pike 03-10-23 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2377251)
Has anyone seen The Dogs of War from 1980? Directed by John Irvin, who later directed Hamburger Hill, as well. Stars Christopher Walken and Tom Berenger.
Not very good. And for the record Walken and his compatriots are mercenaries, not soldiers. Has a couple good action setpieces for its time, but the ending really just peters out.

Great poster, though.


Wyldesyde19 03-10-23 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Holden Pike (Post 2377257)
Not very good. And for the record Walken and his compatriots are mercenaries, not soldiers. Has a couple good action setpiecesfor its time, but the ending really just peters out.

Great poster, though.

I hadn’t seen it myself yet, and have it saved on Tubi. I’ll watch it and see if it has anything to do with an actual war. Thank you

cricket 03-10-23 09:35 PM

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cricket 03-10-23 09:50 PM

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cricket 03-10-23 09:57 PM

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Citizen Rules 03-10-23 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377273)
There's one I want to watch!

Wyldesyde19 03-10-23 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377272)
There was a 2015 remake of this as well, directed by Shinya Tsukamoto.

cricket 03-10-23 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377274)
There's one I want to watch!
It's on the docs list. I think it was my #1 for that countdown.

cricket 03-10-23 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19 (Post 2377275)
There was a 2015 remake of this as well, directed by Shinya Tsukamoto.
How was it?

Wyldesyde19 03-10-23 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377277)
How was it?
I haven’t seen the remake yet. I just know if it’s existence. It’ll be on my watchlist, however

Citizen Rules 03-10-23 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377276)
It's on the docs list. I think it was my #1 for that countdown.
Oh! Even better. I'm getting that doc right now.

thracian dawg 03-11-23 04:01 PM

A few suggestions that haven’t been (?) mentioned yet:

Battleship Potemkin (1925)
Went the day well? (1942)
Sands of Iwo Jima (1949)
Ballad of a Soldier (1959)
Le Petit Soldat (1960)
Taxi for Tobruk (1961)
Von Ryan’s Express (1965)
The Sand Pebbles (1966)
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1967)
In the Year of the Pig 1968)
Under the Flag of the Rising Sun (1971)
Baby blue Marine (1976)
Cross of Iron (1977)
Salvador (1986)
Black Rain (1986)
Life and nothing but (1989)
The Last of the Mohicans (1992)
Before the Rain (1996)
Little Dieter needs to fly (1997)
The Officers' Ward (2001)
Bloody Sunday (2002)
The Fog of War (2003)
Brødre (2004)
Tae Guk Gi: The Brotherhood of War (2004)
Atonement (2007)
Female Agents (2008)
Brothers (2009)
Incendies (2010)
From up on Poppy Hill (2011)
Lore (2012)
Timbuktu (2014)
Journey’s End (2017)

cricket 03-11-23 04:20 PM

So do you guys consider Casablanca to be a war film? I don't know if I can bring myself to see it that way.

seanc 03-11-23 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377463)
So do you guys consider Casablanca to be a war film? I don't know if I can bring myself to see it that way.
I am on the fence about Hiroshima Mon Amour. You have any thoughts?

cricket 03-11-23 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 2377464)
I am on the fence about Hiroshima Mon Amour. You have any thoughts?
I thought about that one and I'm on the side of yes, but not an easy yes.

I won't be voting for Stripes or Failsafe, which I see much more as comedy and thriller, and there are others.

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377463)
So do you guys consider Casablanca to be a war film? I don't know if I can bring myself to see it that way.
A strong yes for me. It's not only tagged War at IMDB but it's all about the French Vichy government & the Nazi's puppet control of Casablanca during WWII.

It'll be interesting to see what the guidelines are for the countdown.

John Dumbear 03-11-23 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377468)

It'll be interesting to see what the guidelines are for the countdown.
This is key.

War is probably more diverse than the comedy countdown. Is gang war included ala "The Warriors" or "City of God". I mentioned earlier about " Testament" and the like. Also "Pan's Labyrinth" which covers a few genres.

cricket 03-11-23 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377468)
A strong yes for me. It's not only tagged War at IMDB but it's all about the French Vichy government & the Nazi's puppet control of Casablanca during WWII.

It'll be interesting to see what the guidelines are for the countdown.
I get the argument for it, but I have certain criteria when deciding for myself. If you were going to show Casablanca to someone for the first time, could you tell them going in that it was a war film without them feeling like they were misled? I don't think so. If you told them it was going to be a classic romantic drama, I don't think there's any way they'd say, hey you didn't tell me it was a war film. Of course it has something to do with war, but for me it's about a nightclub owner who runs into an old flame, and it just happens to be set during wartime. Just my pov though. Obviously many films touch multiple genres, but also obvious is that not every film with humor is a comedy. In the case of Casablanca, it's not a case where I feel strongly enough to really debate it though. If I did consider it a war film, it would be my #1.

cricket 03-11-23 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by John Dumbear (Post 2377471)
This is key.

War is probably more diverse than the comedy countdown. Is gang war included ala "The Warriors" or "City of God". I mentioned earlier about " Testament" and the like. Also "Pan's Labyrinth" which covers a few genres.
The way I see it, The Warriors and City of God are obvious nos. It's just that the term "gang war" exists, but they are no closer to being war films than The War of the Roses.

Pan's Labyrinth is a no for me but I get it. I personally see it as a fantasy that just happens to be set during war.

I haven't seen Testament but I'd say Threads is a definite yes.

Little Ash 03-11-23 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 2377464)
I am on the fence about Hiroshima Mon Amour. You have any thoughts?

I'm currently leaning, "no," for my own ballot due to genre categorization being a little too far for me, but there's also some threads there, that I could see the argument for.


It'll probably end up being dependent on if I can think up 25 other films I really like (also, I suspect I'd be going Night and Fog first. Arguably Muriel as well).

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377476)
I get the argument for it, but I have certain criteria when deciding for myself....
Of course as do I, that's why I said
A strong yes for me.
Though I do hope people will vote for it.

Little Ash 03-11-23 07:10 PM

I'm leaning yes, for genre-categorization, for Pan's Labyrinth and The Devil's Backbone (though I'd be more inclined for the latter), just because the Spanish Civil War seemed very central for a good chunk of the conflict in those movies.
I'd say it's akin to a war resistance movie, such as Army of Shadows, but not as much so, since there's other stuff going on.

Little Ash 03-11-23 07:13 PM

I mean things get a little muddled with, "life in occupied territory" and "prisoner of war" subgenres. The latter can sometime feel very similar to a prison break movie, which has nothing to do with war.
Doesn't mean I won't be considering some of them for my ballot.

cricket 03-11-23 07:18 PM

I'm on the fence with counting The Tin Drum, Three Kings, Crimson Tide, and Coming Home. Any opinions?

John-Connor 03-11-23 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thracian dawg (Post 2377459)
Von Ryan’s Express (1965)
Just watched it, thought it was pretty good, solid action sequences on the train. 👍
(70/100)


cricket 03-11-23 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377481)
Of course as do I, that's why I said Though I do hope people will vote for it.
Would you consider Raiders of the Lost Ark to be a war film? If not, what would you say is the difference between that and Casablanca counting?

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377487)
Would you consider Raiders of the Lost Ark to be a war film? If not, what would you say is the difference between that and Casablanca counting?
I wouldn't consider it a war film. For me it needs to be tagged War at IMDB. Of course up to the host.

cricket 03-11-23 07:25 PM

My early watchlist. I have ? after Soldier of Orange because I think I've already seen it. Rome, Open City I've seen but need to watch again. Think I may have seen Twelve O'clock High but need to check my records.

The Burmese Harp
Kelly's Heroes
Rome, Open City
Catch 22
Twelve O'clock High
Von Ryan's Express
The Duellists
Run Silent Run Deep
Kingdom of heaven
Sands of Iwo Jima
Kanal
Gallipoli
All Quiet on the Western Front (2022)
Master and Commander
Empire of the Sun
Wind that Shakes the Barley
Little Dieter Needs to Fly
Cold War
Imitation Game
Fury
Greatest Beer Run Ever
War Horse
Bridge too Far
Longest Day
Soldier of orange?

cricket 03-11-23 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377488)
I wouldn't consider it a war film. For me it needs to be tagged War at IMDB. Of course up to the host.
Being tagged at IMDb is a good way to make an official criteria for submitting a ballot, but I don't for a second believe that's any way to come to an actual conclusion. You wouldn't feel differently if Casablanca wasn't tagged and Raiders was I assume, so I'm just asking you personally why one is war and the other isn't.

A lot of what I'm asking you is simply to help make up my own mind on some films.

John-Connor 03-11-23 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377485)
Crimson Tide
A great example of when to break the military chain of command and relieve a higher ranking officer of his duties, definitely counting it as War.

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377492)
Being tagged at IMDb is a good way to make an official criteria for submitting a ballot, but I don't for a second believe that's any way to come to an actual conclusion. You wouldn't feel differently if Casablanca wasn't tagged and Raiders was I assume, so I'm just asking you personally why one is war and the other isn't.

A lot of what I'm asking you is simply to help make up my own mind on some films.
I guess I don't feel like going into why I feel one is and one isn't a war film. I can only say when I say 'one is and one isn't', I mean that's how I feel, not how others should feel. If a movie that I think is war isn't tag as such at IMDB I would be bummed (a little) but I would just pick another film for my ballot.

cricket 03-11-23 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by John-Connor (Post 2377495)
A great example of when to break the military chain of command and relieve a higher ranking officer of his duties, definitely counting it as War.
I always thought of it as action, but now I'm thinking how do I not count that if I count Das Boot?

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377492)
...A lot of what I'm asking you is simply to help make up my own mind on some films.
I'll try to explain more in detail later, maybe tonight. I do appreciate your interest in my thoughts on the subject. Right now I'm not feeling really hot (I'm tired and have a headache...probably have a headache because I'm tired).

cricket 03-11-23 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377496)
I guess I don't feel like going into why I feel one is and one isn't a war film. I can only say when I say 'one is and one isn't', I mean that's how I feel, not how others should feel. If a movie that I think is war isn't tag as such at IMDB I would be bummed (a little) but I would just pick another film for my ballot.
I don't think you could have said anything that I agree with more. I was hoping for more concrete reasoning, because the fact is that I go by the same method that you do, which is how does it strike me.

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 09:58 PM

Just some thoughts I had:

Originally Posted by seanc (Post 2377464)
I am on the fence about Hiroshima Mon Amour. You have any thoughts?
I verily recall that but I do seem to remember there were flashbacks to Hiroshima and the woman talked about hiding in a cellar in France during the Nazi occupation. Seems like enough of a war film to me.

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377466)
I won't be voting for Stripes or Failsafe, which I see much more as comedy and thriller, and there are others.
If I remember correctly Stripes is about people in the military but there's no war going on. I would say it was a war film if the same film had been a period piece set during the Vietnam war. Personally I don't think of comedies as war but yet M*A*S*H is a war film in my book. Dr Strangelove? Seems to me it was set during the cold war which isn't a war but a global political situation.

Originally Posted by John Dumbear (Post 2377471)
This is key.

War is probably more diverse than the comedy countdown. Is gang war included ala "The Warriors" or "City of God". I mentioned earlier about " Testament" and the like. Also "Pan's Labyrinth" which covers a few genres.
The Warriors, love that film but sure hope it's not included. Pan's Labyrinth, it was set during war time but for me the heavy fantasy elements renders it a non war film.

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377476)
I get the argument for it, but I have certain criteria when deciding for myself. If you were going to show Casablanca to someone for the first time, could you tell them going in that it was a war film without them feeling like they were misled? I don't think so. If you told them it was going to be a classic romantic drama, I don't think there's any way they'd say, hey you didn't tell me it was a war film. Of course it has something to do with war, but for me it's about a nightclub owner who runs into an old flame, and it just happens to be set during wartime. Just my pov though. Obviously many films touch multiple genres, but also obvious is that not every film with humor is a comedy. In the case of Casablanca, it's not a case where I feel strongly enough to really debate it though. If I did consider it a war film, it would be my #1.
The first two times I seen Casablanca I thought of it as a jaded-jilted bitter sweet romance story...but I watched it for the third time only a couple of days ago and I focused on how much the film was focused on war time messages and symbolism...from the way the Italian's were portrayed to the way the Vichy government was portrayed to the symbolism of the free French 'out singing' the Nazi's with the French national anthem, it was heavy on the war message.

I get that a lot of people expect a war film to contain battles, but not me. One of my top war films has no battle scenes at all: Twelve O'Clock High.

Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2377480)
I'm currently leaning, "no," for my own ballot due to genre categorization being a little too far for me, but there's also some threads there, that I could see the argument for.


It'll probably end up being dependent on if I can think up 25 other films I really like (also, I suspect I'd be going Night and Fog first. Arguably Muriel as well).
Night and Fog was my nomination in the last Short HoF (it won)...It's a war film according to my criteria but probably won't place on my ballot as it's not a film I 'love'. I do think it's a 5/5 film but not something I want to put on the TV and watch at any given time. I wonder how many people need to 'like' the war films they will choose to include them on their ballots?

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377485)
I'm on the fence with counting The Tin Drum, Three Kings, Crimson Tide, and Coming Home. Any opinions?
I can't remember Three Kinks but Coming Home seemed to be all about the aftermath of Vietnam so I would have no problem with that being a war film.

Captain Steel 03-11-23 10:09 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
I'd agree about Dr. Strangelove & Failsafe (which are almost the same basic movie, but one's serious and one's not).
There's no real war going on (except the Cold War) until the very end of each movie - and since they both deal with the ultimate cataclysm of nuclear war, there is no on-the-ground combat.

I'd also agree that any films dealing with gang warfare are a different genre than those that deal with political warfare - sure, it could be argued that one's just a microcosm of the other, but the difference is warring criminal groups and warring established sovereign nations. Some might argue those are the same basic thing as well... and they'd have a good point. But gang movies aren't considered war movies.

Maybe we'll see a gang movie countdown soon! ;)

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 10:10 PM

My thoughts on the movies @cricket listed and I've seen

Rome, Open City....Well worth watching
Twelve O'clock High....Might be my favorite war film.
Run Silent Run Deep....Loved this one
Kingdom of heaven....Liked it OK
Sands of Iwo Jima...One of Wayne's best war films.
Gallipoli...Liked it.
Master and Commander....Tops with me
Imitation Game....Didn't care for it.
Fury...Hated it
War Horse...Hated it
Bridge too Far....Really liked
Longest Day...Really liked

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2377520)
I'd agree about Dr. Strangelove & Failsafe (which are almost the same basic movie, but one's serious and one's not).
There's no real war going on (except the Cold War) until the very end of each movie - and since they both deal with the ultimate cataclysm of nuclear war, there is no on-the-ground combat.

I'd also agree that any films dealing with gang warfare are a different genre than those that deal with political warfare - sure, it could be argued that one's just a microcosm of the other, but the difference is warring criminals groups and warring established sovereign nations.

Maybe we'll see a gang movie countdown soon! ;)
Agreed and I will add to that: post nuclear apocalyptic films....unless the world was destroyed recently by a nuclear holocaust and no one told me!

Captain Steel 03-11-23 10:15 PM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
If there's ever a gang movie thread... I wonder which movie WSSlover would vote for? ;)

Citizen Rules 03-11-23 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2377523)
If there's ever a gang movie thread... I wonder which movie WSSlover would vote for? ;)
Ha!

gbgoodies 03-12-23 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377487)
Would you consider Raiders of the Lost Ark to be a war film? If not, what would you say is the difference between that and Casablanca counting?

I found this article about Raiders of the Lost Ark while researching war movies, and I thought it was interesting.


‘Indiana Jones’ theory suggests ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ was responsible for World War II

Could Indiana Jones have prevented World War II? Better yet, did the events of Raiders of the Lost Ark serve as the war’s catalyst? That’s the theory currently turning heads on Reddit.

After more than 40 years, Indiana Jones is still thrilling fans and making headlines. Although Harrison Ford is 80 years old, he’s cracking his iconic whip one last time for the upcoming Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.

With so much attention being placed on the franchise, naturally, fans are drawn back to the classic films that made Indiana Jones famous in the first place. At the top of that list is the original 1981 blockbuster, Raiders of the Lost Ark.

In Indy’s first adventure, he famously raced the Nazis to find the mythical Ark of the Covenant. Said to hold the two tablets inscribed with the Ten Commandments that God gave to Moses, the plot revolved around the hidden religious artifact and the supposed power held within. As part of the movie, Hitler sends forces to Egypt where a rival archaeologist, Belloq, believes he has discovered the Ark’s resting place.

Despite Indy’s best efforts (and punches), the Nazis get their hands on the Ark with plans to unseal it in front of the Führer himself. However, Belloq convinces the German officers to first open it on an island near Crete. Of course, things go awry, and the Nazis are melted and vaporized by vengeful angels in one of cinema’s most famous scenes.

What would have happened if the Ark had been taken back to Berlin? One Redditor is confident that there would not have been a WWII had that occurred. In fact, he blames Belloq for causing the war

[Raiders of the Lost Ark] Belloq indirectly caused WW2

When the Ark was captured, the original plan the Nazis had for opening it was to open it in Berlin with the implication of the entire German high command being present for it's opening. Belloq wasn't going to be invited to this opening on account of his Jewish faith and it was only opened on the island after convincing Dietrich.

If the Ark was opened as originally intended, the Germans probably wouldn't have invaded Poland as the top brass of the Nazi party would have been killed during the Ark opening.
It’s an interesting theory that has been pondered by viewers since 1981. Since apparently, God did not like anyone touching his things, it’s safe to say it would have been a similar outcome had the Ark been opened in Berlin, only with Hitler and his top officers all having their faces melted.

Historically, Germany invaded Poland in 1939, thus setting the stage for WWII, and Raiders takes place in 1936. With Hitler and the Nazi regime vaporized, we can assume no one else would have given the command to send forces into neighboring countries.

Little Ash 03-12-23 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 2377518)
Just some thoughts I had:

I verily recall that but I do seem to remember there were flashbacks to Hiroshima and the woman talked about hiding in a cellar in France during the Nazi occupation. Seems like enough of a war film to me.

Despite loving the film, I'd have to refresh my memory, but the flashbacks are very short, I believe, and I think she's hiding in the cellar after the war (after the immediate liberation of France).


WARNING: spoilers below

This was due to her being afraid of her fellow citizens for being considered a collaborator for having having a German officer as a lover.



I was thinking about it, and the bulk of the film might be more comparable to Wyler's The Best Year of Our Lives, which people consider a war film, I believe. How much of that rests specifically on it being soldiers re-adjusting to post-war life vs citizens (though the man was presumably in the Japanese army, I'd assume).

Citizen Rules 03-12-23 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Little Ash (Post 2377557)
Despite loving the film, I'd have to refresh my memory, but the flashbacks are very short, I believe, and I think she's hiding in the cellar after the war (after the immediate liberation of France).

WARNING: spoilers below

This was due to her being afraid of her fellow citizens for being considered a collaborator for having having a German officer as a lover.


I was thinking about it, and the bulk of the film might be more comparable to Wyler's The Best Year of Our Lives, which people consider a war film, I believe. How much of that rests specifically on it being soldiers re-adjusting to post-war life vs citizens (though the man was presumably in the Japanese army, I'd assume).
Thanks that jogged my memory about the woman in the cellar in Hiroshima Mon Amour. I looked up that movie and it's not tagged war so I won't include it on my ballot. However The Best Year of Our Lives, is tagged War and I feel it was enough about the aftermath of WWII service that it will make my ballot.

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cricket 03-12-23 08:48 PM

I saw Twelve O'Clock High in 2017 and gave it 3.5/5.

You probably already know this, but Waterloo Bridge is tagged as war.

jiraffejustin 03-12-23 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Corax (Post 2377016)
Das Booty
Bridge over the River Kwai
Bridge over the River Super Kawaii
Saving Private Someone or other: AKA Save Matt Damon Volume 1.
The Duellists
You forgot about Zuwu

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Citizen Rules 03-12-23 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 2377649)
I saw Twelve O'Clock High in 2017 and gave it 3.5/5.

You probably already know this, but Waterloo Bridge is tagged as war.
Thanks for recs, I hadn't heard of many of them. I'm starting to wonder if anyone is voting for the common war films, you know like Platoon:p

Glad you mentioned Waterloo Bridge because I might not have thought of that one. I don't log my movies and I can't remember them all. I'm going to add that to my list of potential ballot films.

Captain Steel 03-13-23 12:41 AM

Re: Spam my WAR Countdown ballot!...movie recommendations needed
 
You can most definitely expand the number of films to include as "war films" by loosening the definition or lessen them by tightening it (by say only including films with military combat).

I saw The Great Escape (1963) listed - I'd definitely call that a war film, but by the same account we'd have to also include Stalag 17 (1953) - another film that takes place entirely at a POW camp DURING WWII.

So, if POW camps are included then how about Japanese internment camps in the U.S. also DURING WWII? Would or should Come See the Paradise (1990) be included?

Or how about films that simply take place during a war where the war is a background setting yet directly effects the story? How about Mrs. Miniver (1942) - which tells the tale of how WWII effects a British family and includes such things as the blitz, the Dunkirk evacuation, sons going off to war, enemies on home soil (and even invading homes), and civilian casualties of the war on home soil?

gbgoodies 03-13-23 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Steel (Post 2377692)
Or how about films that simply take place during a war where the war is a background setting yet directly effects the story? How about Mrs. Miniver (1942) - which tells the tale of how WWII effects a British family and includes such things as the blitz, the Dunkirk evacuation, sons going off to war, enemies on home soil (and even invading homes), and civilian casualties of the war on home soil?

I haven't seen Mrs. Miniver in years, but TCM showed it a few days ago, and I DVRed it.


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