Collateral

Why couldn't anybody hear the commotion to the first murder? I mean from the time the body hit the car till they got him in the trunk quite some time had passed. No 911 calls, nothing. As a matter of fact, throughout the entire movie, the streets were unusually a little too quite don't you think?

Also, what happend to the other 3 punks after the first two stuck a gun in jamie fox's face? Why did they suddenly dissappear?
Why didn't tom cruise keep using his silencer? We know he had one. It would have kept the attention of the noise level down to a minimum.

Why did tom cruise go balistic in the club where there were so many witnesses. Did he go by some moral code of his as to finish the job no matter what? Why did he save jamie fox's life? A little mercy on his part perhaps? Did he actually start to like jamie fox? I don't think he needed him to drive the taxi so I ruled that out.

Why couldn't anybody hear the commotion to the first murder? I mean from the time the body hit the car till they got him in the trunk quite some time had passed. No 911 calls, nothing. As a matter of fact, throughout the entire movie, the streets were unusually a little too quite don't you think?

Also, what happend to the other 3 punks after the first two stuck a gun in jamie fox's face? Why did they suddenly dissappear?
Why didn't tom cruise keep using his silencer? We know he had one. It would have kept the attention of the noise level down to a minimum.

Why did tom cruise go balistic in the club where there were so many witnesses. Did he go by some moral code of his as to finish the job no matter what? Why did he save jamie fox's life? A little mercy on his part perhaps? Did he actually start to like jamie fox? I don't think he needed him to drive the taxi so I ruled that out.

Because as per his regular M.O., like the L.A. cop recognized from an earlier case he heard about in San Francisco, he needs the cabbie for the whole night, so he can kill him after the jobs are complete, make it look like a suicide, then pin all the murders on him. Would that plan really work on this particular job after the crowded club and meeting his mother? Probably not. But that's the "why" he kept him alive throughout the evening.

Because as per his regular M.O., like the L.A. cop recognized from an earlier case he heard about in San Francisco, he needs the cabbie for the whole night, so he can kill him after the jobs are complete, make it look like a suicide, then pin all the murders on him. Would that plan really work on this particular job after the crowded club and meeting his mother? Probably not. But that's the "why" he kept him alive throughout the evening.

Yeah, i understand that, but as you just said, why save him after all these eyewitnesses in the club?

Yeah, i understand that, but as you just said, why save him after all these eyewitnesses in the club?

First of all, eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, and in the massive confusion of the club with so many people shooting guns, he wouldn't be in too much danger of being picked out if it ever came to that. Not that he'd ever let himself be taken alive. But more importantly, most of Felix's men at that club were killed or arrested, meaning as far as Felix and his crew at large were concerned, Max is still who they know as Vincent. That could conceiveably be useful again later that evening. He had to keep the Max-as-decoy option open to himself. If for no other reason, than after finishing the job, he could kill Max and have Felix think, at least for a time, that "Vincent" was dead and need not be tracked down.

First of all, eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, and in the massive confusion of the club with so many people shooting guns, he wouldn't be in too much danger of being picked out if it ever came to that. Not that he'd ever let himself be taken alive. But more importantly, most of Felix's men at that club were killed or arrested, meaning as far as Felix and his crew at large were concerned, Max is still who they know as Vincent. That could conceiveably be useful again later that evening. He had to keep the Max-as-decoy option open to himself. If for no other reason, than after finishing the job, he could kill Max and have Felix think, at least for a time, that "Vincent" was dead and need not be tracked down.

First of all, eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, and in the massive confusion of the club with so many people shooting guns, he wouldn't be in too much danger of being picked out if it ever came to that. Not that he'd ever let himself be taken alive. But more importantly, most of Felix's men at that club were killed or arrested, meaning as far as Felix and his crew at large were concerned, Max is still who they know as Vincent. That could conceiveably be useful again later that evening. He had to keep the Max-as-decoy option open to himself. If for no other reason, than after finishing the job, he could kill Max and have Felix think, at least for a time, that "Vincent" was dead and need not be tracked down.

First of all, eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, and in the massive confusion of the club with so many people shooting guns, he wouldn't be in too much danger of being picked out if it ever came to that. Not that he'd ever let himself be taken alive. But more importantly, most of Felix's men at that club were killed or arrested, meaning as far as Felix and his crew at large were concerned, Max is still who they know as Vincent. That could conceiveably be useful again later that evening. He had to keep the Max-as-decoy option open to himself. If for no other reason, than after finishing the job, he could kill Max and have Felix think, at least for a time, that "Vincent" was dead and need not be tracked down.

Yeah, but where there are bodyguards, there has to be cameras. Especially in a suped up dance club like that. And him being a pro assassin would be very observant of that.
And you're buying time notion does make sense even if he could be identified on camera. I however still like to think vincent actually was beginning to like max.

Yeah, but where there are bodyguards, there has to be cameras. Especially in a suped up dance club like that. And him being a pro assassin would be very observant of that.
And you're buying time notion does make sense even if he could be identified on camera. I however still like to think vincent actually was beginning to like max.

Max wasn't his only way out of the club unless like holden said, he was thinking longterm and believed he could buy himself some time after he tries to pass the blame on him. I think even with the cops on one end trying to id the shooter on camera in the club, there would still be that tiny window of opportunity to escape while the cops on the other end believe they have the killer's body (max) in the cab after vincent shoots him. It's a stretch, but I can probably buy that reasoning.

Showtimes, you also say that vincent could have easily killed him at the end. When was this? Vincent was caught off guard by his sudden unexpected appearance and wasn't prepared to kill him. And on the subway, it sure looked to me like he was in the killing mood towards both max and the girl. He was desperate and the friendship that I believed was blossoming became irrelevant as vincent was overcome by his assassin like instincts and his will to complete his job at hand. Only when he realized that he would die did he settle back down and accept his fate thereby allowing himself to open up a bit to max.

Max wasn't his only way out of the club unless like holden said, he was thinking longterm and believed he could buy himself some time after he tries to pass the blame on him. I think even with the cops on one end trying to id the shooter on camera in the club, there would still be that tiny window of opportunity to escape while the cops on the other end believe they have the killer's body (max) in the cab after vincent shoots him. It's a stretch, but I can probably buy that reasoning.

Showtimes, you also say that vincent could have easily killed him at the end. When was this? Vincent was caught off guard by his sudden unexpected appearance and wasn't prepared to kill him. And on the subway, it sure looked to me like he was in the killing mood towards both max and the girl. He was desperate and the friendship that I believed was blossoming became irrelevant as vincent was overcome by his assassin like instincts and his will to complete his job at hand. Only when he realized that he would die did he settle back down and accept his fate thereby allowing himself to open up a bit to max.