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Violent video games have been shown in countless studies to have little to no effect on a person’s propensity for violence. But there is a risk, an unexamined one, that communities built around violent video games could be responsible for indoctrinating youth. It goes back to what @Sedai said in his 4 bullet points at the top of the last page.
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Violent video games have been shown in countless studies to have little to no effect on a person’s propensity for violence. But there is a risk, an unexamined one, that communities built around violent video games could be responsible for indoctrinating youth. It goes back to what @Sedai said in his 4 bullet points at the top of the last page.
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It's been years since I've been in college, but I remember in Criminology (one of my majors) that we went deeper and dissected the stats, and crime seemed to be concentrated in "the bad part of town" where you have mass shootings in random places, usually in middle-class areas like Parkland, etc.
Also, many gun deaths are specifically targeted people. I think 4/5 of deaths are people you know.. Could be gang members or your own family, whereas many mass shootings are simply places with a lot of people out, which makes it scarier. Before, if you "kept your nose clean" you'd be fine, but now I hardly ever hear of mass shootings in a ghetto.
Also, many gun deaths are specifically targeted people. I think 4/5 of deaths are people you know.. Could be gang members or your own family, whereas many mass shootings are simply places with a lot of people out, which makes it scarier. Before, if you "kept your nose clean" you'd be fine, but now I hardly ever hear of mass shootings in a ghetto.
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I think that’s kinda the point with mass shootings. It’s an attack against society and systems of power. So their targets are ones of everyday normalcy.
Speaking of crime, our city has had an uptick in organized crime and the number of shootings has risen exponentially. Plenty of local news reports about shoot outs and they are always gang related and usually on their own turf.
Speaking of crime, our city has had an uptick in organized crime and the number of shootings has risen exponentially. Plenty of local news reports about shoot outs and they are always gang related and usually on their own turf.
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If God forbid Kamala Harris ever became the Democratic nominee, what nickname could Donald Trump give her? We already have Pocahontas, Crazy Bernie, and Sleepy Joe. Although I have a soft spot for Cameltoe Harris, I think Trump could risk getting labeled as sexist. Of course, he also has to watch out for the race angle. With her record that Tulsi Gabbard pointed out, I think Trump could go for Clink Clink Harris, and whenever he says it he could put his hands together simulating being handcuffed. It would look similar to someone singing along to The Village People.
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"Kamehameha-HA-rris!!"
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Maybe a lil too nerdy for the average Trump crowd to grab onto tho. Hm.
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Maybe a lil too nerdy for the average Trump crowd to grab onto tho. Hm.
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asked if she had ever smoked. "I have. And I inhaled, I did inhale. It was a long time ago, but yes," the California Democrat replied.
Realizing the admission might "break news," Harris explained that she smoked a joint in college while listening to Snoop Dogg and Tupac Shakur. However, as someone pointed out on Twitter, Harris graduated Howard University in 1986 and UC Hastings College of the Law in 1989—years before Snoop or Tupac released their debut studio albums.
I think she must gave been doing molly when she said this.
KaMolly Harris.
Realizing the admission might "break news," Harris explained that she smoked a joint in college while listening to Snoop Dogg and Tupac Shakur. However, as someone pointed out on Twitter, Harris graduated Howard University in 1986 and UC Hastings College of the Law in 1989—years before Snoop or Tupac released their debut studio albums.
I think she must gave been doing molly when she said this.
KaMolly Harris.
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He's also the guy who wants to pull every video game off every shelf in the country,
because he believes that the video games diminish the intelligence of our youth.
Come on, Dick. It's the only education we got.
Moral is, DON'T BE A DICK, DICK!
because he believes that the video games diminish the intelligence of our youth.
Come on, Dick. It's the only education we got.
Moral is, DON'T BE A DICK, DICK!
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there's where we divert opinions. i don't believe that's possible
1) If the truth were not obtainable, you couldn't reasonably express so many confident opinions about what's true.
2) If the truth were not obtainable, there'd be no reason to argue about what's true.
It can't be that we get all circumspect about the truth after someone starts posting facts that aren't aligning with our worldview.
it looks ridiculous, but really depends the angle your looking from
you keep talking about guns and the most important thing i saw in that meme was health care,
i couldn't care less if your killing yourselves, i mean, i care, but not to that extent,
i still don't agree with guns, i don't believe everyone/anyone should possess one, it's an opinion
i mean, when i see people glorifying america and there democracy and there are SO many problems
it amuses me and makes me angry at the same time,
amuses me when i see who actually said it, some patriotic guy that voted for trump because he insultes him without he even realize and makes me angry when is just some rhetorical gownsman with the same ambition and hypocrisy the president he decided to vote
i couldn't care less if your killing yourselves, i mean, i care, but not to that extent,
i still don't agree with guns, i don't believe everyone/anyone should possess one, it's an opinion
i mean, when i see people glorifying america and there democracy and there are SO many problems
it amuses me and makes me angry at the same time,
amuses me when i see who actually said it, some patriotic guy that voted for trump because he insultes him without he even realize and makes me angry when is just some rhetorical gownsman with the same ambition and hypocrisy the president he decided to vote
And yet you seem to not only have opinions, but very strong ones.My point is that you argue that data is unreliable, yet still have strong opinions. You quote this point and then...just list a bunch more opinions? I don't get it.
like i said, i don't care about gun violence, i believe it would be worse if they were blades instead,
these are not independent, it was just a two minutes google search, and are from your newspapers,
new york times: nearly 40,000 people died from guns in u.s. last year, highest in 50 years
(didn't actually read the full article, might prove your point, or not)
these are not independent, it was just a two minutes google search, and are from your newspapers,
new york times: nearly 40,000 people died from guns in u.s. last year, highest in 50 years
(didn't actually read the full article, might prove your point, or not)
First, as Sedai already pointed out, this includes suicides. My number was homicides. So it's not the same thing, and it's a little disconcerting that you're not (apparently) looking at any of this all that closely even while you're in the middle of telling people they're wrong (which you seem to be admitting: "didn't actually read the full article, might prove your point").
Second: you tried to dismiss the numbers I posted because they were from the Washington Post, seemingly just because it's a large newspaper (I asked if you knew anything about the Post, and you didn't reply, and I'm going to assume the answer is "no"). So how can you respond by citing an even larger one? How is The Washington Post suspect, but The New York Times isn't?
You said you trust independent sources. I asked you for an example of one that showed gun homicides going up. This example doesn't fit your criteria for an independent source and doesn't show the thing you're suggesting, either.
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I don't suppose you've investigated this claim at all? Or understand that corporations don't pay taxes when they lose money, for example?
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I am skeptical. Statistics can be so easily manipulated. This is why I try to stay out of these things. You're already are kinda looking at me funny I bet. A few years back we used to talk data points about climate change. You demonstrated that its pretty easy to manipulate data. And that's true.
The problem I have with the Post and that recounting of facts is not so much their data but the way its portrayed. It may even be true that homicides are down. It doesn't really matter.
It also seems to very, very strongly suggest that people's perceptions of this issue are driven by media coverage more than facts. Kinda like terrorist acts, yeah? I assume you agree with the same idea there: that people are disproportionately scared of terrorist acts even though they're rare because they get a lot of coverage. There's obviously something similar happening with shootings.
Shootings are not going down tho are they? I know its hard to track because all of the shootings that don't get reported. Mass shootings are happening more and more frequently too, can we agree? 3 people were shot within a few blocks of me just this week alone. None of them died, so no stats. But I read a story like that and wonder how we can have mass shootings at all? Homicide is down right? So naturally gun violence is also going down right? It paints that picture but that's not what's really happening is it?
Mostly, I'm just trying to show people that anecdotal media coverage is not the way to gauge which things are getting worse, and which things are getting better, overall. The world is too big for that, but it's easy for even very smart people to lose sight of it when this is all they see on the news.
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I'd like to point out Joao has made some really good points in this thread. I think some of the disparaging remarks further illustrates our American arrogance.
The dunning kruger effect is particularly high in America when it comes to guns.
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two years ago this would be gold for me, it would be like christmas in august,
being in a discussion with american's about there polices and there country?- man, wow
you want the trued? america was always something i was/am very curious about,
so many different cultures in the same place, hollywood obviously helped a lot
but what i was/am curious about are the minorities, that's my real curiosity, not the american dream
my opinions are formulated on racism, gentrification, health care, wars of interest a culture of violence
it's like i lived there, my perspectives are there views because they're the people i'm curious about,
try to change there mind... never worked and neither will until you elect someone that thinks about them
but i empathize, i know we owe america for putting pressure on russia, china and middle east,
they're political correct all the time, but they're diabolic when we're talking about human rights
we owe america most of the technological advancements, and there view on a global world,
but we have to think what will come with all that and you, the creator, have to be open to criticism
being in a discussion with american's about there polices and there country?- man, wow
you want the trued? america was always something i was/am very curious about,
so many different cultures in the same place, hollywood obviously helped a lot
but what i was/am curious about are the minorities, that's my real curiosity, not the american dream
my opinions are formulated on racism, gentrification, health care, wars of interest a culture of violence
it's like i lived there, my perspectives are there views because they're the people i'm curious about,
try to change there mind... never worked and neither will until you elect someone that thinks about them
but i empathize, i know we owe america for putting pressure on russia, china and middle east,
they're political correct all the time, but they're diabolic when we're talking about human rights
we owe america most of the technological advancements, and there view on a global world,
but we have to think what will come with all that and you, the creator, have to be open to criticism
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I found this be fairly interesting...
Uniform Crime Report
In 2017, 403 people were killed by rifles. In contrast, 1,591 were killed by knives/cutting instruments, and 467 were killed by blunt instruments (clubs, hammers etc.)
Handguns clearly the weapon of choice here, with 7,032 deaths.
Uniform Crime Report
In 2017, 403 people were killed by rifles. In contrast, 1,591 were killed by knives/cutting instruments, and 467 were killed by blunt instruments (clubs, hammers etc.)
Handguns clearly the weapon of choice here, with 7,032 deaths.
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I found this be fairly interesting...
Uniform Crime Report
In 2017, 403 people were killed by rifles. In contrast, 1,591 were killed by knives/cutting instruments, and 467 were killed by blunt instruments (clubs, hammers etc.)
Handguns clearly the weapon of choice here, with 7,032 deaths.
Uniform Crime Report
In 2017, 403 people were killed by rifles. In contrast, 1,591 were killed by knives/cutting instruments, and 467 were killed by blunt instruments (clubs, hammers etc.)
Handguns clearly the weapon of choice here, with 7,032 deaths.
What is it Powered Water that you specifically want to say about guns in America?
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We are both the source of the problem and the solution, yet we do not see ourselves in this light...
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