Outlander: Starz series based on Gabaldon books

I'm purposely not rereading that particular book right now so that I have slightly hazier memories of what happens next. I knew the gist of both the jail scene and the priest scene but wasn't sure how Murtaugh being in this season was going to change any of that.

I know Bonnet's ultimate fate but won't say more.

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BTW, I'm pretty sure I know how they're going to end this season -- since I think dramatically (onscreen) it would make for an amazing finale scene for season 4. Next week I'll let you know if I'm right.

Oh, and I know what you mean about the music over that last scene. I think it was in The Elephant Man, but it's been in other spots too. Am watching that scene now and I keep thinking the others will spring to mind. Will update you if I remember.

Here's the song itself:
https://www.tunefind.com/show/outlander/season-4/76627

Wow, okay, sorry, but a little digging and I found a list of OTHER stuff that song has been used (overused?) in. I was right about Elephant Man, but look at all these others!
https://theironcupcake.wordpress.com...movies-and-tv/

This was posted in 2012, though, so anything after that wouldn't be on this list.

Started this and almost immediately regretted it. I'm on season 4 now and still don't know why I'm watching. I know the physical reason I'm watching (boyfriend is not present so watching something I know he wouldn't be interested in), but still...😅 At least it's calmed down with the rape but it's sort of like The Walking Dead with sticking to its formula. I take it American will be one more place they get into the same trouble.

Hmm. I guess that suggests it’s able to hold your interest thus far. I did give up on Walking Dead, scandalising my friend who recommended it and said it’s her favourite show. I obviously liked Shane (I hardly ever think like this, but the show was boring enough to me that this was a good excuse). I don’t have Outlander on my list for now — too much good stuff out there.

I think I'll be ff-ing through it all or it will remain on my "continue watching" list, just annoying me further. 😅

the number of times i've said to myself "holy shit, eat your heart out Game of Thrones". i'm just glad they started putting warnings in the later seasons. the number of times i had to shut it off because they just spring a random rape on the audience. like woah, woah, woah! pump the brakes ya'll. i know it was bad back then but ya'll don't gotta go to such lengths to prove it. seesh!

also, when the **** are we getting the rest of season 7?

EDIT: what is even worse was one time i feel asleep on the couch and woke up to, you guessed it, Jamie getting raped. i was not prepared to live in that new world.

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Yeah, I wasn't prepared and then it got so weird and truly truly uncomfortable to watch.


It's just so...same same in different countries. I often didn't like Claire and found her selfish. But I don't need to like a character to watch something. It's just too formulaic for me, after sitting through years of TWD. It doesn't touch GoT apart from being so rape happy (at least in the first season).

Yup, the number of times I fell asleep and woke up an episode later not knowing what happened. But I just kept watching and figured out the missing pieces.

LMAO that's exactly how I watched. Woke up to either rape or consensual sex.


So it carries on with Brianna time warping too? 😅

i just watch for the beards

Oh god, more rape. 😅😅😅 What's with Gabaldon and rape? The characters aren't really shown dealing with it either except for Jamie, and Claire was so selfish during that time. She seemed more concerned with sex than Jamie having enough time to deal with it in his own way.


I don't mind not really liking the main protagonist, though. I've watched things with no redeemable characters at all and loved it. 😅

I read the first book in the series and loved the premise but did not like how heavily it leaned on sexual violence. I made it about 2 episodes into the show and realized I didn't want to watch what I'd already not loved reading. (A shame, because it seems like the central cast was pretty great and it looked amazing----that car crash sequence!)

In the book, I sort of felt like all the sexual assault was a way of making the "good" relationships not seem as bad. Like, there's this whole part in the book where Claire doesn't want to have sex with Jaime and he's like, "Saying no isn't a choice." And she ends up being like "Okay, well, he won't rape me, but also I can never say no to him or he'll abandon me and I'll get murdered" . . . . sounds great! From a handful of things I've read here and there over the last few years, it seems like the show's gotten in a cycle of using it as an easy way to generate tension and drama, but without any real interest in how it impacts the characters.

It's kept me away from the show, which is a bummer. In all other respects it's the kind of thing I'd absolutely be in love with.