Originally Posted by Purandara88
No, I didn't.
ME:
Why is it good to exist?
YOU:
The will to survive is built in, an inherent part of that existence.
ME:
You're describing instinct, not logic or nobility.
YOU:
Will and desire are likewise inherent to being, and thus of inherent value
ME:
And why is everything "inherent to being" necessarily of value?
YOU:
Simple, that which is inherent to being is fundamental to existence itself.
After all this, you are still left with the baseless presupposition that existence is of value. Why? Because your instincts tell you it is. That is what is behind the curtain of your alleged "logic" and nobility: an instinct which, like any instinct, simply desires to be satiated. Your personal impulses do compromise a reasoned, rational argument, let alone justification for the eradication of billions of people.
Originally Posted by Purandara88
I pointed out that your concept of 'value' has no place in a purely material universe. The 'value' of instinct is purely mechanical - it preserves existence, which is why it is a part of existence in the first place.
Originally Posted by Purandara88
The internal logic of a closed system (like the universe) is always going to be 'circular' in the sense that it is ultimately self-referrential.