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I think I'm the only one here, who liked Dustin Hoffman's performance in The Graduate I saw in his character rather a rebel teenanger than a child. For instance, when he declared to his parents he was getting married, when the future fiancee didn't know about proposion and she even didn't like him. It made me laugh. Remainds me some of ideas oft thirteen years old daughters of my friend
And Elain who decided to marry hers mother former lover? You described it perfectly. I see her like a stubborn teenager who wants to rile parents. She stoped being so self-confident and so shure of the choice she made in the bus.
Despite all this, I do understand Benjamin's state of mind. As @Okay wrote
I felt very similar afrer my graduate and I have this feeleing from time to time, when I need to make some major decision.

I haven't seen The Bottle Rocket yet, but I really enjoy Wes Anderson movies

It's my fav principle of segregation of duties (I guess because I'm not a mother).
Moms are superheroes, aren't they?

I felt the same way about The Graduate. I've seen the movie before, (many years ago), but I was never a fan of it, so I rewatched it when it was nominated in this HoF. I thought maybe I missed something when I watched it way back when because I was too young to get it, but my feelings didn't change much this time.

I'm probably going to check out "Léon" this weekend, and if I'm lucky, I'll get to another film as well.

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"A film has to be a dialogue, not a monologue — a dialogue to provoke in the viewer his own thoughts, his own feelings. And if a film is a dialogue, then it’s a good film; if it’s not a dialogue, it’s a bad film."

- Michael "Gloomy Old Fart" Haneke

The Return (2003)

I thought this was pretty great. I loved the way it was filmed with longer scene takes, and camera shots that were held long enough to give time to reflect on the moments at hand. The editing was smooth and straight forward. I liked that this was a linear story, with a beginning, middle and end...and void of flashbacks and multiple story lines. That linear story telling allowed the film to focus intensely on the moment. The use of the journal as a narrative tool and the daily countdown (Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, etc) added to that focused intensity.

The cinematography was sublime and fit the story narrative to a tee. The camera was mostly quiet with wide angle views, with just enough creative shots such as the overhead straight down look on the father in the boat. Those few creative shots gave the film an art feeling, and briefly suspended time...giving the viewer a chance to reflect.

The two child actors were amazing in this. They said so much just with facial expressions and body language. They skillful conveyed the complex moods that they felt about being with a man, who was their father, and yet was a complete stranger with a mysterious past.

Even the post production mixing of the low key, low volume music score was brilliant...as the score is hardly audible and yet subconsciously imparts and emotional resonates to the watching experience. The de-saturation of the warm colors out of the final print, leaves an austere bluish green tint that looks as foreboding as the story-line was.

Impressive film.



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Nah, i think he's outstanding. I've just been keeping out of this since i'm not a member and can't be bothered going back and forth about this stuff, especially since i haven't seen it in a good while. I will say that from some of the complaints some of you seemed to expect an authentic, believable performance and i don't know why; it's supposed to be a dreamy, exaggerated world and Benjamin is supposed to be aloof, someone who doesn't fit into that world he's supposed to be weird.

Needlessly. It isn't probably only my opinion,that thanks Yours, Eds, Yams and gbs posts, this thread is more abundant and new memebers, as I, observe how HoFs work.
You are very welcome here, especially when You agree with me (I know, I know - bad joke).

I'm glad you liked "The Return" Citizen Rules, it's an extremely impressive film not only for its budget, and not only for it being the first feature film by the director, but more importantly for the final result.

As for Hoffman, I do realise that he is playing someone who's not completely realistic in a world that's somewhat exaggerated, but I still think he was overacting at certain points. Regardless, "The Graduate" is a pretty good movie overall.

Ive got a feeling that You enjoyed this movie because of the way it was made. Sometimes I watch a movie which impresses me with the form and I appreciate cinematography, music, lights etc. In case of The Return's plot it is so intense that I didn't pay attention to the form.

I agree I liked The Graduate, and it's proving to be a very topical movie, and in an Hof the movies that get people talking and thinking about that are the ones that make Hofs fun, so I hope @Stirchley isn't put off by our discussion of Dustin Hoffman. I was very glad to have watched the movie! And it's on the Mofo list, so I could finnally say I watched it

I liked the plot in The Return, it worked well as a mystery. It kept me wondering what was going to happen next.

How we all doing?

I was afraid of this movie cause this genre isn't in my type and I was wonder what interesting I will be able to write about it. I watched it and it turned out I was right. I know this film is old and it was made endless quantity of similar movies for 25 years, which I watched. And thats why Deep Cover isn't anything special IMO.
The plot is very involving, complicated (what I liked the most was moral dilemmas of main character) and so on, but showed in funny way from the perspective of today's viewer.
I have to confess I was laughing loud during watching the scene in which the boss of gangsters (who later turned out to be a cop) called for a duel David Jason. The striptizer who was dancing for them was taken by security guard and I was confident something terribly would happened next, like firefight or struggle, but the boss called Jason for a play in which they were trying to hit each other hands! (I don't know English name for this game. In Polish it calls The Play in the Paws). "Hide! They will be playing in the paws!" Hilarious. In the next scene Jason's wife looked at his lacerate hands with anguish and asked him to give up with all this stuff. Playing in the paws can be dangerous.

I guess this will have to wait

Made separately But that's mainly because I like to make a LOT of it, and the bird usually isn't big enough to hold it all. Also because I'm a little weirded out by the whole thing

Sorry you didn't like it, Ms. M. But i appreciate you watching.

I love Deep Cover!

And hey Virgin HOFmers. Was an incredibly busy Thanksgiving weekend for me, but looking to get back into our list tonight.

Planning to watch Bottle Rocket tonight.

I'm glad I watched it, anyway. I hope my review isn't to rough. I'm sure You have some reason to love it, so I'm looking forward to know Your opinion.

Ha! so I'm not the only person who is weirded out by stuffing inside a turkey I had a super Thanksgiving dinner, with outside stuffing too!

Cool, I'm very interested in your reaction to Bottle Rocket. Have you seen any other Wes Anderson films? If so, did you like them?

I hope to be watching your nom, Deep Cover very soon.

the reason I asked was there was a debate going on that afternoon at work. I grew up with it inside the bird, it IS called stuffing after all. And we always had the same issue, Sylvie, never enough to go around. Nowadays there is at least two types; one inside and some kind of variation recipe of stuffing or two. Both very good AND enough for leftovers YAY

chuckled at your review, @Mrs M of Deep Cover and I honestly can't remember if I had seen it or not when it first came out. Will have to watch and see.

Have anyone seen this short film?

This is my next choice. Bottle Rocket tonight