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It's a figure of speech, Brain Trust.
It's a derivative of this phrase.

Adj.1.up to my neck - deeply involved; "neck-deep in work"; "up to their necks in debt" neck-deep, up to her neck, up to his neck, up to our necks, up to their necks, up to your neck
involved - connected by participation or association or use; "we accomplished nothing, simply because of the large number of people involved"; "the problems involved"; "the involved muscles"; "I don't want to get involved"; "everyone involved in the bribery case has been identified"

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What if I would have used this phrase and included someones race, religion or sex?

Would that be acceptable?



If only that were true sir, if only...
Well, since neither of us personally know most of the heterosexuals on the planet, neither can say for sure how that majority feels on the subject. But I'm just an ol' East Texas boy who grew up in a segregated society back in the 1940s-1950s and went to a Baptist church, and if I can overcome my rasing and accept other races and lifestyles, then there's hope others will do so, too.

I am by nature and profession cynical about most things I read and hear, but I've found in my lifetime that most folks will do the right thing if given the opportunity. Besides, the way I look at it, for the great majority of homosexuals there were a couple of heterosexuals (to whatever degree) who came together to give that person a start. Now some may have had lousy parents just like some heterosexuals do, but most parents I've ever seen love their kids no matter what happens. There are people on death row who are still their mamma's little angel. And like I said, a lot--I would guess most--of you still have heterosexual friends and relatives who not only accept but hopefully support and nurture you.

Besides which, unlike a person of one color living in a community where the majority is of another color, gay people can "pass" among us heterosexuals. I have never been able to guess the religion or politics or sexual preferences of people passing by.

Yeah, there are ignorant and hateful people out there who attack people simply because of sexual preference. But when they do, heterosexuals join with other members of society to hunt them down and bring them to trial. Of course, I haven't walked in your shoes and don't know your frame of reference. Likely I don't know as many homosexuals as you do. But those I've known and know didn't seem nervous or fearful in the company of heterosexuals, any more than black or Hispanic or Mormons or Catholics do with us WASPs.



Oh I know there are places like that, but I think even in America they're still an exception to the rule...let alone the rest of the world.
I didn't notice before that you are apparently corresponding from Crotia. Closest I ever got to your neighborhood was a week in Romania, so I know nothing at all about your situation there. However, from what I read about all the ethnic wars over there some years ago, it didn't sound like anybody liked anyone very much. What a waste of lives.



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One thing they all seem to agree on is they hate their homos... Things are looking up though...I think...

Anywhaay, how 'bout them gays in films aye...
Sorry to sidetrack your thread.




Were the world mine - Tom Gustafson (2008)

A rather promising gay musical fantasy which falls apart in the second half. Deals with the usual woes of being an out adolescent queer. The musical bits were really great, perfectly capturing fantastical camp - from the make-up to the lighting and set design (as you can see from the screenshots) but for some reason when the fantasy spilled into real life it felt terribly underwritten and shoddy-acted. Still, in the sea of unimaginative and mediocre films which seem to overflow the American gay film market, this one feels like a breath of fresh air...






Nope, it ain't got nothin' on Hedwig...or Shortbus....except for that first dude on the right..*has been staring at his chest for the past 5 minutes*

Anyhooow, I've had a mini-gay fest, here are the other two films I've seen:



Fresa y chocolate - Tomás Gutiérrez Alea & Juan Carlos Tabío (1994)

This is a very unusual little gem from Cuba. The plot is a rather standard educational tale of gays befriending and converting staunch homophobes, but what's amazing is that such a film got made in the first place (with governmental backing no less, the only Cuban film to get it that year apparently) given how unabashedly critical it is of the Cuban communist regime and its treatment of homosexuality and freedom of expression in general. It's understandable that as the first Cuban gay-friendly film, it doesn't have any overt displays of homosexuality (no man-on man action, but plenty of hetero-sex scenes and nude women. I suppose they had to compensate a bit) so the main protagonist's sexuality needed to be shown through stereotypical gesticulations and mannerisms. But despite those minor gripes, there's not a single dull moment in the film. It's a great mix of social criticism, drama and comedy (provided by a charming fag-hag which seemed to have come straight out of an Almodovar film).




Antarctica - Yair Hochner (2008)

Another unlikely unusual film, this time from Israel. On paper, it doesn't differ much from your standard Eytan Fox film (for those not in the know, one of the most celebrated new Israeli directors, he's made a bunch of gay-themed films, the latest of which is The Bubble, not very dissimilar to Antarctica in that it follows a bunch of gays in Tel Aviv, the Israeli answer to New York), apart from a much better looking cast. But despite the odds, it keeps making unexpected turns. It's also much more sexually charged and explicit (there's even a semi-erect penis in there). The first 5 minutes or so we're bombarded with casual sex scenes with one of the protagonists (who for some reason almost disappears later on) bringing the focus on the more promiscuous side of Tel Aviv gay life. There are also loads of unspoken/unresolved issues which are only hinted at, which I really like...oh and just when I was about to complain that for a city that boasts the title of the queer capital of Asia, there was a noticeable lack of camp in Tel Aviv centered Israeli gay cinema, we are treated to a drag character a la Divine. Props for that...



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The Fluffer--it's about a cute young gay man who is just out of film school who gets a job with a porno movie company in order to be close to his favorite porn star. This movie is not porn. It is pretty light and amusing.


Puccini for Beginners--I haven't seen this yet, but it looks like fun. It is about a cute young lesbian opera buff/writer who gets involved romantically with an English professor and his lovely fiancee. No one knows that the other even knows her and she doesn't know that the couple even know each other. Whew!!


The Talented Mr. Ripley--one of my favorite Anthony Minghella movies. Excellent psychological thriller.



Rock Hudson's Home Movies--a documentary about the homosexual subtext in Rock Hudson's movies. Fun for film buffs.
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Tipping the Velvet



Fingersmith



Affinity




It's in the Water
Better Than Chocolate
Lianna
Clair of the Moon
Desert Hearts
Incredibly True Adventures of Two Girls In Love
Gray Matters
But I'm A Cheerleader
High Art
Boys Don't Cry
If These Walls Could Talk 2
Sonja
Lianna
The Children's Hour
Watermelon Woman
Round Trip
When Night is Falling
Loving Annabell
Running on Empty
Imagine Me & You
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I haven't seen Affinity yet because I was still too traumatised from reading the book to go through it all again when it was on tv What I've heard about it hasn't been all that complimentary though... what did you think?

Tipping the Velvet and Fingersmith were both very good adaptations, though, particularly Fingersmith (even if still not as brilliant as the books). I'm glad they were tv adaptations and not films, actually, because I just don't think they'd have worked so well if cut down to under 2 hours.



I haven't seen Affinity yet because I was still too traumatised from reading the book to go through it all again when it was on tv What I've heard about it hasn't been all that complimentary though... what did you think?

Tipping the Velvet and Fingersmith were both very good adaptations, though, particularly Fingersmith (even if still not as brilliant as the books). I'm glad they were tv adaptations and not films, actually, because I just don't think they'd have worked so well if cut down to under 2 hours.
I haven't read the books yet (I know, blasphemy), though I plan to. TTV is still my favorite, however this was part of my brief review of Affinity (having not been tainted by reading the book first):

"... this is quite an interesting, unique addition to her other awesome works, Tipping the Velvet (still my favorite) & Fingersmith. all three films, based on Waters novels, have a lot in common, including shocking twists and characters to fall in love with. at the same time, each story is so unique and outstanding on it’s own."

Perhaps I should have had the experience of the book first, however I actually liked the film. I have yet to hear from anyone else who liked it though. I thought it was a well-done production and there were some memorable shots, like the water scene in the end. I will agree the characters and plot are not as lovable as TTV and Fingersmith, and the ending was not like the others, but I think what I loved most was the concept of the "affinity" between those two women.



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I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
BFI London Lesbian and Gay Film Festival 17-31 March 2010

http://www.bfi.org.uk/llgff/news/356

For those few people that live in London, this might be of interest. 75 feature length films and documentaries, plus shorts and other events.

It launches with the world premiere of The Secret Diaries of Miss Anne Lister based on a true story about a 19th Century lesbian landowner and diarist, which looks really interesting.

I've heard good things of Children of God before. They're also showing Brotherhood about homosexual attraction within the far right movement, which won best film at the 2009 Rome film festival.



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I am a fan of Sarah Waters novels and liked Tipping the Velvet (it is the most erotic of her stories and it contains a backstage romance) and Affinity the best.

I have seen only bits and pieces of the TV shows based on her work but I wasn't happy with the casting in Tipping the Velvet. I didn't think the main character was androgynous enough to pass as a man. They need an actress who could be seen as attractive both as a woman and as a man.



Homophobic twit, I reckon.
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I saw this and asked them about it, and apparently it's some weird protest of the topic even being discussed. Good grief, even a homophobe shouldn't care if people are just discussing the topic. I don't have to like to stabbing people to talk about horror films.

Anyway, give me a day or two and I'll make sure it's all removed. It's definitely not an appropriate use of the rep system.