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I'm not reading the latest spoiler posts yet, haven't watched the last episode, but YES, it's worth watching.
it is a baby X-Files. I'm sorry, I couldn't, no matter how hard I tried, get into Lost. I think because it's a continual microcosm of "why people do what they do, and why those things are sometimes bad for other people, but good for the people that do them anyway" (if you get my drift).
X-files was far more complex and subtle, with more layers of unconscious meaning that you could peel back and contemplate for hours on end. Heroes is not nearly that complex - you know exactly what people are doing, and generally know why, or what urged them to do it. Even if you don't know right away you figure it out within the episode, and any far-reaching story line across episodes was far grander and multi-layered than what's happening in Heroes so far.
That being said, it is the NEW X-Files. the world is capable of making better, but we're just not getting that right now, so I am thrilled to have SOMETHING. This is like a B+, if X-Files is an A. Of course, the show turned into D material at the end, but I mean X-FIles at its best, it's genesis.
So yes, anyone who hasn't started it - watch the marathon. YOu may find yourself impatient with some people's milked storylines - I agree that the Nikki/Jessica and DL plotline is getting unnecessarily drawn out. The only passably interesting thread there is how those 3 tie into the future, and most specifically Micah. But the actress who plays the mom is pretty good at duality, and I tend to have a thing for watching women be tough and surprise people by whooping their butts. So of course I'm tickled Jessica is a violent bad@ss.
Re: Hiro - he's very much my favorite, as is the cheerleader, although I loathe high pitched voices in grown men, and cheerleaders.
i loathe Peter's character like you would not believe. I can NOT stand him. He is the weakest dipsh|t ever and I do not get why he is getting all that screentime. it's really irking me.
so's the professor's son's storyline. they're trying to use him as the storyteller but i am telling you it is NOT working for me. some of these turns of serendipity need to get less drawn out and milked so hard because it's just overkill and boring and makes me roll my eyes and huff until something actually interesting happens.
i don't understand why they can't draw everybody's else's scenes as tightly, and well-written as hiro's and the cheerleader's.
Chris - I beg to differ re: the true source of Hiro's name. To american audiences, yes, the obvious tie in to "hero" and the storyline of superhuman heros, and comic books, is meaningful and deliberate. However, there is a decided asian theme here that I am appreciating very much that may not be as visible and appreciated by general american audiences.
audience members into manga and anime, however, do and will appreciate this thread. japanese storytelling is playing a strong part in this story, mixing modern american comic book style (ie, spiderman and such) with scifi, with manga. japanese animation tends to include very cute, funny, goofy loveable interactions entangling with their violence, dark corners, and superhero skills.
because the show has chosen hiro as our main character, or at least our pivotal character through whose eyes we initially begin to see the greater story arc, we come to see him as representative of both us (new and full of wonder) and the transformation from human to hero for his peers in the story (he himself is changing, eager and accepting of what he is to come).
he is by far my favorite, in that he is clearly naive, open, eager, loving, seeking to idealize what it means to have his powers, and somewhere along the way becomes wise, wary, strong, and charismatic - and saves the world.
the cheerleader storyline is similar which is why I care about hers too, tho I hate cheerleaders. save the cheerleader, save the world - give me a break, can't the writers think of something more pithy and less cheesy, than that?
anyway, back to the japanese name tangent - the source is japanese, per the show creators (as shown below) and "ando" his sidekick, translates to "relief." he is, of course, his robin to hiro's bumbling, earnest batman:
Learn more about Hiro, who already has a fullbown Wikipedia page (clearly reflecting his popularity to the viewers): [link]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiro_Nakamura[/link]
it is a baby X-Files. I'm sorry, I couldn't, no matter how hard I tried, get into Lost. I think because it's a continual microcosm of "why people do what they do, and why those things are sometimes bad for other people, but good for the people that do them anyway" (if you get my drift).
X-files was far more complex and subtle, with more layers of unconscious meaning that you could peel back and contemplate for hours on end. Heroes is not nearly that complex - you know exactly what people are doing, and generally know why, or what urged them to do it. Even if you don't know right away you figure it out within the episode, and any far-reaching story line across episodes was far grander and multi-layered than what's happening in Heroes so far.
That being said, it is the NEW X-Files. the world is capable of making better, but we're just not getting that right now, so I am thrilled to have SOMETHING. This is like a B+, if X-Files is an A. Of course, the show turned into D material at the end, but I mean X-FIles at its best, it's genesis.
So yes, anyone who hasn't started it - watch the marathon. YOu may find yourself impatient with some people's milked storylines - I agree that the Nikki/Jessica and DL plotline is getting unnecessarily drawn out. The only passably interesting thread there is how those 3 tie into the future, and most specifically Micah. But the actress who plays the mom is pretty good at duality, and I tend to have a thing for watching women be tough and surprise people by whooping their butts. So of course I'm tickled Jessica is a violent bad@ss.
Re: Hiro - he's very much my favorite, as is the cheerleader, although I loathe high pitched voices in grown men, and cheerleaders.
i loathe Peter's character like you would not believe. I can NOT stand him. He is the weakest dipsh|t ever and I do not get why he is getting all that screentime. it's really irking me.
so's the professor's son's storyline. they're trying to use him as the storyteller but i am telling you it is NOT working for me. some of these turns of serendipity need to get less drawn out and milked so hard because it's just overkill and boring and makes me roll my eyes and huff until something actually interesting happens.
i don't understand why they can't draw everybody's else's scenes as tightly, and well-written as hiro's and the cheerleader's.
Chris - I beg to differ re: the true source of Hiro's name. To american audiences, yes, the obvious tie in to "hero" and the storyline of superhuman heros, and comic books, is meaningful and deliberate. However, there is a decided asian theme here that I am appreciating very much that may not be as visible and appreciated by general american audiences.
audience members into manga and anime, however, do and will appreciate this thread. japanese storytelling is playing a strong part in this story, mixing modern american comic book style (ie, spiderman and such) with scifi, with manga. japanese animation tends to include very cute, funny, goofy loveable interactions entangling with their violence, dark corners, and superhero skills.
because the show has chosen hiro as our main character, or at least our pivotal character through whose eyes we initially begin to see the greater story arc, we come to see him as representative of both us (new and full of wonder) and the transformation from human to hero for his peers in the story (he himself is changing, eager and accepting of what he is to come).
he is by far my favorite, in that he is clearly naive, open, eager, loving, seeking to idealize what it means to have his powers, and somewhere along the way becomes wise, wary, strong, and charismatic - and saves the world.
the cheerleader storyline is similar which is why I care about hers too, tho I hate cheerleaders. save the cheerleader, save the world - give me a break, can't the writers think of something more pithy and less cheesy, than that?
anyway, back to the japanese name tangent - the source is japanese, per the show creators (as shown below) and "ando" his sidekick, translates to "relief." he is, of course, his robin to hiro's bumbling, earnest batman:
According to the online comic on NBC.com, Hiro is named after Hiroshima, so that his family will always remember the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tim Kring has been quoted as saying, "It's no coincidence we named him Hiro… he truly is on a hero's quest".[1] To this end, his name is often used as a pun. His co-worker Ando once called him "Super-Hiro" in jest, which is actually a homonym to the Japanese word for superhero: スーパーヒーロー (, sūpāhīrō?), and the fifth episode's title is "Hiros".
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life without movies is like cereal without milk. possible, but disgusting. but not nearly as bad as cereal with water. don't lie. I know you've done it.
life without movies is like cereal without milk. possible, but disgusting. but not nearly as bad as cereal with water. don't lie. I know you've done it.
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