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The People's Republic of Clogher
Cave's got his moments for sure but his latest stuff hasn't really grabbed me (The Boatman's Call onwards), I hope he's not becoming a parody of himself.

His late '80s - early '90s stuff is wonderful though.

Yup, I'm born and bred in Belfast (Union rules dictate owning a vast number of Van Morrison albums, see above ) but don't live there now.
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I am having a nervous breakdance
Originally Posted by Tacitus
Cave's got his moments for sure but his latest stuff hasn't really grabbed me (The Boatman's Call onwards), I hope he's not becoming a parody of himself.

His late '80s - early '90s stuff is wonderful though.

Yup, I'm born and bred in Belfast (Union rules dictate owning a vast number of Van Morrison albums, see above ) but don't live there now.
I just have "The Boatman's Call", "Nocturna" (?) and a "Best of" with Cave. "Boatman" is fantastic, you don't think so? "Nocturna" wasn't so good though... Most songs on the compilation are great though.
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The novelist does not long to see the lion eat grass. He realizes that one and the same God created the wolf and the lamb, then smiled, "seeing that his work was good".

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They had temporarily escaped the factories, the warehouses, the slaughterhouses, the car washes - they'd be back in captivity the next day but
now they were out - they were wild with freedom. They weren't thinking about the slavery of poverty. Or the slavery of welfare and food stamps. The rest of us would be all right until the poor learned how to make atom bombs in their basements.



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The Boatman's Call is an album I own, but ain't listened to it in a while. One thing his later records have in their favour is that The Bad Seeds have developed into fantastic musicians but I prefer the 'Tender Prey, The Good Son, Let Love In' period myself.

The ex Mrs T and myself even followed him round Germany for a few gigs on the Henry's Dream tour. Check out the Live album from the period - Live Seeds (1993), They're in turn tender and furious, and bloomin' loud.



Tom Waits
Bob Dylan
George Harrison
Lennon/McCartney
Basically everyone Hondo said (the guy knows his stuff).


Also, in a very surrealist way, Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart) is very poetic.



Forgot to mention Hank Williams and Johnny Cash. (Also Page & Plant but they've been mentioned a few times already.)



I must become Caligari..!
Originally Posted by Piddzilla
Chuck D
Yeah, without a doubt, I would also put hte dudes from [b]De La Soul[b] up there aswell,

And as Garrett said, Johnny Cash,

Originally Posted by Frank Castle
Noel Gallagher

















... F*CK OFF!!!!!!!!!
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It's a god-awful small affair, To the girl with, the mousy hair, But her mummy is yelling "No", and her daddy has told her to go, But her friend is nowhere to be seen, Now she walks through her sunken dream, To the seat with the clearest view, And she's hooked to the silver screen, But the film is a saddening bore, For she's lived it ten times or more...



I must become Caligari..!
Frank if you think "Wonderwall" is a good song, go listen to some Kinks...


F*ck, The Kinks, I can't beilive i forgot to put the great Ray Davies, Porbably the best writer of all time...



Someone Save Us College Kids
Originally Posted by Hondo333
Frank if you think "Wonderwall" is a good song, go listen to some Kinks...


F*ck, The Kinks, I can't beilive i forgot to put the great Ray Davies, Porbably the best writer of all time...
Never said wonderwall was a great song. The kinks are really good to I have there first two records on vynal at my house.



Standing in the Sunlight, Laughing
Can't believe I forgot Dar Williams.
I love her lyrics.

"...way back where I come from, we never mean to bother
we don't like to make our passions other people's concern.
We walk in the world of safe people
and at night we walk into our houses and burn.

...but tonight I went running through the screen-door of discretion
for I woke up from a nightmare that I could not stand to see:
you were out wandering on the hills of Iowa
and you were not thinking of me."
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Neutral Milk Hotel
Just some lyrics from Oberst



I have a friend, he’s mostly made of pain
He wakes up, drives to work and straight back home again
He once cut one of my nightmares out of paper
I thought it was beautiful, I put it on a record cover
And I tried to tell him that he had a sense
Of color and composition so magnificent
And he said thank you, please, but your flattery
It is truly not becoming me
Your eyes are poor, you’re blind, you see
No beauty ever could have come from me
I’m a waste
Of breath, of space, of time

I knew a woman she was dignified and true
Her love for her man was one of her many virtues
Until one day she found out that he had lied
And decided the rest of her life from that point on would be a lie
She was grateful for everything that had happened
And she was anxious for all that would come next
But then she wept, what did you expect
In that big old house with the cars she kept
Such is life, she often said
With one day leading to the next
You get a little closer to your death
Which was fine with her, she never got upset
And with all the days she may have left
She would never clean another mess
Or fold his shirts, or look her best
She was free
To waste away alone

Last night my brother, he got drunk and drove
And this cop, he pulled him off to the side of the road
And he said officer, officer, you’ve got the wrong man
No, no, I’m a student of medicine, a son of a banker, you don’t understand
The cop said No one got hurt, you should be thankful
And your carelessness, it is something awful
And no I can’t just let you go
And though your father’s name is known
Your decisions now are yours alone
You’re nothing but a stepping stone on a path
To debt, to loss, to shame

The last few months I’ve been living with this couple
Yeah, you know the kind who buy everything in doubles
Yeah, they fit together like a puzzle
I love their love and I am thankful
That someone actually receives the prize that was promised
By all those fairy tales that drugged us
And still to me I’m sick, lonely
No laurel tree, just green envy
Will my number come up eventually
Like love’s some kind of lottery
Where you scratch and see what’s underneath
It’s sorry
Just one cherry
I’ll play again, get lucky

So now I hang out down by the train's depot
No, I don’t ride, I just sit and watch the people there
They remind me of wind-up cars in motion
They way they spin and turn and jockey for positions
And I wanna scream out that it all is nonsense
Their life’s one track and can’t they see it’s pointless?
But just then my knees give under me
My head feels weak and suddenly
It’s clear to see, it’s not them, but me
Who’s lost my self-identity
And I hide behind these books I read
While scribbling my poetry
Like art could save a wretch like me
With some ideal ideology
That no one could hope to achieve
And I'm never real, it's just a sketch of me
And everything I’ve made is trite and cheap and a waste
Of paint
Of tape
Of time

So I park my car down by the cathedral
Where the floodlights point up at the steeples
Choir practice is filling up with people
I hear the sound escaping as an echo
Sloping off the ceiling at an angle
When the voices blend they sound like angels
I hope there’s some room still in the middle
But when lift my voice up now to reach them
The range is too high way up in heaven
So I hold my tongue, forget the song
Tie my shoes, start walking off
And try to just keep moving on
With my broken heart and my absent god
And I have no faith but it’s all I want
To be loved
And believe
In my soul, in my soul
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" I see in your eyes, the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, whe we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. May and hour of wolves and shattered shields before the age of men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we Fight! For all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand men of the west!!"
-Aragorn: The Lord of the Rings the Return of the King



I must become Caligari..!
Originally Posted by Frank Castle
Never said wonderwall was a great song. The kinks are really good to I have there first two records on vynal at my house.
I was just using it as an example, Pretty much all of Oasis's music is just as pathetic...

And the first albums are fairly weak in tearms of song writing, (Especialy the first)...



Neutral Milk Hotel
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The People's Republic of Clogher
Originally Posted by Piddzilla
I think Definately Maybe is great!
I think Oasis were very much of their time, they gave British music the kick up the arse it needed 10 years ago (Shoegazing anyone?) but haven't done anything of note since that debut for me...



I am having a nervous breakdance
Originally Posted by Tacitus
I think Oasis were very much of their time, they gave British music the kick up the arse it needed 10 years ago (Shoegazing anyone?) but haven't done anything of note since that debut for me...
Hey, shoegazing had its charm!! I think it's coming back in style any day soon...

Oasis did one good album plus a couple of good songs. "Some Might Say" is brilliant, I think.. I never liked "Wonderwall".



I must become Caligari..!
... Anyone???,

The differance between them was originality, Blur had it while Oasis didn't. While Oasis may have shaken the British pop-music scene up they didn't realyy bring anything new to it, Just the same old British-Pop-Rock that the Beatles, The who and The Kinks perfected 20 odd years before... and they still didn't get anywhere near those bands...



I am having a nervous breakdance
I was a really big Blur fan up to "Parklife". It just became too "British" then... Too ironic. Too-C'mon-Lads-Let's-Sing-Along. But I still enjoy "Modern Life Is Rubbish" a lot.



The People's Republic of Clogher
Originally Posted by Hondo333
... Anyone???,

The differance between them was originality, Blur had it while Oasis didn't. While Oasis may have shaken the British pop-music scene up they didn't realyy bring anything new to it, Just the same old British-Pop-Rock that the Beatles, The who and The Kinks perfected 20 odd years before... and they still didn't get anywhere near those bands...
Don't get me wrong, Oasis were/are pub-rock. I think they were more Small Faces (if I was being uncharitable, Status Quo) than Kinks.

Blur were just a bit less obvious in the magpie department - Madness, The Kinks, XTC etc. I bought their first single, then nowt until the best-of came out a few years back. Still haven't listened to it all the way through...

And just to turn this thread into a Britpop nostalgia thing, neither of them were as good as the following:


The Fall


Suede


The Stone Roses

But thankfully better than these chancers:


The Soup Dragons