Who Will be Our Next President?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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Not at all, but yes, I would have preferred Bernie over all of them, and didn't like the collusion of the DNC, but if Bernie wasn't man enough to fight (after accepting being cheated in 2016, then he isn't the man for the job).. I would never support Pence or any other Republican, and never voted for one, and haven't voted since 2008 (despite working on campaigns). I'll explain it, and I won't attack anyone, so I hope this is cool.


When it comes to the important issues, Biden is more conservative. Biden supported every single war, Trump started none. One pushed NAFTA, one got rid of it. Biden wrote The Crime Bill, Trump wrote Criminal Justice Reform, Prison Reform, HBCU funding, etc.. Biden supported the repeal of Glass-Steagull, Telecommunications Act, The Patriot Act.


I'm a left-winger who hates political correctness, and believes identify politics is a right-winged trick to NOT talk about class, labor, and instead go on and on about social issues because they know you can't do anything about it. You can't legislate kindness and understanding.
To me, the biggest issue is war. The biggest moral cost, and the biggest financial cost. When Obama took us from two to seven wars, Democrats didn't say a thing, because they're chicken****, and the opposing side likes it (until something goes wrong). I know Fox is the most watched, but they are kind of anamoly. The other stations are Democrat (not liberal) with only one bias - financial. If/when Biden were to start proxy wars, sanctions, or actual wars (Iran, Venezuela, etc), the media won't pay attention to it, or water it down, and the millions of voters are influenced by this. Not everyone digs deep about what is happening like many of us.
Also, if Biden were to win, many people would go to sleep. With Trump, you have a kind of "check" on him. And he's been there for almost 4 years, and hasn't started any new war, and when he's tried to pull troops, both parties disabled him.
Tariffs were HATED by the Republicans, who thought the market could solve every problem. As soon as Trump imposed tariffs, suddenly they like them? His supporters certainly seem to. I'm sure some would prefer to stay silent to avoid being socially ostracized. It's the problem with every other group, which I think is the true enemy. Nothing wrong with alliances for certain issues, but I believe you trade your individuality when you join a group. As groups change, the people suddenly change? Now, Democrats hate tariffs? The two Democratic senators from Ohio were for them until Trump was for them.
Biden wrote The Crime Bill, Trump signed Criminal Justice Reform.. We know Biden's long right-winged record, especially when it comes to the important stuff. I can't stand Trump (even before he ran) for his greed, etc., but what differentiates him from someone like Biden or Clinton, is that they pretend to care for the entire world, etc.. Bull.

If Biden gets in, he'll taint the progress just by his name alone, alongside with FDR and JFK, thinking Biden's record is "the way", influencing younger or less educated people about politics.
I'm so glad good leftists don't spend too much time going after Republicans, because its not about "R" and/or "D", it's policy.. I read John Bolton's book, and he seems so scared that if Trump wins, he'll be really bad for "conservative Republicans", even going on to say Trump would do something "liberal stuff" for his own historical ego. Who cares! If the media were really "liberal", they could have bullied or use simple semantics into Medicare-4-All... Remember, during the GOP debate, Chris Wallace asked Trump about his constant support for single-payer. And Trump didn't shy away and said "It seems to work fine in Canada", so a great reporter would ask "So President Trump (kiss his butt, so what), you said single-payer worked fine, so when do you plan on signing a bill into law?"
I do want Trump to win, also, because despite my cynicism for the DNC, if they continue to lose with right-winged Corporate Democrats, they might pivot a tad.. In just 4 years, everyone running on the Democratic ticket pretend they were Bernie Sanders-lite. Platforms don't mean jack, but it might have enough influence to put this issue over the top and get it done, once and for all... And he'd be there for only 4 more years, and maybe in 2024, we could have a real progressive, or at least someone who isn't as far-right as Biden is.
For those who say it makes no difference, at least we'll have more entertainment from Trump than Biden, or Kamala's hypocritical laughter/disdain. Her record as a prosecutor should make every right-winger happy. She prosecuted black men for pot while she says (and probably lied) about doing it while listening to Snoopy Dog who didn't exist when she was in college. She's a phony, like Biden.. We all know Trump and knew him, and he doesn't apologize for it. The only guy Kamala didn't prosecute was Steve Mnuchin, who coincidentally (wink, wink) only gave one donation, which was to Kamala Harris. And who knows with Trump.. He won't have to pander, he doesn't owe the GOP anything (and has been going after RINOs), and did mention how single-payer seems to work fine when asked about it during the 1st GOP Debate when Wallace asked why he supported single-payer health care.
The media has been awful, and part of me wants them (and other deranged idiots who don't know jack about politics) to cry their guts out.

Twitter, Facebook, Google (and many others) censoring this Biden business dealing crack from the NY Post only makes me hate these people more... I spend way too much of my life discussing politics, and I want them to eat their words. I actually think more in the media wanted Trump to win because of ratings.

And entertainment. Even if the President is just a figurehead, I prefer to hear him say outlandish stuff, and just be a guy, a guy who reminds me of every New Yorker I know.. And he's more representative of the people. Biden keeps saying "This is not who we are" to which I can only say, "C'mon man!".


I like someone who is defiant even if he's full of it. He's more of a rebel than Biden. If Trump ran as a Democrat, all the people barking at him would be saying how amazing he is.

I'm stealing a quote from Mort Sahl, but I hate the Republicans for who they are, and I hate the Democrats for who they are not. All the complaining about Trump (never issues, usually personality) makes me reconsider. Not contrarian; just a rebel at heart. I will miss hearing him go after the mainstream media which is so fake, corrupt, and just chicken, using the currency of the moment, just like those Lincoln Log mercenaries.


I also think without the mail-in ballots, Trump would have won bigly. The Democrats obviously don't care about COVID.. Protesting for example, which I support always (regardless of who - it's better than apathy), but maybe not during a pandemic. And if you protest, you should have shouted for a stimulus check... or body-cams.. I don't believe it's organic at all. I saw so many groups try to co-opt their crap, and the minute they get a token, they go back to sleep and say "Ok, no more" as they reign in the drawbridge.

I applauded the "entertainers" who ripped W., but didn't say a word about Obama, and then found their fake testicles when Trump came in.. The NBA, Neil Young, etc etc..

You don't vote for someone and THEN wish they turn out alright - it hasn't happened in my lifetime. You use your vote (and as a bloc, since that's so chic) as leverage. If you keep voting for the evil of two lessers, why would they ever give you anything? Biden appealed to more of the GOP than progressives (if there really are any).. Lip service doesn't go far with me, and if AOC had any integrity, she would demand a "skinny" bill from Pelosi, but she wants to be a power-player I'm sure, but I liked her for about 10 minutes, along with Tlaib.. They eat their cake while everyone else starves, pretending Biden is going to save us.. Pelosi wouldn't impeach W. for lying us into multiple wars, but she impeached Trump over nothing, which I knew was baloney.. If he was an agent of Russia, why would she approve of all his budget increases?


And then for the Democrats to suddenly support the CIA and FBI? And W. Bush cronies? This is truly unbelievable. Because Trump made a few tweets? Schumer didn't even hide it as he told that Maddow "The CIA will screw you seven ways from Sunday" (or whatever that threat was). I didn't like Obama, but I didn't like the de-legitimacy (Kenya - give me a break) and so they doubled-down on Trump winning because of a few bots. Every time someone says "Russian", I ask if they changed their vote because of Russia - none.

Yes, she did well in this election.

35 to run for president. Must have lived here for 14 years & must be native-born.

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Thanks Matt! That's a lot to read, but I will read it and try to reply to some of it after I'm done with work. Just on a work break now.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Edit: website acting odd when I’m on my phone, only seeing half the threads...

Loved reading this and it says a whole lot of what I feel. You don't like Trump but you can put it aside for the greater good. We need much more of that.

As for Trump fighting this, I don't blame him. The dems have tried to overturn the last election since it finished by getting him out of office. They constantly lie about things he's said. The early voting and mail in voting could all be legit, but it's a real bad look. They came up with it for Biden's benefit and it's coming through. With what I've seen the last 4 years, I wouldn't put anything past the Democrats, media, or pollsters. It all smells to me.

Seems to me it’s the other way around. (Emphasis added)

Obviously this election is very tight. Who do people think would have won had the media been honest this entire time? For Trump, not constantly saying he called Mexicans rapists, fine people was referring to white supremacists, etc. On the other side, at least looking into the Biden family corruption story instead of covering it up, talking about Kamala putting all those black men in prison for non violent marijuana offenses while she was smoking marijuana, the fact that Kamala attacked Biden during the primary for his voting record on segregation and that she believed his accuser, Biden's relationship with Robert Byrd, racial/racist things he's said, etc. If the media, including social media, was honest and equal in their treatment of both parties, what would have happened? For me it's an easy answer and one of the things I'm most disgusted with.

What are you talking about? What about the racial stuff they've been lying about for the last four years? On 60 minutes Kamala said he called Mexicans rapists. A couple of days ago Biden said the same thing. Kamala said a couple of days ago he called the coronavirus a hoax. This has been a constant for the last four years. That's not OK.

I think she means that if you don't like lying, that's not gonna lead you to Trump, who's obviously done an incredible amount of it.

I have never been one to look to politicians for truth. That’s like looking to a burglar for security advice.

Sure I think all politicians lie, and I also think it's necessary sometimes. I certainly don't listen to Trump and take it as gospel. I just think it's another level when you start attacking someone's character by making things up.

Well yes the racism is an issue but if the Media and people like you were honest the bigger issue is what he's said and what he's done to people that don't support. He's the president of the United States not the president of those that voted for him. People have died during this pandemic because of his actions.




Y'know I keep hearing about the corruption but I haven't seen the specifics this is Bengazi all over again. If you have something concrete share...but you don't. And quite frankly too many of Trumps associates have gone to jail for specific crimes...bribery, child pornography, witness tampering etc.




I think you have certain logistical issues with that statement...she's a prosecutor she has a job to do...she was running against Biden and Reade came out...she's not going to defend her competition. With that said Reade was clearly a low rent scam artist which is more than we can say for all 26 of Trumps accusers.




The Byrd case is fascinating because Byrd did turn against the KKK(which was a member of for a year in 1942) y;know who else mourned Byrd...the NAACP


https://www.rttnews.com/1346815/naac...ator-byrd.aspx


For me it's really simple...I might die in the next few years because of Trumps presidency and Supreme Court

I’m gunna be bad for one second.

What do you call a politician with a soul? A fraud! 😅

The fix is in.

The fix began 4 years ago when radical Leftist Democrats, pretty much in unison, OPENLY and PROUDLY told us how they would do anything - ANYTHING - to get Trump out of the White House...

(And we all witnessed all they attempted - everything from hoaxes, to fake dossiers, to illegal FISA court manipulation, to spying, to slandering Supreme Court nominees with dubious accusations, questionable accusers, reading "parodies" into evidence, mislabeling photographs, fraudulently publishing misleading magazine covers, intimidating witnesses, throwing out due process, misquoting, taking statements out of context, intentionally false headlines - later retracted with none of the fanfare the were originally reported with, changing definitions of "bribery" and "extortion," to politicizing a pandemic, and a thousand other attempts to impugn and impeach).

The media will never be completely honest because they have a financial bias. It has a huge influence, otherwise campaigns wouldn't spend billions on advertising (I'd add social media, what they include, what they don't, and their double-standards). I'd stick to legal issues brought up.

-Ballots in garbage, etc..
-Poll watchers weren't able to see the ballot themselves. Were they postmarked in time? Were they signed?
-Videos passing collateral material
-3 x 5 posters at locations that say "Vote for (passing out flyers)
-People at the polls wearing Biden-Harris face-masks

I wish this was over, but I think it's more important to get it right instead of being expedient because Matt can't sleep. The next four years will only get worse in terms of division between people.

60 years later, even mainstream news talk about JFK winning because of the dead voters in Cook County. Do we want future generations to know this election was stolen? People are still angry over the 2000 election.

Not sure what you mean by the first part. As far as the pandemic, I'm sure he could have handled it better, so could have a lot of people. It's a global problem, and a problem the U.S. was particularly susceptible to regardless of who was in charge. The previous administration handled their pandemic just as poorly I would say. I don't like blaming people for deaths from a virus, but I'll be interested to see how many lives an early vaccine saves.

That's not the point. The point is that the media is covering it up.

There should be fair and equal coverage and criticism if the media is honest. So was Kamala lying when she said she believed Reade?

There's not many politicians relative to the population. It's my opinion there's no need or room for anyone who was in the Klan. Automatic disqualification.


You'll be fine.

The stuff like "Mexican rapists" from what I have seen is common on both sides, things taken out of context or changed slightly. Trump has made many many false quotes and made things up, like recently off the top of my head talking about Biden and the super predators, honorable discharge lie, and a whole host of policy stuff trying to portray Biden as a radical extremist - I know this is subjective but most of Trump's stuff seems to rely on false quotes.

The problem is with getting an honest, open or free media, is that what people mean by that is to achieve some sort of equality. How do you do that?

What Republicans seem to be proposing is a regulation of tech companies and media to force them to be equal and fair, something which is highly subjective.

My understanding of the free market and free speech is that these companies can say what they want (providing they don't break other laws) and then it's up to people whether they listen to it, or start an alternative platform, or so on. People are free to consume and listen to what they want. Your opinions of Trump and the media is very subjective and one I would personally disagree with, although you're entitled to it. That's why I oppose regulation of these tech companies. Any attempt to regulate removes freedoms, not increases them. You have the state telling them how they should manage their own private businesses/services. Freedom of speech/expression should not include the freedom to do what you want in the realm of someone else's privately controlled service you've agreed to use/consume. State intervention here for me is a scary thing, and starts to (ironically) go down the line of countries like China.

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Man I'd be so cool if the people voted Trump out with nothing shady and everyone was just decent about it.