Are men really that different from women?

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Originally Posted by Yoda
...Also true. Though I think many women encourage that myth. Most girls I've known talk about sex about as much as any man...but only when they're with other women. Outside of that context, they project a much more modest front.
Yeah, here's why: young men are raised with this weird notion that if they're not thinking about sex all the time, if they're not constantly chasing down one skirt after another, if they're not behaving like "dogs"... that there's something wrong with them. Which is ludicrous and cold-hearted, but it's the stereotype promoted by the media.

Oddly enough, it used to be the other way around, per this rabbi I heard on the radio once: prior to christian history, men were looking for long-term relationships and girls just wanted to have fun. That was his explanation for why the Old Testiment was so down on women's sexuality: they used to be a bunch of randy tarts.

There has to be a balance, so modern women wind up in the staid role of protecting chastity. It seems to me though, that that's starting to swing back the other way. The whole "emo" thing seems to have younger guys behaving more girly than they did when I was a teenager, that's for sure.
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Men have quite the quirks that women claim us to have.
But women this kind of foreplay tops the cake.
Is there some kind of gentle tummy pamper for this kind of seepage?
If so please let your male counterpart know exactly which brand to buy at the store. Cause you know how us guys always come back with the wrong stuff.
Originally Posted by Garrett

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Not tonight dear, I have a headache.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
There are, of course, plenty of similarities (near-identical number of limbs, for example), but I tend to believe that there are, on average, some pretty profound emotional and pyschological differences between men and women.
I couldn't agree more. I think the real question should be are these differences biological or conditioned by one's particular soicity. I'm sure both factors have at least something to do with it, but is one more profound than the other? Only time will tell I guess.
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Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelila
Yeah, here's why: young men are raised with this weird notion that if they're not thinking about sex all the time, if they're not constantly chasing down one skirt after another, if they're not behaving like "dogs"... that there's something wrong with them. Which is ludicrous and cold-hearted, but it's the stereotype promoted by the media.

Oddly enough, it used to be the other way around, per this rabbi I heard on the radio once: prior to christian history, men were looking for long-term relationships and girls just wanted to have fun. That was his explanation for why the Old Testiment was so down on women's sexuality: they used to be a bunch of randy tarts.

There has to be a balance, so modern women wind up in the staid role of protecting chastity. It seems to me though, that that's starting to swing back the other way. The whole "emo" thing seems to have younger guys behaving more girly than they did when I was a teenager, that's for sure.
That's interesting; are you sure it's a complete role-reversal, though? Clearly, we already live in a world where women are, if not as sexually adventurous as men, at least approaching that point. I would expect the shift to be: men behave like dogs, women catch up, men back off a bit, rinse and repeat. It's hard to imagine a complete 180 from both genders.

I can definitely buy a more moderate shift, though. As much as men might be wired to want sex, I think something kicks in when it becomes too easily accquired. It's a new twist on the old adage about not valuing something that's so easily given away. But beyond that, instincts might play a role: if neither gender is regulating itself, you've got a recipe for chaos.

And yes, the way young men are encouraged to behave these days is ripe for potential disappointment. Sex, by its very nature, only produces short-term benefits. It's not that far removed, logically, from chocolate cake or impulse buys. Almost no one is significantly happier or better off in life because they had sex a few extra times in college 15 years ago, in other words.

I was going to ramble on further, taking the other side of the issue and reaching some kind of equilibrium, but I'm drifting off-topic as it is.



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I think if <-as a man-> I want to be lazy and piss sitting down. Than a woman has every right to work hard to piss standing up. That will keep the balance in the galaxy as long as she remembers to put the damn seat down.



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I think if I want to be lazy and piss sitting down, then a woman has every right to work hard to piss standing up.
I've seen it, my man. At a scuzzy bachelor party in New Jersey. Part of the hired talent's skill set. Believe me, it ain't a pretty sight.
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Originally Posted by Holden Pike
I've seen it, my man. At a scuzzy bachelor party in New Jersey. Part of the hired talent's skill set. Believe me, it ain't a pretty sight.

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Originally Posted by Yoda
That's interesting; are you sure it's a complete role-reversal, though?
Well, I wasn't around for it, but that's what the rabbai said. I'd love to research it further, but finding anything written about the time period before christian history is tough: a. it's scarce and b. it's been written by people with an agenda. I take what can be found with a grain of salt. This was the first time I'd heard the "women used to be the sexual aggressors" notion, and it did make sense given what appears to be mysogeny in the Bible. Despite my own agnosticism, I appreciate anything that makes the Bible appear more sensible.

Clearly, we already live in a world where women are, if not as sexually adventurous as men, at least approaching that point. I would expect the shift to be: men behave like dogs, women catch up, men back off a bit, rinse and repeat. It's hard to imagine a complete 180 from both genders.
Well, again there's a range of behaviours in both genders, but I can imagine the trends reversing. Sex In The City found a huge audience, not by accident.

I can definitely buy a more moderate shift, though. As much as men might be wired to want sex, I think something kicks in when it becomes too easily accquired. It's a new twist on the old adage about not valuing something that's so easily given away. But beyond that, instincts might play a role: if neither gender is regulating itself, you've got a recipe for chaos.

And yes, the way young men are encouraged to behave these days is ripe for potential disappointment. Sex, by its very nature, only produces short-term benefits. It's not that far removed, logically, from chocolate cake or impulse buys. Almost no one is significantly happier or better off in life because they had sex a few extra times in college 15 years ago, in other words.

I was going to ramble on further, taking the other side of the issue and reaching some kind of equilibrium, but I'm drifting off-topic as it is.
Good point about long-term benefits of sex. I think there are actually long-term benefits from not hurling one's self at every passing opportunity. I just don't think it's a gender-specific thing.



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The difference between men and women?

Men's blood does not always rush in the direction of their brains.

ok yes we're different but on the other hand we're not, i mean there's about the same amount of differences so we are equal in our flaws, if that made any kind of sense.
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Originally Posted by undercoverlover
The difference between men and women?

Men's blood does not always rush in the direction of their brains.
Yup. We men have more than one brain to take care of.
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Originally Posted by 7thson
Men seem to be more "pervy" than women, but that is just on the surface. Women are way "pervy" when it comes down to it, they just do not want to admit it.
This i think is true, the trouble with men is that they get caught perving because they have to move there heads to look, Woman have a greater vision field, hence they can perve without moving their heads,
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Originally Posted by nebbit
This i think is true, the trouble with men is that they get caught perving because they have to move there heads to look, Woman have a greater vision field, hence they can perve without moving their heads,
Whaaaa? Really?? I know you ladies are better at dealing with non-verbal interaction and suchlike as a rule, but better peripheral vision? Are you sure? Evidence please young lady! (preferably something in big type with pictures using sexual metaphors )

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http://www.theabsolute.net/misogyny/brainsx.html

Ah, just found these excerpts from a book called Brain Sex. It's an interesting read, but i've no idea how accurate it all is (although i have heard of some of the experiments they mention, so i'm guessing they've been fairly rigorous).

Here's what it says on vision...

Women see better in the dark. They are more sensitive to the red end of the spectrum, seeing more red hues there than men, and have a better visual memory. Men see better than women in bright light. Intriguing results also show that men tend to be literally blinkered; they see in a narrow field - mild tunnel vision - with greater concentration on depth. They have a better sense of perspective than women. Women, however, quite literally take in the bigger picture. They have wider peripheral vision, because they have more of the receptor rods and cones in the retina, at the back of the eyeball, to receive a wider arc of visual input.
Loads of intriguing stuff in there anyway. Well worth a read.

I think they're right to assert that men and women are not 'equal' as in 'identical'. We should accede superiority to eachother in the situations where we vary.

In this 'brave-ish new world' of biological information about difference there's no point sticking our heads in the sand. What's interesting tho is the way our skills complement eachother when used in conjunction, whether performing the same job or complementary ones. A male architect might deal better with the details of physical construction, but a female one might deal better with its social function. A male politician might handle abstract theories better, but a female one might be superior in handling the specific details of its social application (and negotiating the prefered outcome )

And on top of everything else, understanding our differences a bit better could help us deal with the frictions they cause
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Originally Posted by Golgot
Ah, just found these excerpts from a book called Brain Sex. It's an interesting read, but i've no idea how accurate it all is (although i have heard of some of the experiments they mention, so i'm guessing they've been fairly rigorous).
See you didn't need my help, trying to remember where I read it, I read it for work, I read so much for my job just to be up to date, it was from a paper that was looking at a lot of studies done on eyesight, and multi tasking relating the differences of men and woman.



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Originally Posted by undercoverlover
The difference between men and women?

Men's blood does not always rush in the direction of their brains.

ok yes we're different but on the other hand we're not, i mean there's about the same amount of differences so we are equal in our flaws, if that made any kind of sense.

You are 100% correct.

Though women are the same way.



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Biologically and genetically speaking, all women are inherently lesbians. Now I could provide lots of dry statistical and environmental data to support this, and surely bore you all to tears, but I think I’ll let the preponderance of pornography available on every street corner and every strip mall speak for me.

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Originally Posted by nebbit
This i think is true, the trouble with men is that they get caught perving because they have to move there heads to look, Woman have a greater vision field, hence they can perve without moving their heads,
I never get caught because I'm looking around, it's always because of the excessive drooling and crazy boner action.
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Originally Posted by LordSlaytan
I never get caught because I'm looking around, it's always because of the excessive drooling and crazy boner action.
See what i mean, men always get caught, no control