No Time to Die (James Bond 25)

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Damn I lost my bet. Took a Chinese transexual gay man who is against gun violence and drives a hybrid in who will by the new Bond pool. Win some lose some. Congrats on whoever had black female lesbian.
Where did the lesbian bit come in? We weren't briefed on that .



It's actually an angle a reasonable one I think that is suggested by fans of many other franchises. Introduce a new character with the qualities some viewers want, rather than changing the existing one. A recent example of the powers-that-be taking the opposite position was Sulu being retconned as gay in the rebooted Star Trek.
I think the problem Bond has is that the current obsession is representation of lead characters rather than content of films. In reality I think the Bond franchise has been moving with the times at least since Goldeneye but the way its done so isn't changing Bond, its in changing how it treats him. So the Bond of the 60's womanising being idealised as given way to the modern Bond's womanising being viewed as an outdated relic that often gets the women in question killed. The Craig films tend to be the story of a character being enlightened towards behaviour considered more morally correct over the course of them.

I do think introducing different 00 agents would be something that could work. These agents could exist in the same world, interact with M, Q and the rest of Mi6 and go on similar kinds of missions. I could imagine Idris Elba for example being more of a Luthar like agent, brutal but charming detective who rises into Mi6 somehow and faces disrespect from the posh white boys.



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I think the problem Bond has is that the current obsession is representation of lead characters rather than content of films. In reality I think the Bond franchise has been moving with the times at least since Goldeneye but the way its done so isn't changing Bond, its in changing how it treats him. So the Bond of the 60's womanising being idealised as given way to the modern Bond's womanising being viewed as an outdated relic that often gets the women in question killed. The Craig films tend to be the story of a character being enlightened towards behaviour considered more morally correct over the course of them.

I do think introducing different 00 agents would be something that could work. These agents could exist in the same world, interact with M, Q and the rest of Mi6 and go on similar kinds of missions. I could imagine Idris Elba for example being more of a Luthar like agent, brutal but charming detective who rises into Mi6 somehow and faces disrespect from the posh white boys.

I remember them trying to copy Bourne so hard in Quontam of Solace that they forgot to make a decent story then too.
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Sulu never had a love interest in Star Trek though did he? Therefore, what's the point of giving him a sexual orientation at all, if it's not relevant?



I think the problem Bond has is that the current obsession is representation of lead characters rather than content of films. In reality I think the Bond franchise has been moving with the times at least since Goldeneye but the way its done so isn't changing Bond, its in changing how it treats him. So the Bond of the 60's womanising being idealised as given way to the modern Bond's womanising being viewed as an outdated relic that often gets the women in question killed. The Craig films tend to be the story of a character being enlightened towards behaviour considered more morally correct over the course of them.
Yeah, I think there's something in that. It reminds me of Alfie .

I do think introducing different 00 agents would be something that could work. These agents could exist in the same world, interact with M, Q and the rest of Mi6 and go on similar kinds of missions. I could imagine Idris Elba for example being more of a Luthar like agent, brutal but charming detective who rises into Mi6 somehow and faces disrespect from the posh white boys.
They are missing a trick when you think about it. There's some spin-off potential somewhere. I remember M mentioning 009 in The World is Not Enough and of course 006 is seen in GoldenEye. And the big row of seated 00 agents we don't really see all the way back in Thunderball.



Sulu never had a love interest in Star Trek though did he? Therefore, what's the point of giving him a sexual orientation at all, if it's not relevant?
I don't think so but he was often shown as interested in the opposite sex.



I remember them trying to copy Bourne so hard in Quontam of Solace that they forgot to make a decent story then too.
I was thinking today about the speedboat sequence with Bond saying "Navigate!" and how annoyingly similar that was to Tomorrow Never Dies.



They are missing a trick when you think about it. There's some spin-off potential somewhere. I remember M mentioning 009 in The World is Not Enough and of course 006 is seen in GoldenEye. And the big row of seated 00 agents we don't really see all the way back in Thunderball.
I mean in one sense I think its quite admirable that Barbra Broccoli has avoided spin offs, generally I think she's shown a desire to produce quality films rather than cash in during the Craig era.

That said I do think its something that could potentially be done effectively given that you could involve a lot of the existing Bond world.

I do actually think that Bond under Craig has become a very interesting character(much moreso than Jason Bourne who's mostly reactive) for an action hero though so I'd hope for any new character to have the same kind of substance to them rather than being sold purely on gender.



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I don't think so but he was often shown as interested in the opposite sex.
Oh okay, well making Sulu gay, just cause the original actor was gay, would be like remaking Greese, and making Danny a scientologist, just cause Travolta is. It would just be forced I think.



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I like how Yoda immediately sussed out the "new 007 =/= new James Bond" angle but everyone still misinterpreted it and rattled off some predictable complaints anyway.

Regarding spin-offs, I recall when Die Another Day came out and there was some attempt to try giving Halle Berry's character a spin-off, but obviously nothing ever came of that. Maybe that's why they don't bother with them.
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Regarding spin-offs, I recall when Die Another Day came out and there was some attempt to try giving Halle Berry's character a spin-off, but obviously nothing ever came of that. Maybe that's why they don't bother with them.
Yes I seem to remember some talk of that at the time but I'd guess the negative reaction to the film and the reboot of the franchise killed that off and perhaps soured those involved on the idea of spinoffs.

I wouldn't be shock if we saw something come up in the next few years though both to satisfy demands for diversity and to give the franchise a bit of a new direction. Say Tom Hiddlestone as a new Bond and Idris Elba and Scarlett Johasson as other agents.





Very unusual title design they've come up with didn't expect it to be so retro. With the two "o"s I expected the "007" to be integrated into the lettering as with Casino Royale.



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After seeing the new trailer, it doesn't look very promising. I didn't like the villain or Bond woman in Spectre and found them to be weak. Now they are bringing them both back, and I feel they should have done away with them and just concentrate on the new characters. But I will still see it of course and see how it is.



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