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Yes, @Captain Steel, I do believe that you don't view everyone as bad, and that's a good thing.
But I do think..... you found it hard to let go of this guy who rejected you, who couldn't be the good kind of friend you wanted.
And maybe..... maybe it led to you to keep thinking that good people just aren't "attracted" to you. You probably felt that you couldn't pull him into your life, and because of that, you kept right on thinking that only bad people would want to be around you. Does that make any sense to you?
What about OTHER people, though? Have you tried with anyone else who didn't have so many other obligations?
ALSO -- do you think that perhaps you chose somebody who was so busy in their life..... because you knew he would reject you? Did you already know that he wouldn't have time for you? Did you seek him out anyway? Were you hoping - desperately hoping - that he'd be gracious enough to give up his life for you?
But I do think..... you found it hard to let go of this guy who rejected you, who couldn't be the good kind of friend you wanted.
And maybe..... maybe it led to you to keep thinking that good people just aren't "attracted" to you. You probably felt that you couldn't pull him into your life, and because of that, you kept right on thinking that only bad people would want to be around you. Does that make any sense to you?
What about OTHER people, though? Have you tried with anyone else who didn't have so many other obligations?
ALSO -- do you think that perhaps you chose somebody who was so busy in their life..... because you knew he would reject you? Did you already know that he wouldn't have time for you? Did you seek him out anyway? Were you hoping - desperately hoping - that he'd be gracious enough to give up his life for you?
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He told you that? Aren't therapists supposed to be objective.
@Sexy Celebrity, do you really think I could be an axe murderer?
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I think anyone's capable of being an axe murderer. Of course, not everyone turns out to be one. I certainly hope you don't want to be an axe murderer.
They were pieces of white crumpled paper. I think the ice cream was a chocolate/vanilla combo, I remember thinking it looked gross melted together, like diarrhea. But I kept eating it with a fork.
I know what you're thinking, and no I don't have a fetish for poop.
I know what you're thinking, and no I don't have a fetish for poop.
Fetishes, though..... this could POSSIBLY be a sexual thing. Vanilla is a type of sexual thing. It means you like things plain and simple.
What do you think the chocolate and vanilla combination might mean? You were repulsed by it. But you kept eating it anyway with the wrong utensil...…
White crumpled paper...… well, why white crumpled paper? Have you been around any white crumpled paper, lately?
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@Sexy Celebrity did you delete every single one of your posts before you left?
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I've deleted A TON of stuff. All my movie reviews, all my shouts (and I was, like, the #2 shouter), tons of other stuff. I probably have more deleted posts than anyone else.
I just quit my job.
I feel very relieved internally, but sense everyone outside me (former co-workers, family, etc.) hating me for abandonimg ship as it were and making their horrible jobs ever more difficult, envious, or viewing me as an impulsive malcontent who is too lazy or can never fit in or go along.
The bizarre thing is I'm a very tolerant person, very compassionate (in real life anyway), very hard working, yet I always seem to find myself in extremely aberrant working situations that could scarcely be believed if I were to recite all the details. And I always ask, is it just my perception of the situation? (which I don't think a lot of people do - always look to themselves, their attitudes or behaviors as the most likely source of their problems.)
Yet when I tell other people about what's happening to me, they can't believe it - which tells me these things are not just regular or common situations that most everyone has to deal with in their work lives. This isn't just with the recent situation, but seems a pattern for my entire life (and it's not like I'm just negative, because I can acknowledge the several good jobs I've had, exceptional bosses I've had, well-run companies to work for and wonderful co-workers I've met among the apparent desperate psychotic people I seem to attract.)
I feel very relieved internally, but sense everyone outside me (former co-workers, family, etc.) hating me for abandonimg ship as it were and making their horrible jobs ever more difficult, envious, or viewing me as an impulsive malcontent who is too lazy or can never fit in or go along.
The bizarre thing is I'm a very tolerant person, very compassionate (in real life anyway), very hard working, yet I always seem to find myself in extremely aberrant working situations that could scarcely be believed if I were to recite all the details. And I always ask, is it just my perception of the situation? (which I don't think a lot of people do - always look to themselves, their attitudes or behaviors as the most likely source of their problems.)
Yet when I tell other people about what's happening to me, they can't believe it - which tells me these things are not just regular or common situations that most everyone has to deal with in their work lives. This isn't just with the recent situation, but seems a pattern for my entire life (and it's not like I'm just negative, because I can acknowledge the several good jobs I've had, exceptional bosses I've had, well-run companies to work for and wonderful co-workers I've met among the apparent desperate psychotic people I seem to attract.)
I wonder if you are doing that here. As others have suggested, you do for you. External factors (within reason of course) are irrelevant. If you need to heal then do it. I really think they are not at all placing nearly as much judgment onto you as you are probably doing to yourself over this decision. But if they are? Then ultimately they are not worth your concern or deserving of the level of importance you give their opinion because they have zero understanding of your concerns. Ever how insignificant THEY may think this is, it is very significant to you, clearly. They should empathize and recognize that they do not understand and should let you be. But honestly, maybe don't give them that much credit or power? Most likely they don't know and probably just don't know how to process this to begin with.
As you said, most do not self reflect IMO. If not, then how could they ever really empathize?
Please try not to get too heady measuring them, by assuming they are measuring you.
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Hmm. Wait, wait, I think I see now. Crumpled paper, the paper is ruined AND dipped in MELTED ice cream. All eaten with a FORK, which obviously the ice cream would just melt through. Well, it's obvious, clearly I can't bring myself to enjoy the pleasures in life.
Thanks, doc!
Thanks, doc!
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Yes, @Captain Steel, I do believe that you don't view everyone as bad, and that's a good thing.
But I do think..... you found it hard to let go of this guy who rejected you, who couldn't be the good kind of friend you wanted.
And maybe..... maybe it led to you to keep thinking that good people just aren't "attracted" to you. You probably felt that you couldn't pull him into your life, and because of that, you kept right on thinking that only bad people would want to be around you. Does that make any sense to you?
What about OTHER people, though? Have you tried with anyone else who didn't have so many other obligations?
ALSO -- do you think that perhaps you chose somebody who was so busy in their life..... because you knew he would reject you? Did you already know that he wouldn't have time for you? Did you seek him out anyway? Were you hoping - desperately hoping - that he'd be gracious enough to give up his life for you?
But I do think..... you found it hard to let go of this guy who rejected you, who couldn't be the good kind of friend you wanted.
And maybe..... maybe it led to you to keep thinking that good people just aren't "attracted" to you. You probably felt that you couldn't pull him into your life, and because of that, you kept right on thinking that only bad people would want to be around you. Does that make any sense to you?
What about OTHER people, though? Have you tried with anyone else who didn't have so many other obligations?
ALSO -- do you think that perhaps you chose somebody who was so busy in their life..... because you knew he would reject you? Did you already know that he wouldn't have time for you? Did you seek him out anyway? Were you hoping - desperately hoping - that he'd be gracious enough to give up his life for you?
The middle part makes a lot of sense.
With the last paragraph, I can't say I was desperately hoping or knew I'd be rejected. We were already good friends at that time which is probably why he felt comfortable enough to level with me rather than making excuses or doing the ol' "sure, we've got to get together sometime!" thing where they say it with no intention of ever making it happen.
(Like with my cousin's husband who'd always say, "Hey, you should come up to our lake house sometime!" to which I'd respond, "I'd love to! How's this weekend, next weekend? May 1st, any day in July, Labor Day weekend, the day after that, a specific date next year?" to which he'd begin to stammer, "Um... this weekend? Um, I don't think we can THIS weekend. Next weekend... um... I think we're doing something, but HEY! ANYWAY! You've GOT to come up to the lake house sometime! Don't be a such a stranger!" ... It was the old placation invite to appear cordial but with no sincerity behind it. I'd rather someone say nothing than make those false gestures of hospitality with no intention of actually fulfilling them.)
My work friend and I continued to be friends even though we never got together outside of work until the time his company had completed its contract at the site and he was moved to a different position. Although he did contact me once when he was going to be in my area on business and we got together for lunch - that was nice.
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Hmm. Wait, wait, I think I see now. Crumpled paper, the paper is ruined AND dipped in MELTED ice cream. All eaten with a FORK, which obviously the ice cream would just melt through. Well, it's obvious, clearly I can't bring myself to enjoy the pleasures in life.
Thanks, doc!
Thanks, doc!
So.... seeing life as more pleasurable.
Could be why the chocolate and vanilla just didn't seem right, yet you ate it, anyway.
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Somehow I feel that around here.. I'm the one who needs the most therapy from the use of this Forum... I just searched everytime my name was used by someone... Dr Celebrity!.. and yeah .. the things said...
The fork may also be telling you to try an alternative to your problems.
So.... seeing life as more pleasurable.
Could be why the chocolate and vanilla just didn't seem right, yet you ate it, anyway.
So.... seeing life as more pleasurable.
Could be why the chocolate and vanilla just didn't seem right, yet you ate it, anyway.
Maybe I'm just lactose intolerant.
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Excellent post!
The middle part makes a lot of sense.
The middle part makes a lot of sense.
Originally Posted by Captain Steel
With the last paragraph, I can't say I was desperately hoping or knew I'd be rejected. We were already good friends at that time which is probably why he felt comfortable enough to level with me rather than making excuses or doing the ol' "sure, we've got to get together sometime!" thing where they say it with no intention of ever making it happen.
Originally Posted by Captain Steel
(Like with my cousin's husband who'd always say, "Hey, you should come up to our lake house sometime!" to which I'd respond, "I'd love to! How's this weekend, next weekend? May 1st, any day in July, Labor Day weekend, the day after that, a specific date next year?" to which he'd begin to stammer, "Um... this weekend? Um, I don't think we can THIS weekend. Next weekend... um... I think we're doing something, but HEY! ANYWAY! You've GOT to come up to the lake house sometime! Don't be a such a stranger!" ... It was the old placation invite to appear cordial but with no sincerity behind it. I'd rather someone say nothing than make those false gestures of hospitality with no intention of actually fulfilling them.)
Originally Posted by Captain Steel
My work friend and I continued to be friends even though we never got together outside of work until the time his company had completed its contract at the site and he was moved to a different position. Although he did contact me once when he was going to be in my area on business and we got together for lunch - that was nice.
How does this relate to your frustrations of being unhappy with your life?
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It's about time for me to go to my slumber chamber.
You can leave me your problems here and I'll get back to you tomorrow.
You can leave me your problems here and I'll get back to you tomorrow.
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