Watching Movies Alone with crumbsroom

Exactly, Jin, I'm glad you posted this. I had thought of saying something similar about how much of Tom's soul you actually DO see in this movie and how much pain he actually endures and drinks his way through, and how Byrne's performance to capture all of it while keeping up the veneer so convincingly is one of my all-time favorites. The relationship between he and Verna is really one of the tougher ones in movies that I know of and his friendship with Leo is a fascinating look, to me, at two men who clearly have a lot of love for each other but can't get over their pride. Which is a real thing.
I think it's a deep and complex film on an emotional level, set inside a very artistic film, set inside of a gangster film which may also be a comedy except that it's a tragedy, which I just think is an amazingly delicate and beautiful thing to have pulled off.

I think you should check it again because it does have a complicated story that is intentionally revealed very carefully and a lot of the emotion is more subtle again because the movie is very, very much about pride and how it ruins everything. Tom, Leo, Verna, Caspar and even Bernie really, all fall, in their way, on the sword of their own pride. And a lot of tragedy ensues. It really is almost Greek theater in a way, if it just had a chorus. And, honestly, the performances, across the board, are masterful. Byrne's is the best, IMO, but Finney is fantastic, Polito gives the performance of his career, and Harden and Turturro are so pitch-perfect that you know that probably no one else could have made those characters as powerful on-screen as they are (especially Turturro, to no one who's seen him in other films' surprise). Not to mention just some wonderful scenes like the assassination attempt on Leo, which remains one of my favorite film-scenes ever.

Anyone else get a sinking feeling when they look at other threads that aren’t from RT/Corrie holdovers? Seeing the most trite and soul sucking takes about feminism and no men liking movies to a degree that makes you feel like you wandered into a bodybuilding message board for insecure men that stopped their education just short of high school and it robs all interest in interacting with much of the other posters?

Just checking in.

I've been posting with some level of tunnel vision (this thread, horror cram and the main viewing thread plus the question and games forums) but feels like old school RT to me. I'm just happy to be on a working forum TBH.

I think those threads are fine, which is why I added the RT refugees modifier.

I feel like threads such as the current one on feminism and “do guys and girls have different taste” threads and the opinions expressed there would’ve been slammed in RT’s heyday. Then again, RT eventually drove virtually every female poster away except Tak, so there’s probably some myopia on my end there about how toxic that place actually was.

Hey everyone, glad to see you nerds again! Did I miss anything while I was gone?

Do you even lift, bro?

Seriously, though, I think it's extremely unfair to judge the entire MoFo contingent based on a handful of troglodytes. I'd encourage you to venture out of the General Movie Discussion (which is where the type of people you're describing tend to loiter), and explore/interact more with the forum as a whole. I don't know if you submitted a ballot to our Top 100 All-Time Refresh. I don't recall seeing you post in the thread, and the countdown just wrapped up, but browse almost any of its 343 pages and counting (all in less than two months!) and you should see plenty examples of the type of community we have here at Movie Forums. There will always be a few troublesome members, as there is with any online community, but I'd say the overwhelming majority of members here are extremely intelligent, witty, knowledgeable, funny and generally quite personable, and many of us invest quite a bit of time and energy into making this the best movie forum on the internet. Hopefully several of your fellow RT/Corrie refugees who have spent more time interacting with us --- @Takoma11, @Thief, @SpelingError, @Torgo, @crumbsroom, etc. --- can dispel your reservations about our overall character before you start labeling all of us as knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers.

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Honestly, there are goobers and bad takes on every forum. It's more blunt here, but at the same time I don't have to see "BOOBIES!" or "NSFW" (which, let's be honest, was just a bunch of dudes crowd-sourcing a spank bank) every time I scroll down a thread list.

One of the times I left RT I decided I'd come back when the Horrorcram could make it a whole page of posts without talking about a woman's body in an objectifying manner and that time I believe I was gone for 8 months?

Much like any forum, find the people who resonate with you and interact with them. I'm horrible about ignoring bait like the feminism thread, so I have posts in there (I have . . . a lot of posts in there). But mostly I find kindred spirits and talk to them. I'd say that there are easily 5-10 non-RT/Corrie posters on this forum I really like. Some I like more for their taste in film and some I like more for their general demeanor, but there are plenty of good 'uns running around.

YAY!

I'm definitely willing to accept that I'm being unfair, just as I implied I'm probably looking at the former boards with rose colored glasses.*

I'm asking in the hopes that my fellow refugees sway me.

I just feel despirited when the posters whose names jump out to me are ones that seem to frequently spout these tired "bro" talking points (as they also primarily seem to be the ones that reply to me, outside of a couple).

The skeeviness of those threads was never lost on me and always struck me as out of place and inappropriate. Then again, I've never had the urge to watch porn with my buddies, which I've been told is an atypical trait.

I hope I wasn't a primary contributor of note in that but I know I'm also a terrible poster so apologies on that front.

I'll try and keep an eye out for the good-uns. It's probably just me being a curmudgeon.... But dang can a string of bad posts back-to-back put an awful taste in my mouth.

What are you saying, bro?

How can you expect me to know that? Let's be reasonable. I'm clearly babbling. Perhaps prattling.

No knee jerk reaction here, just want to echo an earlier post from Tak and Spaulding, that while we do have some posters like that, by and far there are plenty that are much more reasonable and even willing to listen to constructive criticism.
I was delighted when we had an influx of “corrie refugees”, and I say that firmly tongue in cheek, come aboard here because I saw how engaged they were and how much more interesting many have been when it comes to discussing movies. Many of you are on a level far above me. I’ve mentioned this before.
I find many of you fascinating. The knowledge and the ability to dissect a film astounds me. The hope, is that you may find some here similarly. Don’t hold a handful of trite posts against the whole of MoFo.

Yeah, this is a great forum. The people here are really nice and, though I haven't been here that long, I've had a number of pleasant conversations with the users here. Yes, there are a couple bad apples, but we had a few on RT/Corrie as well. Most online communities have these issues.

Welcome back! Glad to have you here.

(BTW, this is Popcorn Reviews; I changed my username when I make my account here).

All fair points. I'll try and branch out more and try and not let the outspoken opinions of a few color my perception too much.

Hopefully my naysaying only reflects upon me and not the other RT/Corrie posters. Except Rock. He should be blamed for everything.

I had a hunch.

I think its really easy to forget how many sacks of garbage used to post at RT. My tolerance for them eventually eroded, and my last couple of years there were almost exclusively spent **** posting the worst of them. There was a lot of good there, but there was also a lot of bad (And just for old times sake, I'll just spend this brief moment to shout out another long deserved **** you to Apfelsaft, eat bag of dog****, you horsecow). Phew, that feels better.



As for the COrrie, that was an extremely 'exclusive' forum we migrated to which essentially had no stragglers coming in from the outside. Ever. It was mostly the most serious posters that moved over there, and those who were already at the Corrie were fairly genial and knowledgeable as well. So I think we got a little warped on what forums actually looked like, in the real world at least.


There's no doubt a couple of dips around here. Because of course there are. Dips are everywhere. But I'm finding them pretty easy to avoid. As said, they kind of announce themselves by how they brand their threads. I'd be surprised if you can't figure out who they are pretty quick, and avoid at all cost. Honestly, though, there really aren't many.



It's totally fine here. In fact, it's nice to have view points that are occassionally ones we wouldn't get at the Corrie. I think we all got so well versed in eachothers opinions, we forgot there were other points of view even out there. But there are. They're here.



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