Game of Thrones: Season 8, The Final Season (spoilers)

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That elusive hide-and-seek cow is at it again
As a veteran of quite a few hours of Total War games, the tactics of the living were infuriating.
Great example of why I get frustrated when a writer doesn't appear to look at the world through the character's eyes and instead, plots for drama over reason or at least common sense.


Another example:
I saw a yahoo page talking about the latest GoT episode. I skipped the article and jumped straight to the comments. Someone complained about dany not flying directly above the ships in that the projectile launcher only probably had a narrow degree of vertical aim. With that weakness, she should have attacked from above. I think that's just as silly because how would anyone in that world having probably never seen such a weapon consider such limitations. I'd still argue that she might try circling around and coming up on the fleet's rear because that does seem like a reasonable 2-dimensional tactic from someone in that universe. Maybe that's also a stretch too. I don't know.

I wonder, when around the writer's table brainstorming these setups, if anyone made that comment. "Great idea! Wait. This is our setup? *sketches on a piece of paper* There's a fleet waiting in ambush around a small island cliff that Dany can't see---from the air? She is above the island though, right? OKOK suspension of disbelief. I get it,but wouldn't she then just fly around the island using it for cover too?"

No, Steve. she would not do that because if she did, then we can't have a dramatic showdown between her and the fleet! If THAT doesn't happen, then we have no setup for destroying what's left of HER fleet in the following scene! If we can't then destroy her fleet, effectively neutering (ha, cuz they're Unsullied! NEUTERED!? GET IT. STEVE?!), then she might actually have a chance at taking King's Landing! If she has THAT, then wtf do you think will be the straw that pushes her into MADNESS?! The season PIVOTS on her going MAD!! DUH!?

Oh. And Steve? Please pack your things. Security will escort you off the lot in 15 minutes, idiot.


lol.

To be clear, I'm not so much angry with anything as I'm just having a go at how a lot of what I've been watching these last 12 months or so fall victim to this. I think Jedi and Infinity Wars broke me of expectations. I need to just watch Breaking Bad for the 5th time, I guess, and consider retirement. =\
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Why the hello did kings landing look so different too?.
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Great example of why I get frustrated when a writer doesn't appear to look at the world through the character's eyes and instead, plots for drama over reason or at least common sense.


Another example:
I saw a yahoo page talking about the latest GoT episode. I skipped the article and jumped straight to the comments. Someone complained about dany not flying directly above the ships in that the projectile launcher only probably had a narrow degree of vertical aim. With that weakness, she should have attacked from above. I think that's just as silly because how would anyone in that world having probably never seen such a weapon consider such limitations. I'd still argue that she might try circling around and coming up on the fleet's rear because that does seem like a reasonable 2-dimensional tactic from someone in that universe. Maybe that's also a stretch too. I don't know.

I wonder, when around the writer's table brainstorming these setups, if anyone made that comment. "Great idea! Wait. This is our setup? *sketches on a piece of paper* There's a fleet waiting in ambush around a small island cliff that Dany can't see---from the air? She is above the island though, right? OKOK suspension of disbelief. I get it,but wouldn't she then just fly around the island using it for cover too?"

No, Steve. she would not do that because if she did, then we can't have a dramatic showdown between her and the fleet! If THAT doesn't happen, then we have no setup for destroying what's left of HER fleet in the following scene! If we can't then destroy her fleet, effectively neutering (ha, cuz they're Unsullied! NEUTERED!? GET IT. STEVE?!), then she might actually have a chance at taking King's Landing! If she has THAT, then wtf do you think will be the straw that pushes her into MADNESS?! The season PIVOTS on her going MAD!! DUH!?

Oh. And Steve? Please pack your things. Security will escort you off the lot in 15 minutes, idiot.


lol.

To be clear, I'm not so much angry with anything as I'm just having a go at how a lot of what I've been watching these last 12 months or so fall victim to this. I think Jedi and Infinity Wars broke me of expectations. I need to just watch Breaking Bad for the 5th time, I guess, and consider retirement. =\
Everyone tasked with writing big battles should be made to watch Braveheart's "Battle of Stirling Bridge", Wallace actually defeats a superior army by ingenuity and superior tactics. No Deus Ex, no heroes in desperate certain death situations saved by miracles.
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This comment borrowed from Reddit sums up my current frustration with this series.

This show has always made me angry. I was angry when they executed Lady, I was angry when they executed Ned, I was angry with what they did to Drogo, I was angry after the Red Wedding, I was angry when the Nights Watch turned on Jon and murdered him, I was angry when Oberyn Martell died...I have been angry at a lot of things during this show.

However, who I was angry at has changed.

When they executed Lady, I was angry at Sansa for lying and Cersei for demanding Lady's death.
When they executed Ned, I was angry at Joffrey for being a sniveling little prick.
When Drogo died due to the witch, I was angry at Dany for being a twit demanding the women to be saved and going against Dothroki culture and I was angry at Drogo for going along with it. I wasn't angry with the witch...she had her reasons.
When they massacred everyone at the Red Wedding, I was angry at the Freys, I was angry at the Boltons, and I was angry at Catelyn for all her stupid decisions that brought them there.
When the Night's Watch killed Jon, I was angry at them...and Ollie most of all.
When Oberyn Martell died, I was angry at him for delaying the killing blow.

I was angry at all these characters because they were all written fantastically and their actions made sense...even if I was angry at them because they killed off a character I really liked. It was the characters actions that made me angry, and thus made me invested in the story.

Lately though...when something happens...I now get angry at the writers because the characters actions no longer make any sense.
I'm not angry at Arya for killing the Night King...I'm angry at the writers because it makes no sense.
I'm not angry at Dany for not seeing the ships that killed Rhaegal, I'm angry at the writers because ANYONE would be able to see a fleet of ships from that far up in the air.
I'm not angry at the characters that didn't die during the battle of winterfell...I'm angry at the writers for showing them in impossible situations and having them survive.

So basically, Game Of Thrones has always made me angry...but it used to be in a good way that invested me into the show and interested in what happens next...I cared about the characters future, even the ones I hated. But now I just don't care...nothing makes sense anymore so I no longer care what happens. If Cersei wins, whatever...If Dany wins, whatever...If Jon wins, whatever...If Ghost sits on the Iron Throne, whatever.



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Night King is Snoke confirmed, what a big pile of bu****it was his death.
And the death of the dragon by a giant arrow? lmao that was so stupid, they didn't see all that ships coming? Really? What a waste of potential. Also, winterfell is the new Gotham, things got so dark during the battle that we could't see ****, thanks to the terrible camerawork, but okay, nobody cares, 'cause in the last half they used some travelling (just like Battle of Bastards). GoT it's the new LOST.



It’s Rivers in the river lands and Waters in the crown lands.
I know. Gendry is a crownlands bastard. I thought I heard him referred to in the last episode as "Rivers"...but I could have just heard wrong.
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I know. Gendry is a crownlands bastard. I thought I heard him referred to in the last episode as "Rivers"...but I could have just heard wrong.
Yeah, you're right.

Maybe the show-runners really don't care this season, ha.
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Well crowd believes whatever Spining they here about people against the Crown before a public execution because its what the people in power what them to know. Jon would likely give a speech in public and kiss babies. Boy did poor Tyrell Girl miss the wrong person to dig her claws into



Jon did have a point about his sisters Northern ideals about outsiders. You cant make allies being like an arya or a sansa. Jon showed in few places he is what 7 kingdoms needs because he met wildlings and seen them and crows and open the gates and let them through as him trying to save people from horrible fate. Jon experianced being a bastard And Jon is open to working with everyone which he learned from The Wall and Tyrion.



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My biggest fear coming into this final season was that it wouldn't hit the heights of the series, s1-4 and s6. In particular s4 and 6. My feelings for the last few eipsodes have been,

Ep1- OK, just a box ticking and meeting episode. Looked like a little ret conning of what was intended between Theon and Yara etc, no elephants (no CGI budget).

Ep2- Fantastic episode, a great prelude to a major battle, fantastic final 20 minutes.

Ep 3- Probably the most thrilling episode of TV ever, cinematography, music, acting, tension all knocked it out the park. The only problem is after a while you start to think about the obvious cracks in the story. "Brann you must be waiting for the NK when he comes", to do what? Literally just wait as bait in the godswood? Arya kills the NK, D and D "well we just wanted to do what no one expected". Not to mention killing what appeared to be the main antagonist halfway through the finish.

Ep 4- Major cracks and nonsensical plot really starts to drag it down, discussed at length on the last few pages. D and D "Dany just forgot about the Iron Fleet".

Even after episode 3 the show was meeting my expectations, exceeding even but now I'm scared that we're in for a really terrible let down of a finale.

D and D coming across more than ever as untalented hacks, good at adaptation but really struggling to brings things to a coherant conclusion. George Martin deserves a lot of criticism too for not at least getting the next book out over the past 8 years, then they could have worked on the ending together. D and D are gonna be perfect for SW with their subverting expectations nonsensical story lines. I hope some of the people hiring them take a moment of pause and see that they're a TV Peter Jackson, good at putting a great story on screen but simply not very good writers/storytellers.

I'll be watching the finish on the edge of my seat for sure but I'm certain there's gonna be a real bad taste in my mouth afterwards.



I dont know LOTR peter jackson changed made since and I liked how he handled the Books to Film. Bare in mind Martin has had to make Fire and Blood and Map Book Of Westeros. So I think lots of book release issues have to do with Martin being busy in the world of Ice and Fire. I some how have feeling Jon and Dany will never hook up in the Books that is a D and D thing.