Will anybody go to see a new or old Woody Allen movie? Ever?

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Polanski did molest a child. He admitted to it. He drugged her first.


But if he made a sequel to "Knife in the Water", I'd check it out.


I'm against all blacklists (Mel Gibson, James Woods, etc).



His wife wasn’t his adopted daughter. She was Mia Farrow’s adopted daughter.
Thanks, like I said I don't follow this stuff too closely. I mean like his movies and will watch them, but he's an odd dude!
We don’t know that. Dylan has never been able to prove it & I for one don’t believe her.
I was going to say something along those lines. Without proof of wrong doing, we're just smearing Woody Allen with hearsay and that's wrong.

I remember back when Michael Jackson was alive and he was accused of child molestation, people then really liked to dump on him. Funny how now that he's dead he's been sanctified. Just give Woody a few more decades and he'll be Saint Woody!



Woody Allen is innocent couple things people need to get straight...


https://mosesfarrow.blogspot.com/201...es-farrow.html

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Even people who doubt Dylan’s claims of assault, often cling to Woody’s relationship with Soon-Yi as justification for their skepticism about him. The public attacks on Soon-Yi by complete strangers still stagger me, as does the general misinformation that so many people consider fact. She is not Woody’s daughter (adopted, step, or otherwise), nor is she developmentally challenged. (She got a master’s degree in special education from Columbia University!) And the claim that they started dating while she was underage is totally false.

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Mia told me that she was the victim of attempted molestation within her own family. Her brother, my uncle John, who visited us many times when we were young, is currently in prison on a conviction of multiple child molestation charges. (My mother has never publicly commented on this or expressed concern about his victims.) My uncle Patrick and his family would often come by, but those visits could end abruptly as Mia and Patrick would often wind up arguing. Patrick would commit suicide in 2009.

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she married 50-year-old Frank Sinatra when she was only 21. After they divorced, she moved in to live with her close friend Dory Previn and her husband André. When my mother became pregnant by André, the Previns’ marriage broke up, leading to Dory’s institutionalization. It was never spoken of in our home, of course, and not even known to me until a few years ago. But, as I look at it – as a licensed therapist as well as an eyewitness – it’s easy to see the seeds of dysfunction that would flourish within our own home.

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I’m sure my mother had good intentions in adopting children with disabilities from the direst of circumstances, but the reality inside our walls was very different. It pains me to recall instances in which I witnessed siblings, some blind or physically disabled, dragged down a flight of stairs to be thrown into a bedroom or a closet, then having the door locked from the outside. She even shut my brother Thaddeus, paraplegic from polio, in an outdoor shed overnight as punishment for a minor transgression.

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Tam died of “heart failure” at the age of 21. In fact, Tam struggled with depression for much of her life, a situation exacerbated by my mother refusing to get her help, insisting that Tam was just “moody.” One afternoon in 2000, after one final fight with Mia, which ended with my mother leaving the house, Tam committed suicide by overdosing on pills. My mother would tell others that the drug overdose was accidental, saying that Tam, who was blind, didn’t know which pills she was taking. But Tam had both an ironclad memory and sense of spatial recognition. And, of course, blindness didn’t impair her ability to count.

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That was the start of her coaching, drilling, scripting, and rehearsing – in essence, brainwashing. I became anxious and fearful. Once, when I was given a new pair of jeans, I thought they would look cool if I cut off a couple of the belt loops. When Mia saw what I had done, she spanked me repeatedly and had me remove all my clothing, saying, “You’re not deserving of any clothes” and making me stand naked in the corner of her room, in front of my older siblings who had just returned from dinner with their father André. (After I spoke to People magazine in 2014 about how I was treated, Dylan called it a “betrayal” and said that I was “dead to” her. She later publicly dismissed my recollections of my childhood as “irrelevant.” This from a woman who now styles herself an “advocate for abuse victims.”)

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To those who have become convinced of my father’s guilt, I ask you to consider this: In this time of #MeToo, when so many movie heavyweights have faced dozens of accusations, my father has been accused of wrongdoing only once, by an enraged ex-partner during contentious custody negotiations. During almost 60 years in the public eye, not one other person has come forward to accuse him of even behaving badly on a date, or acting inappropriately in any professional situation, let alone molesting a child. As a trained professional, I know that child molestation is a compulsive sickness and deviation that demands repetition. Dylan was alone with Woody in his apartment countless times over the years without a hint of impropriety, yet some would have you believe that at the age of 56, he suddenly decided to become a child molester in a house full of hostile people ordered to watch him like a hawk.

I won't post blow by blow of the alleged molestation charge against Woody. But two things to keep in mind about this case, Moses claims that it would have been impossible for Woody to take Dylan up to the attic to molest her as it was just a crawl space and they would have noticed. Mia proceeded to fire her nanny who did not support the claims against Woody, she also estranged herself from several of her children. Also it is very unusual for a pedophile to go from an attraction from teenage girls to children. Pedophiles are attracted to pre or post pubescent children not typically both.


Woody and Soon Yi have been married for almost 30 years without incident. Mia Farrow on the other hand has had three of her children die, two become estranged from her. Her best friend ended up committed to a mental asylum and underwent electroshock therapy.


Mia Farrow's brother went to jail for sexual abuse of a minor. Mia Farrow's ex boyfriend John Phillips was accused of sexual abuses of a minor. When Mia was 21 she married Frank Sinatra a man 30 years older than her.



As far as I know there’s no new charges or new accusations. It’s just the same old same old... whether you believe that or not is up to you. He’s not charged with anything.

For me, yeah he’s a bit of a weirdo as a person. He makes some great movies though. At least he has. I’ve liked quite a few of them and I usually try my best to separate a person from his art. However, it’s not always easy. Sometimes it can be really hard. But for now, I’m still watching and enjoying Woody Allen movies.



We don’t know that. Dylan has never been able to prove it & I for one don’t believe her.
yea it’s pretty hard to believe a dude who married his girlfriend’s daughter and makes movies in which he dates underage girls might have done something creepy. it’s always a good idea to side with the extremely powerful person with far more incentive to lie. sure, that might mean powerful people get to keep abusing people and molesting children without consequences, but at least woody will get a chance to make his next shltty movie that nobody is asking for.
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Bully is one thing. But child molestation or extreme racism/homophobia/etc in people like him, Polanski, and Mel Gibson just gets a big no from me. As I said, though, if I find that the director doesn't put themself into their work I don't have a problem. I enjoyed Braveheart because it seems far removed from Gibson as a person.
Oh okay, I didn't think that Gibson is any worse than someone like James Cameron, or David O'Russell who seems full of hate for everyone. So if I can accept James Cameron, then I can accept Gibson.

And yes abusing a child is worse than abusing an adult, that's true.

But as for being racist, I don't understand how people can think that is worse than being a misanthrope. James Cameron hates everyone and is known for being abusive to people he works with. So he hates everyone. Where as Mel Gibson is was being racist to a particular group of people. So how is it that being hateful to just one group of people, is worse, than hating everyone like Cameron? Isn't being a misanthrope worst than a racist, cause a misanthrope hates everyone?



Thanks for posting that @Siddon I didn't know all of that, glad to have read it.
@MovieMeditation I considered a Woody film for the 22nd HoF, well maybe next time.
What if you had nominated that and we had a participant who is against Woody Allen and refuse to watch anything he makes. That person would not be able to participate in the HoF I take it? As one has to watch all movies?*

That must have happened before or something like it. That someone refused to watch a movie in a HoF for whatever personal reasons?



Polanski did molest a child. He admitted to it. He drugged her first.
He pled guilty to under-age sex, but that’s not “molestation”.

When Mia was 21 she married Frank Sinatra a man 30 years older than her.
There’s nothing wrong with that, but what I find unsavory is that Ronan Farrow - whom Woody always believed is his biological son - may actually be Sinatra’s son. At least according to Mia.

As far as I know there’s no new charges or new accusations. It’s just the same old same old... whether you believe that or not is up to you. He’s not charged with anything.
yea it’s pretty hard to believe a dude who married his girlfriend’s daughter and makes movies in which he dates underage girls might have done something creepy.
It’s not a crime to marry a girlfriend’s adopted daughter.
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There’s nothing wrong with that, but what I find unsavory is that Ronan Farrow - whom Woody always believed is his biological son - may actually be Sinatra’s son. At least according to Mia.

As a singular instance...no however a pattern of strange familial behavior from Mia. There's nothing wrong with being estranged from one child...but multiple children. There's nothing wrong with having one family member kill themselves...but three seems like their is an issue.


1st Husband - 30 years older than her
2nd Boyfriend - accused of having an incestuous relationship with his daughter
2nd Husband - was originally her best friends husband and who's exwife was committed to a mental asylum
4th Boyfriend - never lived with her and left her for one of her adult children, later during custody fight accused of molesting her child.



He pled guilty to under-age sex, but that’s not “molestation”.
She was 13. What's the argument? That it's only necessarily molestation at, like, 11?

Nevermind that she was under the influence.



So, all this started because A) Mia Farrow maybe is mentally unbalanced and B) she's understandable pissed that Woody has a relationship with her adopted daughter (who's an adult). Not to hard to believe then that a nutsy, scorned woman might throw some serious **** on her ex husband in that situation.

The thing is people if we condemn others based on hearsay alone where no better than Joe McCarthy and the black listing that went on in the 1950s in America. Do you really want to be like McCarthy?



Im watching Alice right now. Never really watched woody Allen movies before. Not bad so far.



He pled guilty to under-age sex, but that’s not “molestation”.
molestation
n. the crime of sexual acts with children up to the age of 18, including touching of private parts, exposure of genitalia, taking of pornographic pictures, rape, inducement of sexual acts with the molester or with other children and variations of these acts by pedophiles. Molestation also applies to incest by a relative with a minor family member and any unwanted sexual acts with adults short of rape.



She was 13. What's the argument? That it's only necessarily molestation at, like, 11?
My argument is with the word “molestation”, with which he was never charged.

Legalese or splitting hairs, if you like, but the charges against him were rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14 & furnishing a controlled substance to a minor.



Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.
Isn't this the 4th or 5th time this has been discussed, and some of it by the same people?
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Both Gibson's caustic remarks and biblical snuff film, and Allen, hooking up with his wife's previous marriage daughter, even if it was legal, seem like acts that any reasonable person with a public life would avoid. I'm thinking that's what people do when they are an adult....at least give some thought to what will happen because of an action.



Isn't this the 4th or 5th time this has been discussed, and some of it by the same people?
I guess it's like, "what's the greatest movie"...a topic that won't go away.