Bruce Willis remarries

Saw a People magazine article today on Netscape gushing (do People articles ever do anything else?) about Bruce Willis marrying some woman 22 years his junior. Picture of the couple showed Bruce looking every minute of his 54 years--and then some. Sorry, I just never understood dating, much less marrying, some woman young enough to be my daughter. What really got me, tho', was ex-wife Demi Moore attended the nuptials with her new husband! Folks, you've got to work just as hard at making a good divorce as you do a good marriage, and including ex-family members in new-family celebrations just doesn't cut it!

I dunno, I think Willis looks awfully good for his age. He might look a bit older now, as it seems like he has some odd beard, but when he's bald and clean-shaven, he looks a good decade younger most of the time. To me, at least.

Anyway, I'm not going to defend the idea of marrying someone so much younger than yourself, but certainly you or I can imagine why an older man might find it appealing.

I don't know... I think it's kind of nice that Moore and Willis are able to get along as well as they do together... especially for their kids shakes...

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He is definitly trying to show up Demi. This chick is way to young for Willis.

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Willis is timeless. The man's coolness never fade. It's a marvel really. At age 50'ish he was still able to pull another Die Hard movie out of his sleeve. Forget Stallone, Willis is in a whole other league. Die Hard 4.0 might not have been great, but there was nothing wrong with Willis' performance.
If the guy marries a young fox - another cool point in my book.

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When people start saying you "look good for your age," that's a sure sign that you're too old to be doing whatever you're doing at that time!

I understand why some older men imagine it is appealing to have a wife half their age, but think about it--men hit their sexual prime at about age 17 while women peak sometime in their 30s. Men over 50 are at high risk for prostate problems, including prostate cancer, one of the leading causes of death among so-called middle-aged men (assuming that Willis is likely to live to celebrate his 108th birthday). They also are more likely to have high blood pressure, all of which (with some other things) can trigger erectile dysfunction. Prostate surgery has left many men impotent. So have treatments for colon cancer, which is also an increased danger after 50. Plus sometime in their 40s, men's normal testosterone levels naturally begin to drop; by your 60's, you're likely to have the testosterone level of a 9-year-old girl. So here he is at an age when his body starts to go wrong while his wife is at the peak of her sexual drive. And I don't care how good you take care of your body, you are not going to be able to perform after 50 the way you could during your teens and twenties. The ability to drink and party all night starts dropping well before 50. And you run a major risk of just looking foolish like the rich old man who Anna Nicole married--how many guys do you think ever said, "Wow, I wish I were him!"

Back in my 40s when I was between marriages and running the streets again, I made it a point never to date anyone under 35. In fact the one 35-year-old woman who I dated seemed awfully immature to me. I was in my mid-teens when she was born; I was in the Army when Kennedy was killed, she heard about it on the classroom speaker in elementary school.

Personally, I agree with Ben Franklin--older women are the real jewels. They're past playing games, their expectations are lower after being disappointed by other men too many times, and they're no longer so self-centered. Married women particularly are receptive to a guy who brings romance and fun back into their lives.

Having lived through my parents' divorce and a couple of my own, I'm convinced that anyone who is willing to be in the same room with an ex-spouse really didn't do it right. Deep down, there are no "friendly" divorces. One of the former spouses always feels that he or she somehow got the shaft while the former partner walked away with the gold mine. And if the two parents couldn't make their marriage work "for the kids," then why do they think they can maintain a "friendly" divorce "for the kids." I mean, who's fooling who?

The ability to "get along" with an ex tells me neither party was ever cared very much to begin with. "Like" can turn into love, but you can't reverse love into like. Someone always gets burned by love's dying embers.

Yeah, it's not difficult to do yet another Die Hard as long as you don't run out of twentysomething stuntmen. Or do your really believe Willis ever breaks a sweat in those movies?

As for attracting and marrying "a young fox," even the Elephant Man can make out in a Juarez cat house with a $20 bill taped to his forehead. How much better could he do with a big house, a bigger bankroll, and the connectons that might land an actng contract for a spouse? How hot was Demi's career before she married Willis, and what has she done since their divorce?

I think that the woman in that picture is Kate Beckinsale and not the woman he married.

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I think your right. Im feel like a dumb-dumb! Should I delete the post? I feel bad screwing up rufneks thread.

No, don't delete the post. If anything, the picture shows how young Willis looks despite his age.

I edited the word out of your post that you had to maneuver the system to post... there is a reason the system filters out such words on here... don't do it again.

Well obviously I wasn't reffering to his physical activity. Rather his ability to pull the John McLane character of even though he's getting older. In other words - his acting abilities. I mean isn't that what being an actor is all about?

Okay, I’m trying to understand what you mean about Willis being “still able to pull another Die Hard movie out of his sleeve” at “age 50'ish,” as though that is somehow a major accomplishment.

If we put aside all of the special effects and all of the heavy physical activity that would be done by a younger stuntman anyhow, how is it any harder for Willis at age 54 to "pull off" the John McLane character than it was for him to play the same character when Willis was say 44? Would his acting abilities be better when he's 54, having another 10 years of experience on screen, therefore making the role easier for the more experienced actor? Or would it be more difficult for him to perform the role because as he passes middle-age perhaps his memory is starting to fade at 54, making it more difficult to learn and remember his lines? Would he maybe have to come on the set an hour earlier at age 54 because he'd have to spend more time in make-up for them to get him to look 34 (how old is McLane's character anyway?) than it was to get him to look 34 when he was 44?

Would his “acting ability” be better, worse, or totally unchanged because of his age?

Relax, mikey--you didn't mess anything up. I don't know the girl in the photo anymore than the photo of Willis and his new wife. Don't recognize either woman's name or picture. Doesn't matter--both of them are still too young for him. And Willis looks better in that photo than the wedding photo I saw.

Do you think perhaps he's wearing make-up to help him look younger? And how decrepit do you expect a 54-year-old man to look anyway?

He does look younger in that photo than the one I saw, but the one I saw was a full facial shot, not turned at angle so you're looking mostly at his bald dome as in the one posted on this thread.

Here (hopefully) are the two Willis pictures I saw. I think he looks older in the shot without the beard and rather drawn face than the one with a beard. Anyway the woman looks more like a daughter than a wife.Attachment 6394 Attachment 6395

Goodness rufnek, are you familiar with the multi-quote function!?

Some actors, even regular ole men, in their 50's don't bother trying to stay in shape so they look much older than they really are. I'm not implying that he does, in fact, stay in shape, it just certainly looks like he does something.

As for more Die Hard movies and the use of CG and stuntmen. They could keep making Die Hard til their blue in the face, won't change the fact that Willis is getting to the point where he can't make a film like the original Die Hard and expect anyone to buy it. The last installment was a disgrace to the rest of the franchise.

wow, ruf - you really have a bee in your bonnet on this one dontcha? i've always thought bruce willis was freaking hot, regardless of the fact that he's always had 20+ years on me, and even though he's my dad's age, you gotta admit that guy looks good for his age. Your honesty is refreshing though - i admit that i, too, find i have far more respect for the old guys who in passing tweak my nose and come at me with an if "I were younger," and then back off, as opposed to ones who come at me with a "lets."

My friends dad (who once said the above to me), is a firm believer in the 10-year gap rule. His theory (and he counsels an awful lot of people), is that at the 10-year gap, you do start to have sexual difficulty, and with the older-man/younger-woman gap, a serious probability of sexual frustration on the part of the woman, or outright cheating. Its interesting, because i actually do know a lot of people in relationship with gaps larger than 10 years, and so far, it hasnt been pretty. One of the ladies was my friends mom. Sweetest lady you know. When we were younger, she remarried to a man 15+ years her senior, and as far as we know he doted upon her and they loved each other. He died within years of their marriage. It was quite disturbing - and she was single again before she was 50 years old. Another, more stark example was a girl I knew a few years ago that was my exact age at the time (27yrs). I was blown away to discover that she was dating a 60 year old man. Worse, he was married, had children older than her, was seriously "connected," and she was very firmly kept, though I spent many working hours musing on how "kept" did "kept" mean, and the various intricacies of this. When, after much study, I discarded the idea that she was a high-class escort/prostitute, I found myself unable to discard the question that repeatedly floated to my mind: where / how / when was she getting any???

Im not gay, but I am also not at all threatened by other women nor afraid to to acknowledge their beauty, and in the words of the guys we knew, she was "freaking hot." It was like watching a bad movie - it became painfully obvious that she was sleeping around with other guys on her Sugar Daddy, and there was always a veneer of terror (or alternately, recklessness) about her that accompanied it, because the wilder she got, the more present Mr. Connected became. It was very self-destructive behavior, and was quite horrifying to watch. Many of us honestly believed that she might simply turn up missing one day.

I share these two examples because i think that:

(a) you can have two people who have an age gap that really do care about one another - but this does not mean that there is not a power imbalance, and that they wont be presented with physical challenges. i have yet to see an old/young relationship actually work, save in the romance novels.

(b) having said that, i do think that there are women out there who arent necessarily looking to be "equal" with their spouses, and are willing to take on a more child-like role; by the same token, there are probably men out there who wouldnt mind having a woman who couldnt tie her shoes without their help. Im being catty, but Im trying to convey that I think there is a definite power imbalance in these old/young relationships, but I imagine that as long as both parties are aware of and WANT that power imbalance, it might work.

(c) then they have to get over the "who is she going to have sex with?" hurdle. she either slowly dies inside, or has sex with someone else, and he's either ok with that, or he's not. Im just not convinced that all older men are so evolved and cosmopolitan that they'd be ok with their young, freaking hot wife cuckolding them. I remain skeptical.

(e) then they have to consider the power imbalance in its own context. is she a gold-digger? is the love real? is she there for him, or is she there for what he offers (money, power, status). there is an adage that men age into power, and if that's so, a pretty young thing can simply choose to bypass all the suffering that young men go through in that pursuit of power, and just pick up an older model that comes with all the bells and whistles. a lot of bitterness that older women have is that the added benefit of getting an older man is that some other woman has already housebroken him. so yes. he probably also has the kindness and consideration attendant of having been a husband and father before. there is a calculation in this, because women age away from beauty, so a marriage of beauty & power would be an older man and younger woman.

its why people hesitate to applaud such unions - because one cannot help but view it as having been intentionally orchestrated as the mercenary machinations of a social climber. I, however, do not feel sorry for Bruce Willis or guys like him, because if it turns out they got a lemon - hey. You get what you pay for. And they have truly paid for these women. Because if younger women just naturally romantically loved old men, you would see more younger women walking hand in hand down the boulevard with old men, regardless of the social status of the man. Im interested to know - seriously. If the love is so natural and so real - how come it didnt alight upon the other kindly older men weve all come in contact with?

Now. I've said a lot, and I havent even gotten started on the travesty of Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher, or how Will Smith plays into all of this. We see a lot more Older Women / Younger Men unions, and they seem to be lauded by feminists and in the media these days, but I find them just as predatory. However, in the case of older women, i imagine the predation is actually really about sex. With older men, its about image, power, and the idea of sex (because if Ruf is correct, they arent really able to get the job done), but with women, the sex is real. And frankly, im not knocking your numbers Ruf, but I've read otherwhere that a woman's sexual prime stretches much further than 35 years of age. In otherwords, hubby's winding down, and wifey's winding up.

There's probably far more shagging going on in Moore's household than Willis'.

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Isn't all this predicated on the idea that the man can't keep up, though? Not all men follow exactly the same trajectory, and I think it's fair to say that, being a movie star and all, Willis is probably in much better shape than your average 50-something. Anyway, men of every age like pretty women, so whether you think highly of his choice or not (and I don't, really), it's not hard to understand.

Ah, you lost me here. You're perturbed by the thought of him marrying a younger woman, but suggest he dally about with married women? Methinks that's worse.