Censorship

Is it really unreasonable? Just about EVERYONE has a bigger problem with sex than they do with violence. Why is that? Well, perhaps an impressionable teen is more likely to be imitate sexual behavior on screen than he or she would be likely to go imitate someone's murder in a film, or other forms of violence.

That could be part of it, although I think it also has something to do with sex being a taboo subject. Should it be? Well, to a degree, yes it should. Sex is a personal thing. It's a very sensitive subject (no pun intended).

In my opinion, sex is something that should be sacred...this partially comes from my religious beliefs, so while I don't expect others to necessarily agree with me, I do believe that we all know, deep down inside, that it's not something to be taken lightly, and as such a lot of people are bothered by displays like that onscreen.

I don't understand why. I mean if there are nude paintings why can't there be nudity on the screen.

Well, a painting is almost never as lifelike as such acts on screen. My above comments still apply and cover that question anyway, I'd think.

I wonder why teenagers aren't allowed to see sex in films, but are old enough to go out and have it themselves. Movies that deal with a teenager's everyday life are rated R so they can't be seen. That makes lots of sense.

Sex is taboo, but wouldn't you rather your child see a sex scene between two people who love each other (onscreen) as opposed to someone getting shot in the head? Death is also a very sensitive subject, just not in films. Why oppress something that can be a beautiful thing, yet allow these horrific acts of violence to pass through? This again just shows how uneven and corrupt and flawed our ratings system is.

My God! That's a BREAST! How dare they show my child this!? From personal experience, I can say that the same parents complaining about this are the ones whose kids stay out all night having unprotected sex, drinking, etc.

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I don't get it, TWT. Are you saying that onscreen death CAN be taken lightly, but sex can't?

I think that the rating system is a little off in their quest to prevent those who shouldnt be seeing a movie out of the theater. It doesn't matter what it's rated and idiot parent will rent it for there kids when it comes out on video. Trust me on that one. All the kid has to say is that it looked really good or I heard it was really good and the parent doesn't care. They'll be in the other room gettin drunk readin porn probably not payin any attention to what the kid is doing. That's where the violence in some kids comes from. They get away with all these things, and then when someone finally crashes their fantasy world they get pissed and want to take it out on someone. Half the time its the parents that let them get away with crap like that. Guess I got a little off course there but it's the truth. I guess what I'm trying to say is let the kid see it, if they wanna see it and won't let anyone tell them no than its all their fault if they don't like what they see.

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I'm saying exactly what I said, which is a description as to why I think people are more comfortable with sex than they are with violence. The thing about them having sex, but not seeing the movie, is not terribly ridiculous to me, because the rating system is not the law. The people who set laws are not the people who rate movies. If it were the same group of people, THEN it would be ridiculous.

Sex a beautiful thing? It depends. Sex on screen can be like sex in real life, can't it? Like I said before (my post earlier should explain my whole stance, I think), I believe that deep down inside, we all know sex is a sacred thing, and to see it simulated or faked or something of the sort in such a realistic fashion sets off some internal alarms that we cannot explain.

Ohhh and it's sacred so that explains it. There are so many things that are sacred that have been portrayed on the big screen. Pretty much anything that deals with Christ is a sacred subject but how many movies have been made about or concerning him? A lot. Ohhh but since we are teaching our children about Christ it's OK.

Uh, yeah, pretty much. I said above that I don't expect all of you to agree with me. I'd be shocked if you did. I also didn't say that it always was bad...I merely offered up my opinions as to why the outcry occurs. If you want my opinion, yeah, I'm more comfortable with violence than sex. Partially because I think most people are a lot less likely to imitate violence.

Again, all of this is stated quite clearly in my above post.

Well, what is more offensive and what is less offensive is totally subjective. i think that when people say that certain things can be censored, and certain things can't, they look like complete hypocrites. i can't stand being told what to think, and i don't think any grown adult would.

I don't see it as being hypocritical -- I see it as having an opinion. I'm not staying my views on censorship as fact, but I do believe them to be quite reasonable, as well as practical.

Ok, honestly I'm too lazy to read all the previous posts so I'll say how I feel basically.

I don't mind movie ratings, they don't really ever affect me, but if I could change the system I would. I think movies should still have ratings, maybe a bit more descriptive, but if your under a certain age, you shouldn't be denied seeing that movie because of your age. I think ratings should be more of a warning measure, telling you what is in the movie, and then you as an individual should decide if you could "handle" a movie like this.

As for movie censorship, I don't think their should be any. If a movie is originally intended to have an excess of one feature of a movie(violence, sex, etc) then it should be left alone, as the way it was made. The way I see it, the only censorship I ever hear of is that things were cut out of a movie, not because of the extreme nature of the thing, but because the exec's behind the project wanted to tone it down so that it would appeal to a wider demographic, and thus bring in more money.

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Speaking of the Ratings System, it probably will change to a more descriptive system in the next few years. I think the only thing holding it back is the fact that Jack Valenti is still in charge at the MPAA (and he created the original ratings system). The Director's Guild is pushing for a more descriptive ratings system (that is hopefully more evenly applied), though, and whoever heads the MPAA after Jack leaves will probably want to better the current system in order to please critics in Congress and parents.

Many audience members have the ability to read film, and process it in a way that means they can seperate reality from unreality, hence the quote "It's just a movie": other audience mebers (a vast minority) cannot make these distictions and process the information in such a way that the distinctions between fantasy and reality are not clear. Look at these copy-cat killings that have occurred in the States inspired by films such as Scream. On a more minor scale it can also happen, I went into town the other day and saw someone dressed exactly like Neo from the Matrix hanging around W H Smiths newsagents... Sad B@star@d!

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Oooh, I forgot about this thread. I want to keep arguing with Chris about sex in the movies.

I don't think people having sex onscreen should be more sensitive than violence, becuase let's face it, one is natural, the other is not. What's your explanation for that Chris?

I already completely explained my viewpoint, dude. Want me to copy and paste one of my earlier posts here again for you to read? I also might argue that some forms of violence are indeed natural.

I don't mind the ratings system, I'm old enough to watch anything from G-rated movies to the "naughty" ones

What ticks me off more is the censorship that they have here on radio... For example, there's an Everlast song with these lyrics:

"...He pulled out his Chrome 45,
talked some **** and wound up dead"

they censor it to sound like

"...He pulled out his *silence*
talked some *silence* and wound up *silence*"

I couldn't believe it, it's THAT bad over here... and they say there's such a thing as freedom of speech!!

Not to mention Eminem songs...

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