Is porn art?

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Sorry bud. I've just woken up and I'm in a funny mood.


I doubt anyone watching porn is concentrating on how well it's directed or the camera angles.


Unless it's Gonzo. Gonzo is all about camera angles.




I doubt anyone watching porn is concentrating on how well it's directed or the camera angles.
After I started making movies of my own something really strange happened. I started to notice how bad the lighting is in porn.



Sorry if I'm rude but I'm right
I doubt anyone watching porn is concentrating on how well it's directed or the camera angles.
When you rate the cinematography in porn, you know something's wrong. :P I'm interested if porn can be art, but also if porn elements in art make it any less artful.



I'm curious what Sean and Daniel have to say about this.
First thing I thought of when I saw the thread. I'm speechless. Minio won the argument for you I think.
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Porn in art? Depends what you define as porn though.


Is Michelangelo's David porn? He's naked after all.


I think nudity in art is ok... but the definitely of porn can be a blurred line if you're comparing nudity with pornography.



Sorry if I'm rude but I'm right
After I started making movies of my own something really strange happened. I started to notice how bad the lighting is in porn.
Do you adjust the brightness on your screen so you can have your mind at ease, then?
I don't think any prurient medium can be honestly called art, unless Christina Hendricks is in it
What if it's two Christinas having a hot lesbian action? I guess that would be art of the highest order for you.
It is if I'm starring in it.
If you're starring in it, it's more like horror.
Is Michelangelo's David porn? He's naked after all.
It's not. It's not even erotica. Both porn and erotica have a certain goal, whereas David is to present the beauty of human's body. You're not supposed to drool over it, or mastrubate to it. You're supposed to be in awe with the transcendental beauty of it.



Here's how I'd see the difference between nudity in art and porn.


Art: The "study" of the beauty of the human body. Tastefully, (sometimes not tastefully), presented for all to see, in all its glory.


Porn: A series of images, pictures, photos or a movie... made solely for the sexual gratification of the audience. Designed specifically for erotic satisfaction.



To me, no. In the end porn is all about pointing a camera at 2 people (or more) having sex. I do agree that the line can be blurred a bit with an art film having graphic sex scenes in it, but as far as straight-up porn goes no I don't think it is art.



Art. People take garbage, and can make it into art. If a renowned painter put to canvass people having sex, would we call it porn? If a renowned photographer took pictures of people having sex, would we call it porn? Chloe Sevigny gave James Gallo a blowjob in The Brown Bunny, and she still says it was art. Really?

Thing is, "Art" has no form, no definition that encompasses what it truly is. Never will be because there are people that would look at Art made from garbage and think "Thats garbage", and theyre right. Is it because they dont "see" the art in it, or was there really anything to see once you got past that the artwork was made from garbage?

Plain truth is you can paint, photograph, film, etc.... people having sex and it be considered art. Yes sex in itself has volumes of more depth of thought or feelings put towards it than most things in life, so dont try and convince me theres no potential for Art there if sex is involved.

The other plain truth is, and I dont exaggerate this in any way, but youd have an easier time finding a needle in a haystack than finding a porno considered by most as Art. Rightfully so as the porn industry makes shallow two dimensional crap. Not even that stupid Brown Bunny was art. Maybe one day things will evolve, but whats available today is not art.