That came on the radio yesterday when I was taking the pups for a ride. I cranked it with no shame
Showdown Song Tournament: Battle of the Male Solo Artists
Cranking one off to Steve Perry would give me immense shame, cricket is clearly a better man than I
Nominations are CLOSED!
BATTLE ONE will be posted shortly...
By the way, I'm glad to see Steve Perry, George Harrison, and Peter Gabriel in this race! This is gonna be good!
BATTLE ONE will be posted shortly...
By the way, I'm glad to see Steve Perry, George Harrison, and Peter Gabriel in this race! This is gonna be good!
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“Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard ya hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!” ~ Rocky Balboa
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BATTLE ONE
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
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Mojo - could we not have shorter rounds? that's nigh on 2 hours worth of songs to listen to. I'll not get that listened to in a 24 hour period. Just saying
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Mojo - could we not have shorter rounds? that's nigh on 2 hours worth of songs to listen to. I'll not get that listened to in a 24 hour period. Just saying
I'll keep it open until all votes are in.
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BATTLE ONE
George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
more joyful
Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
good job Perry
Peter Gabriel - More than this
Gabriel is da king
Bob Seger - Still the Same
i like both
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down
guy's got definitely something to say
Steve Perry - Strung Out
more cheerful
Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
not bad Bryan in this one
Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
no contest here
NF - Motivated
not the best Lou's song
´Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Solsbury is just perfect song
George Harrison - Blow Away
this one is good
Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
better
Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Marvin wouldn't mind
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
What a voice range!
Lou Reed - Vicious
vicious is cool
George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
more joyful
Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
good job Perry
Peter Gabriel - More than this
Gabriel is da king
Bob Seger - Still the Same
i like both
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down
guy's got definitely something to say
Steve Perry - Strung Out
more cheerful
Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
not bad Bryan in this one
Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
no contest here
NF - Motivated
not the best Lou's song
´Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Solsbury is just perfect song
George Harrison - Blow Away
this one is good
Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
better
Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Marvin wouldn't mind
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
What a voice range!
Lou Reed - Vicious
vicious is cool
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NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie (For The Win)
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie (For The Win)
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
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NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
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BATTLE ONE
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace-That's an upset.
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie-I love Sherrie.
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this-Not a huge Adams fan, but I like some of his songs and that's one of them.
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link-I don't think I'll be voting against Seger; I love all the songs too much.
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good-Not familiar with either artist. So far so good, but I preferred the first song.
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out-I used to mess around with a girl who looked like Steve Perry. She didn't look like a dude.
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes-I've always disliked that second song.
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are-Think I'll be voting for both of these guys a lot.
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace-That's an upset.
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie-I love Sherrie.
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this-Not a huge Adams fan, but I like some of his songs and that's one of them.
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link-I don't think I'll be voting against Seger; I love all the songs too much.
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good-Not familiar with either artist. So far so good, but I preferred the first song.
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out-I used to mess around with a girl who looked like Steve Perry. She didn't look like a dude.
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes-I've always disliked that second song.
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are-Think I'll be voting for both of these guys a lot.
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NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are
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BATTLE ONE
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace just a fun, enjoyable song
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie actually rather hard call for these two
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this another hard one to vote on
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link Love Seger, but, I'll be doggone
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good really love the somber tones of Rag n Bone Man
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out gonna hafta go with Reed on this one
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You Don't remember this Adams song; pretty solid
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes This nearly went with Gabriel, always liked this song but Ocean had something a little more
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman Lou Reed, my man
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill this is like THE song when you talk about Gabriel
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away always loved this song
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness Gotta be honest, sunspot d@mn near took it
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain gotta go with Marvin
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet LOOOVE to watch her strut!
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are Rag n Bone Man has a great lil old gospel feel that I like
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace just a fun, enjoyable song
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie actually rather hard call for these two
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More than this another hard one to vote on
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone * Alt. Link Love Seger, but, I'll be doggone
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good really love the somber tones of Rag n Bone Man
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out gonna hafta go with Reed on this one
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You Don't remember this Adams song; pretty solid
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes This nearly went with Gabriel, always liked this song but Ocean had something a little more
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman Lou Reed, my man
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill this is like THE song when you talk about Gabriel
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away always loved this song
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness Gotta be honest, sunspot d@mn near took it
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain gotta go with Marvin
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet LOOOVE to watch her strut!
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are Rag n Bone Man has a great lil old gospel feel that I like
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If you look at the image in the video, (see the screenshot below). it has the album cover on the left side of the screen, and the right side of the screen has the song title, the artist's name, and the album title. Also, the uploader is usually either the artist's name or the music company's name with the word "Topic" after their name.
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If you look at the image in the video, (see the screenshot below). it has the album cover on the left side of the screen, and the right side of the screen has the song title, the artist's name, and the album title. Also, the uploader is usually either the artist's name or the music company's name with the word "Topic" after their name.
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BATTLE ONE
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More Than This
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone (Two great songs. It's a shame one of them has to go so early.)
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out (I love Steve Perry's voice, but I liked the Lou Reed song better than the Steve Perry song.)
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You (I liked the Frank Ocean song a lot until it got to the rap part at the end of the song. I like Bryan Adams, and I would have voted for most of his other songs over it, but I don't like that specific Bryan Adams song.)
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away (I liked both songs. I had to listen to them twice to decide which way to vote.)
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain (I might have voted for the Peter Gabriel song if it was up against a different song, but that Marvin Gaye song is one of his best songs.)
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are (I've never heard of Rag 'n' Bone Man before, but I like him a lot.)
On a side note, there were 30 songs in this set, and none of them were my noms. I knew the randomizer was bad sometimes, but I didn't think it was that bad.
NF - Notepad VS. George Harrison - Crackerbox Palace
George Harrison - This Song VS. Steve Perry - Oh Sherrie
Bryan Adams - Cuts Like a Knife VS. Peter Gabriel - More Than This
Bob Seger - Still the Same VS. Marvin Gaye - I'll Be Doggone (Two great songs. It's a shame one of them has to go so early.)
Rag 'n' Bone Man - Lay My Body Down VS. Frank Ocean - Swim Good
Lou Reed - Perfect Day VS. Steve Perry - Strung Out (I love Steve Perry's voice, but I liked the Lou Reed song better than the Steve Perry song.)
Frank Ocean - Golden Girl VS. Bryan Adams - The Only Thing that Looks Good on Me is You (I liked the Frank Ocean song a lot until it got to the rap part at the end of the song. I like Bryan Adams, and I would have voted for most of his other songs over it, but I don't like that specific Bryan Adams song.)
Frank Ocean - There Will Be Tears VS. Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes
NF - Motivated VS. Lou Reed - Strawman
NF - Therapy Session VS. Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill
Frank Ocean - We All Try VS. George Harrison - Blow Away (I liked both songs. I had to listen to them twice to decide which way to vote.)
Bob Seger - Sunspot Baby VS. Marvin Gaye - Can I Get A Witness
Marvin Gaye - What's Going On VS. Peter Gabriel - Red Rain (I might have voted for the Peter Gabriel song if it was up against a different song, but that Marvin Gaye song is one of his best songs.)
Bob Seger - Her Strut VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - Life In Her Yet
Lou Reed - Vicious VS. Rag 'n' Bone Man - As You Are (I've never heard of Rag 'n' Bone Man before, but I like him a lot.)
On a side note, there were 30 songs in this set, and none of them were my noms. I knew the randomizer was bad sometimes, but I didn't think it was that bad.
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