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Unforgiven is a good movie.

Halloween is not a film I was expecting to show up at this point. I really don't see why people love it at all. I imagine I'm in the minority but I didn't enjoy it at all.

Both Unforgiven and Halloween are in my category of (generally) well-regarded films I've only seen once and should watch again. I'm betting Halloween in particular would benefit from this.

Black Christmas

Keeping in mind that not all of us have had the pleasure of experiencing Halloween during its initial theatrical run (and have arguably had to weather decades of imitators and parodies and deconstructions in the meantime), I would say that I prefer The Texas Chain Saw Massacre as far as slashers go - there's a relentless pace and palpable atmosphere that the comparatively anodyne Halloween doesn't quite match. That's without mentioning how Black Christmas arguably came up with enough of the same tropes first (killer's POV, seasonal setting, primarily targeting young women, etc.) but didn't manage to have the same level of immediate success that Halloween did. Just some things that are easier to see with hindsight, though in the end it still comes down to preference.

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Black Christmas probably suffered from the title and setting.
Even back in the 70s, people were quick to dismiss a movie based on actors, directors, basic premise.

Black Christmas... horror, at Christmas? Sounds like niche a B-movie made for teenieboppers that relies on jump scares and gore.
Halloween... horror, during Halloween? Sounds like a well made and thought out horror, and is probably scary.

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Ya, English Bob is the entire film in miniature. Almost an anecdotal story of how the fates of Little Bill and Munny will play out. Because of this, it's one of the central pieces of the entire movie. How the glorification of violence, and how hollow it ultimately is, ripples through all of these main players in The Unforgiven.

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What's up with your door? That looks cool.

Also that CA-style of house (I assume it has a name) is among my favorites.

That's the screen door. I'm not sure about the name but I believe it's a Craftsman home.

That American Craftsman pre-WWII style is also popularly called California Bungalow.

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I see that this beats Halloween by a few years, but I honestly had never heard of it and had to go look it up. Is this worth watching for reasons *other* than comparing it to Halloween?

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I have seen both Halloween and Unforgiven.

Fair enough on all points re. Halloween. The one thing I'd take issue with is judging some of its tropes by *later* (and stale) entries in this genre. Just because a million movies did similar things *later* doesn't make the first few examples trite. I agree that it comes down to preference. I'm not a fan of gore, and I was not the type to see scary movies on the big screen back in the 1970s, so Halloween scared me in ways that worked really well.

The fact that it probably has lasted the longest of the other examples mentioned above here tells me that Carpenter clearly did something right.

Me too. I seen Halloween first run in the theater and didn't care much for it. I never liked slasher films. I also had only one horror film on my list and it's a masterpiece!

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I'd be okay with this

Hoping we picked the same film, but my gut says "no". Even though mine is a few decades old, it still holds up very well to this day.

Halloween was in my list. I will never not love that movie.

Both Halloween and Unforgiven were on my list.

Halloween > Black Christmas and it isn’t even close.

Margot Kidder, Keir Dullea, and Andrea Martin are all in it, so yes.