Ridley Scott , talks Alien Prequel

I know it was Tony Scott, that was the POINT! And Legend?!?! You, sir, can **** right off with that crap. That makes Alien look like Top Gun. Legend?

Had you said The Duellists, you might've had something. Top Gun's still better, but at least you'd have named a decent film.

Just because Legend was a poor man's fantasy doesn't mean Top Gun will ever equate to anything more than a dead possum getting poked at by illegal aliens

Sorry, its just an impulse thing. Ridley is the king.
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anyway no, I thumbed that down because you rate films based on expectation. I would never involve commercialisation with my overall enjoyment of a feature, especially since some films don't have hollywood backing their cause or any sort of commercialisation atoll. Its just not a good variable to consider in my opinion as its not compatible with all films, its like when I raised my eyebrow at the guy that said action and stunts. If your going to compare different movies, presumably you need to establish global variables to do so.

Expectation would never effect the scale of my enjoyment. If you thought a movie wasn't as good as you thought prior to seeing it, is it worse because you feel this way? How stupid. was fair in my opinion.

A while back in the shout box I claimed I only thumbed down Spam, and people were like huh, thats not what the negative rep thing is for. I now use thumbing down as a way of saying I disagree, but apparently thats unbeliavable offencive and warrants comments on my profile demmanding to know what my problem is.

How childish.

TNBG, get yourself over to the last film you saw in the theatre thread, there's someone who was looking forward to Robin Hood, but thought it so poor they feel asleep. Go neg rep crazy.

Robin Hood was **** mate. Looking forward to a film is fine, if it turns out to be rubbish thats too bad. Its the concept of saying its worse than a bad film because I thought it was gona be a good film thats the problem.

I know its hard, but think about it.

Heated discussions, I've missed all the fun!!!

(and this is just me)

Top Gun was a spoof of Hot Shot's

Tony Scott's best films are Man on Fire and The Last Boy Scout

Don't waste time trying to figure out why Legend was a bit naff it's simple.... Tom Cruise is in it

Alien is awesome

Aliens is Awesome with bigger nads

I enjoyed Blade Runner (deep breath) but at times it does border on pretentious s**te (ducks for cover)

Tony Scott made Domino (Keira Knightly was the lead)
Ridley Scott made Kingdom of Heaven (Orlando Bloom was the lead) what does this mean? Pirates of the Carribbean 1, 2, 3 and I'm gonna hazard a guess at 4, are/will be rubbish (end rant)

As for the Alien prequel, don't like the idea of it being in 3D, would be interesting to see the origins of the Aliens on the big screen

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I don't think that's what Dex was saying. If it was, then you're right, but what I think he was saying was that it was worse because he'd had high expectations. Not that it was worse than a bad film, (though I'd argue that I'd rather see a poor film I thought nothing of, than a film I was looking forward to that let me down) nor that it was of poorer quality because he thought it'd be better.

As for balls' post, I don't even know where to start with the wrongness of that.

I summed this up in the shoutbox. Saying "worse than bad" is just my way of putting it. What Dex is saying is that he believes the quality of say, a 90 minute feature can be degraded further because it didn't match up to your expectations. Once again the movie is as bad or as good as it it. It surely cant be worse than it is because you thought it was going to be good. Of course disappointment is a very strong emotion, but it should'nt get affiliated to the QUALITY of the film. Just the film itself. Aliens vs Predator was disappointing because it was ****, not more **** because I was disappointed. This is bloody obvious.

Thats baloney.

its like with Righteous Kill. If you are gonna cast Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro, then you best make a better movie than that crap. As the audience (and the studio markets accordingly) is Expecting the magic from HEAT.

now if Righteous Kill had starred Michael Ironside and Clancy Brown instead, and it arrived straight to DVD, it may have ok for what it was.

To say Expectation doesn't factor in is nonsense.

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I'm not saying expectation doesn't factor dude, I'm just saying expectation can lead to two things, disappointment or a pleasant surprise (if the films were better or worse than you thought) and neither of these things should be affiliated withe the actual QUALITY of the film.

"it may have ok for what it was" I difficult for me to understand your take on the english language but I assume you mean that a film can then become more acceptable because I didn't have a good cast, sort of the opposite of what I'm saying your saying?

So in addition to a big commercial feature disappointing you and getting slated further for that, you also feel that a small independent feature with a lower budget cast, or not such a defined cast for example is "ok for what it was".

I cannot express how wrong I feel your are without insulting your intelligence so I wont bother. I could be wrong, but I guess thats your fault for being able to type proper english. I mean I'm a big culprit for typos, spelling, but you can always understand what I'm saying.

Robin Hood was dissapointing as all hell.

lol damn straight it was. I was really gutted, I expected more from Ridley.

The film was terrible from 00:00:00 to 02:20:00 though, thats what I rate a film on, the film. My disappointment about failed potential was just something that soured my mouth, it doesn't change a single thing on the films 35mm film stock if you get me.