I don't think so.
Films about the US / Mexican border
The sequel to Sicario is worth a watch if you liked the first one.
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You don't think that I'm uncertain enough about Chigurh's nationality to add a question mark beside it? Well, good for you.
I thought the first one was good. The second unwatchable.
I'm thinking of films that touch on immigration / the damage done by drug cartels etc.
I’ve heard rumors of a third and would like to see that and the second one wasn’t a financial failure, so it very may well still happen
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I think that we should uncertain about him representing anything in particular (e.g., the violence of cartels). Chigurh is more of an attitude, a disposition toward life, an embodiment of a philosophy, than a representation of anything happening in 1980.
"In particular", this attitude, disposition, philosophical embodiment, et al, is a perfectly acceptable representation of the merciless cruelty of Sinaloa cartel violence. That Sinaloa didn't yet exist in 1980 is a non-issue, much as Chigurh's exact nationality is a non-issue.
If this is what it signifies for you, that's cool. A certain Mark Akenside wrote a poem titled The Pleasures of Imagination in 1744 has the line
Which fill'd himsell he rais'd his plastic arm.
In Country, he's an omen of a more brutal future of violence. McCarthy definitely had Sinaloa specifically in mind when he wrote The Counselor, and the bolito is definitely an instrument that isn't difficult to imagine Chigurh embracing. The philosophy that Chigurh embodies, dispassionate and severe under a disingenuous karmic guise, is identical to what The Counselor faces between Ruben Blades and a burned DVD.
If it works for you, that's cool. I just don't quite see the signification myself.
Was he targeting Sinola? Were the directors trying to comment on a particular cartel? I don't know.
Is the poem referring to a plastic arm in the sense of a polymer appendage?
It doesn't really matter. Anton Chigurh is a mythic evil, as Judge Holden is mythic. The macrocosm is human capacity for brutality. The microcosm, for Chigurh, is the senseless wages over 2 million dollars of drug money. Col. Kurtz is also mythic, does it matter whether Joseph Conrad had forseen the Viet Cong? No, all that matters is that this mythic evil applies to the cartels and the last 30 year cycle of border violence. Myth bridges the general with the particular.
Maybe it refers to someone overly satisfied with artificial grasping?
Maybe it refers to someone overly satisfied with artificial grasping?
That something applies to cartels does not mean that it specifically refers to cartels. Are we talking about what the character is about or how the character may be applied, if we so choose? If it is the former, cool. If it is the latter, I can only shrug and note that I disagree.
That something applies to cartels does not mean that it specifically refers to cartels.
Any suggestions for films set on the US / Mexico border? I've seen:
Frontera
Sin Nombre
The Golden Dream
Sicario
I'm thinking of films that touch on immigration / the damage done by drug cartels etc
Thanks
Frontera
Sin Nombre
The Golden Dream
Sicario
I'm thinking of films that touch on immigration / the damage done by drug cartels etc
Thanks
i dont wanna watch a movie if its overly preachy...i like movies that cover the topic indirectly. So is it a good thriller first foremost ? because on imdb it says adventure thriller...can this movie qualify as an adventure thriller ?
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Does the word "represent" imply an application or a reference? And is Chigurh a representation of specific cartels or of the ruthless violence associated with the worst of them? Which word was the object of representation in the actual sentence that I wrote and you quoted?
Chigur certainly represents the ruthlessness of the cartels, even if he is a Turkish (?) independent contractor.
Things got a bit muddled when you stated in reply
That Sinaloa didn't yet exist in 1980 is a non-issue, much as Chigurh's exact nationality is a non-issue.
Chigur certainly represents the ruthlessness of the Sinaloa.
At any rate, I don't think that Chighur narrowly represents the ruthlessness of cartels, the Sinaloa or any other tribe, but rather generally represents an embodiment of human violence. The word "certainly" is sticky point here, as it seems to indicate that the narrow reading is the "right" one (excluding other readings as being less warranted).
I will say, in agreement, however, that drug cartels have demonstrated a shocking thirst for violence which fits right in with Cormac's diagnosis of what ills the human condition.
Whatever, prof. Chigurh represents the ruthlessness, and he was an agent of cartel violence. He represents the horizon of violence that Sheriff Bell (and the Counselor) cannot fathom.
The second one certainly lacks compared to the first but
Soldado is pretty much spot on for that request. As a package the two films cover both sides of the op’s request. And no one had mentioned it yet.
I’ve heard rumors of a third and would like to see that and the second one wasn’t a financial failure, so it very may well still happen
Soldado is pretty much spot on for that request. As a package the two films cover both sides of the op’s request. And no one had mentioned it yet.
I’ve heard rumors of a third and would like to see that and the second one wasn’t a financial failure, so it very may well still happen
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is sin nombre thriller ? or topical drama ?
i dont wanna watch a movie if its overly preachy...i like movies that cover the topic indirectly. So is it a good thriller first foremost ? because on imdb it says adventure thriller...can this movie qualify as an adventure thriller ?
i dont wanna watch a movie if its overly preachy...i like movies that cover the topic indirectly. So is it a good thriller first foremost ? because on imdb it says adventure thriller...can this movie qualify as an adventure thriller ?
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If this is what it signifies for you, that's cool. A certain Mark Akenside wrote a poem titled The Pleasures of Imagination in 1744 has the line
To us, in 2021, a "plastic arm" may signify something different than it did in 1744. Is the poem referring to a plastic arm in the sense of a polymer appendage? In terms of function, we might argue that it now carries that signification for modern audiences, but this is a sort of narrow shade of meaning that say more about us than the poem which we are trying to understand (if we are tying to understand what it meant in its original context).
To us, in 2021, a "plastic arm" may signify something different than it did in 1744. Is the poem referring to a plastic arm in the sense of a polymer appendage? In terms of function, we might argue that it now carries that signification for modern audiences, but this is a sort of narrow shade of meaning that say more about us than the poem which we are trying to understand (if we are tying to understand what it meant in its original context).
'Identifying Features' (2021)
Directed by Fernanda Valadez
Directed by Fernanda Valadez
This definitely belongs here. Stunning film about a mother searching for her son, presumed dead, on the borderlands of Mexico. The cinematography is intoxicating. Beautiful images of the harsh landscape juxtaposed with the beauty of the plains, clouds and lakes, carefully and artfully stitched together. One of the best of the year.
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'Identifying Features' (2021)
Directed by Fernanda Valadez
Directed by Fernanda Valadez
This definitely belongs here. Stunning film about a mother searching for her son, presumed dead, on the borderlands of Mexico. The cinematography is intoxicating. Beautiful images of the harsh landscape juxtaposed with the beauty of the plains, clouds and lakes, carefully and artfully stitched together. One of the best of the year.
If you are still interested, there's a film from 1949 called Border Incident that you might check out.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041198/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041198/
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