General comment across the years of threads: Instead of just posting a title, please please explain why you feel that way. The spirit of these forums is discussion among fellow movie addicts...
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Well put. I guess you could say that as a writer he is overrated
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I mean I get what you're saying. I mostly just go with my perspective on things when discussing views. I mean I hate every Kubrick film I've seen although I recognize he's popular. I have no idea why though...
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Because everyone has different taste.
I like some Kubrick films and his A Clockwork Orange is a favorite. It's my personal taste in cinema.
I like some Kubrick films and his A Clockwork Orange is a favorite. It's my personal taste in cinema.
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Because everyone has different taste.
I like some Kubrick films and his A Clockwork Orange is a favorite. It's my personal taste in cinema.
I like some Kubrick films and his A Clockwork Orange is a favorite. It's my personal taste in cinema.
I've liked alot of Kubrick's films but it does seem like he's put onto one helluva high pedestal.
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I enjoy Lars Von Trier films. Some I love. He's a very controversial director and not everyone likes his films. I'm unique like everyone else. Just think if everyone liked the same exact things. Our lives would be boring.
I enjoy Pasolini's films. Again, not everyone does.
It's personal taste. I'm not right or wrong and neither is anyone else.
I enjoy Pasolini's films. Again, not everyone does.
It's personal taste. I'm not right or wrong and neither is anyone else.
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One of my favorite filmmakers is Kim Jee-woon, a Korean fellow with a small following in the West. I don't expect others to like him, although it's cool when people do. I enjoy Peckinpah's films too and I know he's not the most popular filmmaker. Maybe not hated but not totally popular. I don't think that's a bad thing. I like what I like and dislike what I dislike. That's about what I can do.
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...I can accept his [Kubrick] visual style is good. Other than that I can't stand his output. It's just not for me. Maybe that's why I don't like "overrated"; my taste is eclectic so me being the barometer is really farfetched.
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Karl Childers is an underated MoFo....author of this thread that currently has 1,769 replies.
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I feel this thread is getting a little bit too benign now that people are apologising for their personal likes and dislikes.
Let's try a plot twist.
What would be more frustrating? Someone whose opinion you value greatly:
1. says that a film you like is overrated
2. loves a film you think is overrated (and specifically, for the reason why they love it).
Let's try a plot twist.
What would be more frustrating? Someone whose opinion you value greatly:
1. says that a film you like is overrated
2. loves a film you think is overrated (and specifically, for the reason why they love it).
What would be more frustrating? Someone whose opinion you value greatly:
1. says that a film you like is overrated...I wouldn't care much if that was their honest opinion.
2. loves a film you think is overrated (and specifically, for the reason why they love it)...I wouldn't care at all as it's their choice.
1. says that a film you like is overrated...I wouldn't care much if that was their honest opinion.
2. loves a film you think is overrated (and specifically, for the reason why they love it)...I wouldn't care at all as it's their choice.
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I feel this thread is getting a little bit too benign now that people are apologising for their personal likes and dislikes.
Let's try a plot twist.
What would be more frustrating? Someone whose opinion you value greatly:
1. says that a film you like is overrated
2. loves a film you think is overrated (and specifically, for the reason why they love it).
Let's try a plot twist.
What would be more frustrating? Someone whose opinion you value greatly:
1. says that a film you like is overrated
2. loves a film you think is overrated (and specifically, for the reason why they love it).
I believe disagreeing with people makes for interesting discussion because it brings to light different views and perspectives about the same film that can enlighten each party.
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Back to over-rated movies, definitely Citizen Kane. It was slow and procedural, but after seeing it more than once, I got over my self flattery and credential-gathering and realized that it's a dreary fictional biopic about someone I didn't like and who was portrayed by that pompous, over-rated gas bag, AKA, Orson Welles.
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But equally meticulously slow?
In this case Uzak/Distant and Vive L'Amour. These aren't just 'dfferent', they are different and great.
Also Once Upon A Time in Anatolia.
The first 30 minutes of Je, Tu, Il, Elle.
Not to the same standard, but even Goodbye Dragon Inn.
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With Citizen Kane I've always felt the reason it's lauded is because of what Welles did when it came out and how innovative it was at the time. In 1941 it was all new. A lot of what he did was revolutionary and exciting. Now it's all been done so the novelty has worn off. I think the film is fine although I'll never laud it as the "greatest ever". I get why it is considered as such though.
To me, the memorable parts are all encapsulated in three short scenes. 1. Kane on his deathbed, uttering his final word, "Rosebud." 2. The famous deep focus shot of young Kane playing in the snow with his sled while, inside, his parents are bartering him away. 3. The final shot of the "Rosebud' brand sled being consumed by flames.
To me, the rest is showmanship of the "Hey ma, look at me, I'm making a movie" type. Of course, a pedant like me criticizing a genius like Welles. I will, then, be a toad
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I agree. I also have to admit that, having approached it in a film appreciation class knowing its reputation, I had perhaps a contrarian disposition to resist it.
To me, the memorable parts are all encapsulated in three short scenes. 1. Kane on his deathbed, uttering his final word, "Rosebud." 2. The famous deep focus shot of young Kane playing in the snow with his sled while, inside, his parents are bartering him away. 3. The final shot of the "Rosebud' brand sled being consumed by flames.
To me, the rest is showmanship of the "Hey ma, look at me, I'm making a movie" type. Of course, a pedant like me criticizing a genius like Welles. I will, then, be a toad
To me, the memorable parts are all encapsulated in three short scenes. 1. Kane on his deathbed, uttering his final word, "Rosebud." 2. The famous deep focus shot of young Kane playing in the snow with his sled while, inside, his parents are bartering him away. 3. The final shot of the "Rosebud' brand sled being consumed by flames.
To me, the rest is showmanship of the "Hey ma, look at me, I'm making a movie" type. Of course, a pedant like me criticizing a genius like Welles. I will, then, be a toad
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One of my favorite filmmakers is Kim Jee-woon, a Korean fellow with a small following in the West. I don't expect others to like him, although it's cool when people do.
What's not to like?
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Only know his "The Good the Bad the Weird, " which would make my top 20 or so list. I first saw it on a pirated DVD without subtitles, and was still able to follow the action. Caught up with it later with full subtitles and enjoyed the wit as well. Quite the remarkable lineup with those three male leads, like having Nicolas Cage (Song Kang-ho), Brad Pitt (Lee Byung-hun), and Chris Evans (Jung Woo-sung) all in the same movie.
What's not to like?
What's not to like?
Yeah I worded my earlier post poorly; I should have said I don't expect people to be familiar with him. Usually if I bring up a Korean filmmaker here in the States, no one has a clue who I mean. I brought up Bong Joon-ho, he did Parasite, at the local amateur live theatre, and no one had any idea who that is. Most people I know here are scant on knowledge of Japanese filmmakers as well.
On the flip side, I sometimes use the word "underrated", although I use it sparingly. My favorite horror movie is Noroi, which is a Japanese pseudo-documentary about an obscure religion and a fictional TV show's investigation into some bizarre occurrences involving it. Noroi isn't overly popular, while I still love it, so I unabashedly call it "underrated". I think it's way better than the credit the populace gives it. Again, that's my opinion, and I stand firmly by it. It's excellent. I love the style and the flow and the nuances and the suspense. It's awesome. Of course the ending nearly giving me a heart attack certainly influenced my opinion of the film, and in a good way.
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Citizen Kane is a movie filled with inherently boring scenes. It looks great, and the performances are good, but ultimately it's a story about a wealthy dull jerk that had weird last words.
I also think the first Godfather is overrated. It's a very good movie, but people put it on such a high pedestal. Too many scenes don't work for me.
Godfather 2, on the other hand, is fantastic. Possibly the best crime-drama ever.
I also think the first Godfather is overrated. It's a very good movie, but people put it on such a high pedestal. Too many scenes don't work for me.
Godfather 2, on the other hand, is fantastic. Possibly the best crime-drama ever.
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