A certain type of time travel movies

I think it's brilliant in every way.
Would love to see a feature length remake!

I suppose so, although I’d be hard pressed to think of who could tackle that. Doesn’t help that in my mind it’s still firmly a French-language undertaking (just the overall vibe), so that leaves Villeneuve… which, to be fair, it does sound like something early Villeneuve could have done, but surely not post-Dune.

I watched the proper version and also one with an English narration (I have only rudimentary French).
The English one was surprisingly good.
But regardless, I would certainly agree that it would certainly be very difficult indeed for anybody to recreate the same magic and brilliance as that. I am also unsure whether a feature length would be possible. I did a back of a fag packet calculation that the original probably had something in the order of 600 images, so not an inordinate amount, but perhaps it might be difficult to sustain the impact/interest over a full length. I'm sure it could be done in a traditional moving images style, but I am particularly interested in a longer version with the still image method which is integral to the film.
Eggers loves his images, and doing something a bit different. Maybe a candidate?

So they say. It's also living proof that the past can be changed, not only from the future but ultimately all the way back from the past itself by having seemingly anyone who watches it seeing what was previously the ultimate time travel movie and quite possibly the best movie ever now all of a sudden as just a tacky ripoff. Well I for one will abstain from attempting any such risk of rocking the spacetime continuum.

rip off of what?

Supposedly 12 Monkeys is a La Jetee ripoff

Aha, sorry my misunderstanding.

Although I'd add that there's a line imo between something being inspired by something, and something ripping something off!

Timecrimes may have been trashy (just a perfectly normal woman with large breasts, going for a bike ride without a bra on, as women do), but I loved the performance from its main character, and several of the aspects of its version of Time travel.

Time travel, regardless of whether we have an open or closed loop, will exhibit causal paradoxes, so we can only demand so much logical coherence from these stories.

At a formal level, closed loop time travel stories are tragedies because they are fatalistic by nature. No matter what the harbinger or oracle tell the protagonist, his fate is sealed. Thus, possessing knowledge in a closed loop dooms you to be an ineffectual Cassandra.

The open loop allows for growth, change, and learning. Time travel for profit $$$ and character growth.

The type of time travel you invoke probably depends on the type of story you want to tell.

Yeah I get that. The joke was more about how a movie seem to magically lose value if it's discovered that it's inspired by something else, which then seem to automatically take favored place.

A bit like how Robert Johnson is widely held as the inventor of modern blues. I recognize his talent and rightfully strong influence but it doesn't really take anything away for me from the kind of blues I like that came way later. Johnson may well have been the OG but it doesn't mean his music is the most interesting within its genre 90 years later.

To be clear I haven't seen La Jetee, meaning I have to admit at least the theoretical possibility of it being better than 12 Monkeys although I have my strong doubts, particularly about it replacing it or somehow stripping it of its artistic relevance, brilliant as I find it.

I understand La Jetee is a short movie. Meaning the commitment isn't exactly colossal. I should absolutely give it a try and I will. I should probably be more curious about it too though than what's actually the case but for some reason I'm not. Maybe unconsciously I'm afraid it will change my perspective to a degree that I'll start praising directors like Roman Polanski, Stanley Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola or what have you. The horror!

Anyway, carry on

I've completely missed the part where someone has said that La Jetee has stripped any other film of its artistic brilliance. Oh well. Incidentally, it's only 28 minutes so...

Scrapper Blackwell came before Robert Johnson I believe btw!

This was 1929:

And I didn't say anyone did. Here. The issue has been discussed before elsewhere though.

Cool. The people who hold Robert Johnson as the father of blues stand corrected

I mean, 12 Monkeys is clearly based on La Jetee, but they are very different films. If I could only watch one of them, I'd pick La Jetee, but I was only every lukewarm on 12 Monkeys (which is the film I saw first out of the two).

The way it deals with time travel is great, but I couldn't get over

I think that the same interesting take on time travel can be found in The Infinite Two Minutes (hat tip to @Torgo I think?) without the ick factor.

I enjoyed this one very much too.

Have you seen the movie Totally Killer, It's a good time travel slasher, if your into the horror comedy stuff, you should give it a go

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Nope, not seen this. For the most part, I don’t like horror comedy but I did love Happy Death Day and don’t mind slashers, so I’ll give it a try (especially as it’s got time travel!) Thank you for the rec!

I loved Happy Death Day too and the sequel also.

Will check it out. Thanks for the tip.
In terms of low budget films is it better or worse then Coherence? Or difficult to say?

No one's mentioned Somewhere in Time, a 1980 Christopher Reeve movie, it's probably the most non science fiction time travel you can get.



Groundhog day, Palm Springs and Hot tub time machine to follow the comedy genre.


I'd also say The Tomorrow War and the Edge of Tomorrow being of the best special effects current sci-fi movies. Of course the classic Back to the Future.

I still don't quite get the mechanism in that one. The idea is "get comfy and think about being sometime else" and "Poof!"?