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Doesn't she still edit everything on film? Something like a moviola? Or is that Spielberg's editor?


No, Thelma went from the old flatbed style towards digital back with Casino (1995). HERE is a nice little interview with Thelma from Time Out London around the time of The Departed's release where she talks about Marty and Michael Powell.

Pimpy, you're probably thinking about Michael Kahn, who works with Spielberg and does indeed still prefer the Moviola. Kahn has been nominated for seven Oscars and won three (Raiders of the Lost Ark, Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan).
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You see, guys, Holds and I are the people who seem to be the most obsessed with Oscar around here. We have totally bought into film, Frank Capra, the Academy honoring itself, etc. It's not that we think they know more or less about movies, it's that they somehow "officially" represent movies which makes us care more about what they think more than others do. At least I believe that to be true. It is for me, and Holden seems to namedrop the Academy even more than I do.
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This is a wine commercial, but damn if it isn't so well done I may have to go and buy a bottle. Any fan of Scorsese and/or Alfred Hitchcock must take a look. Very fun, very clever. Check out the little details, like Thornhill's handkerchief. Cameo by Thelma Schoonmaker too. Great stuff!

And while not the same level of ambition, also fun: Scorsese's AmEx "birthday party" commercial from a while back
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Well, I'm pretty new here so I thought I'd start off with what could be a pretty popular topic. Easily one of the greatest directors ever, what are your 5 favorite films ever directed by Martin Scorsese?

In order I'd say:

Goodfellas
Gangs of New York
Raging Bull
The Departed
Casino


Deciding between Casino and Taxi Driver was hard, but I enjoyed Casino just a bit more. I'm excited to see what everyone's favorites are.



01. The Departed
02. Raging Bull
03. Taxi Driver
04. Goodfellas
05. Mean Streets

Casino just misses.



Taxi Driver
Goodfellas
Raging Bull
Mean Streets
The Aviator
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Can't say I'd put The Departed or Gangs of New York at the top of my list, but I definitely agree that GoodFellas is the best of the best.


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This is a very informative thread. I'll have to admit that I haven't seen many of his films . . . yet! I've copy/pasted your list, Holden, and will start adding them to my Netflix. For now, and I'm not sure how much these will change, but my favorites are After Hours, and Cape Fear.



Taxi Driver
Raging Bull
The Departed
Goodfellas
Gangs Of New York

Those are my favorites from him, but I've got to admit that I didn't really like Casino that much at all.



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These are the ones I've seen, in order from best to worst.

Goodfellas
Taxi Driver
Raging Bull
The Last Waltz
After Hours
The Last Temptation of Christ
The King of Comedy
Mean Streets
Casino
Gangs of New York
The Departed
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He's one of my favorite directors along with Kubrick and Tarantino. Surely the best storyteller ever though in terms of directors. My top 5 films of him that i've seen are

1. Goodfellas
2. Raging Bull
3. Casino
4. Taxi Driver
5. The Departed



My top 10 Scorsese films are...

01. Taxi Driver (1976)
02. Raging Bull (1980)
03. The Aviator (2004)
04. GoodFellas (1990)
05. The Departed (2006)
06. Mean Streets (1973)
07. Gangs of New York (2002)
08. Casino (1995)
09. The King of Comedy (1983)
10. The Last Temptation of Christ (1988)
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Shutter Island

Scorsese's first film after the Oscar-winning The Departed over three years ago, Shutter Island is his most deliberate foray into a genre picture since Cape Fear (1991), and like that project will likely divide audiences and have critics and fans asking why a director of Marty's stature and accomplishment is toiling in such material to begin with? Regardless of all that, it is a fun ride.

Set in the mid 1950s on a stormy island off the coast of Massachusetts that houses an elaborate hospital for the criminally insane, we meet Teddy Daniels (Leo DiCaprio), a U.S. Marshall assigned to look into a mysterious disappearance of a patient. He and his partner (Mark Ruffalo) sense ominous goings on before they've even set foot on the grounds, and once they meet the head of the institution, Dr. Cawley (Ben Kingsley), as well as the guards, nurses and other doctors they quickly begin forming conspiracy theories, and those theories seem to be backed up by the clues they find. With a rogues gallery of supporting players including Ted Levine (Silence fo the Lambs, "Monk"), John Carroll Lynch (Zodiac, Fargo), Elias Koteas (The Thin Red Line, The Prophecy), Jackie Earle Haley (Little Children, The Watchmen), Patricia Clarkson (The Station Agent, The Dead Pool) and the legendary Max von Sydow, it does have a feeling in the casting like an old Warner Bros. crime picture from the '40s, full of interesting faces and character actors galore.

It's impossible to talk in much more detail about Shutter Island without giving away its various twists and turns. The main twist can be deduced by just about anybody who has seen the trailer, I reckon, but there are layers and secondary turns in the plot beyond that basic, obvious guess of what's going on in the narrative. I knew the fuller depths of the twists before seeing the movie, not because I read the source novel by Dennis Lehane (Mystic River, Gone Baby Gone) but because I had read the graphic novel adaptation by Christian De Metter. But whether you know any or every twist or go in with virgin expectations, the movie is very well constructed and of course crafted by a master. Even more than his version of Cape Fear, this is a movie about movies, really, and as Scorsese happily relishes the conventions and milieu of the thriller and mystery genres you know he has Val Lewton and Hitchcock and Edgar G. Ulmer and Sam Fuller informing his bite at a similar cinematic apple, though unlike a contemporary such as DePalma or a sycophant like Tarantino, Scorsese never lets his many filmic influences become homages or identifiable recreations on the screen, though they are connections that surely inform his direction and editorial choices.

Having known all the twists and turns before hand, I was able to enjoy Shelter Island the way the unfamiliar will only get on a second or third viewing, so while I can't say exactly how successfully it shades its secrets if you knew nothing other than the title, deconstructing it with foreknowledge it does adhere to an internal logic and plays fair, in that sense, while mischievously and stylishly keeping just about every clue to the truth in plain sight. The actors are uniformly good, and for me as someone who didn't really have much use for the young Leonardo he has certainly hit his stride in these four collaborations so far with Scorsese (Gangs of New York, The Aviator, The Departed). DiCaprio's work is the lynchpin of the entire movie, and if it has any kind of emotional pay-off it isn't because of the expertly imagined shadowy suspense sequences and oozing style, it is just about all due to Leo, especially in the final reel as the various "truths" are brought to full light.

As a piece of technical filmmaking, of course Scorsese and company flawlessly concoct a visually arresting and layered movie. Re-teaming with the great cinematographer Robert Richardson for a fifth time (Casino, Bringing Out the Dead, The Aviator, Shine a Light), the material really allows them to have fun creating a stylized look, and the same goes for Dante Ferretti's production design and all the other various departments. And of course it's all woven together by Scorsese and longtime collaborator Thelma Schoonmaker in the editing room.

When you put Shutter Island in the context of Scorsese's own work, obviously it's a different animal than Raging Bull, Taxi Driver, GoodFellas and his most celebrated films. But judging it as a thriller with a twist, it most definitely delivers. I do love the last line, but as it sums up the theme and sort of gives away the twists I won't repeat it without a spoiler tag...

WARNING: "Shutter Island" spoilers below
"What's worse? To live as a monster or die as a hero?"

GRADE: B+



When Scorsese is good, he's great, like with Raging Bull and Mean Streets, but when he's bad he turns out stinkers like New York, New York and Gangs of New York (maybe he should stay away from New York titles; they seem unlucky for him). Goodfellas was okay, but I'm just not as crazy about it as most folks in this forum (So sue me!). Casino was okay but dragged in spots. The Aviator was forgetable except for the actress mimicing Katherine Hepburn's accent. Otherwise, they managed to make Howard Hughes Jr. boring. Guess I like him best (but not always) when he's working with De Niro and least when he's working with DiCaprio, maybe because DiCaprio never looks like he's ever rubbed up against real life. Which makes Shutter Island very iffy for me, despite Pike's well done review.

On the other hand, I really liked that photography commercial Scorsese made where after looking at the drugstore prints, he decides to reshoot his nephew's birthday party because "Where's the drama? What was I thinking?"



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Guess I like him best (but not always) when he's working with De Niro and least when he's working with DiCaprio, maybe because DiCaprio never looks like he's ever rubbed up against real life.
There is some truth to this. DiCaprio might be better off playing the handsome leading man or ,as he does in Catch Me If You Can, a character who always seem to float above the fray. He was excellent in character roles that called for a young actor. He was quite good in The Basketball Diaries and he even outshone Johnny Depp in What's Eating Gilbert Grape. But beauty in a young character actor is not a handicap. There are very few actors that can play against there physical type successfully, the phenomenal Johnny Depp comes to mind.
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I disagree with the notion that DiCaprio doesn't look like he's ever "rubbed up against real life." I think he does at least a decent job of it in all of his roles. Have you seen Blood Diamond or Revolutionary Road? I found him very convincing in both.



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I concede your argument Miss Vicky, but I believe rufnek has the right of it in when he objects to Scorceses' miscasting of DiCaprio as a hard-boiled detective. The Blood Diamond role is suitable for a character actor or a leading man type. The Revolutionary Road role is definitely a leading man role. But one expects someone with trouble mapped out on their face ala Robert DeNiro, in some roles. As I said, there is some truth to what rufnek said but not the whole truth.