is communism a failed ideology

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Do you believe communism has potential or do you believe it is a total fail. And if you do believe it has potential do you believe it is the best system.


Personally I think it has potential especially if in the future jobs done by computers/machines led to high unemployment calling for a possible communist system.



Yes, it has failed.

I don't think it has potential, but let's say for the sake of argument it did: what real value is there in a system's potential if, when you fail to do it the right way, millions of people die? That kinda seems like a wildly unjustifiable risk even if you think, through pure speculation and contra all available evidence, that it could theoretically work.

And people have been predicting mass unemployment because of technology for hundreds of years.



Yes, it has failed.

I don't think it has potential, but let's say for the sake of argument it did: what real value is there in a system's potential if, when you fail to do it the right way, millions of people die? That kinda seems like a wildly unjustifiable risk even if you think, via pure speculative and contra all available evidence, that it could theoretically work.

And people have been predicting mass unemployment because of technology for hundreds of years.


I guess what im referring to is more akin to Fully automated luxury communism, a system where nearly everything is automated allowing for easy living and universal wages. Do you believe these types of more futuristic communism have potential.



I'm quite far on the left economically but I still consider communism a failure. It's totalitarian system and they never end up good.

Obviously more and more jobs will be automated (some will be replaced by new jobs but not all) and we need a solid social security network but, in my opinion, that has nothing to do with communism. People need ownership of their things (though capitalism and technology are working hard to remove it), they need freedom to make their own choices and they need a chance to reach income levels higher than social security (in other words we need potential rewards for hard work / talent).



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There never really were any Communist countries. Merely Socialist countries. And Socialism is supposed to be a transitional phase during which the country evolves into Communism. The problem is: This evolution never finishes.

Communism is an utopia good for these pretentious "I'm a Marxist" kids, and French intellectuals living far from countries in which the socialist ideology has been thoroughly vaccinated. I imagine if you profess an ideology that endeavors to start a revolution (which is an act of violence in and of itself) just "for a greater good", you need a good excuse that is not just some Marxist dialectics you read in The Communist Manifesto, or heard in Castro's speech.

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I guess what im referring to is more akin to Fully automated luxury communism, a system where nearly everything is automated allowing for easy living and universal wages. Do you believe these types of more futuristic communism have potential.
I consider the idea of a fully automated luxury society of any kind to be essentially fantasy (for one reason or another), without even getting to what kind of government might make purely theoretical sense under it.

If we ever get to that point, though, I'm pretty sure it'll be through mostly free markets, and if that's the case it'll feel pretty weird to say "hey, this thing that got us here, let's pull a total 180." More likely we'd just ramp up essential services.

Anyway, if Communism can only work under such extreme circumstances, I'm not sure I'd say that gives it potential, since the premise here is that everything in society is so abundant that any system might "work" in some sense. But I think of this as a thought experiment more than a question that'll ever apply to reality.