The MoFo Top 100 of the 2010s Countdown

I'm honored my review of Get Out got a mention. That being said, the fact that it made it this far is kinda shocking and a bit absurd. I mean, where the hell was The Babadook, The Conjuring or Don't Breathe? Far more shining examples of 2010's horror if you ask me.

I really just want you all angry and confused the whole time.

The Hateful Eight over Django?

It's a better movie.
Django is very stylised, and yes, it's a fantastic movie (my #10)... but 8 has that crafted screenplay that throws back to QT's older style of non-linear storytelling that adds to the unfolding of the plot points.
It also plays put like a stage play matinée with voice-overs and even the photography.

How is it surprising? Get Out has been the horror film ever since it came out (almost to a fault). The only horror film to crack the Sight and Sound 100 (and one of four 2010s films as well), plus it won an Oscar. More importantly, audiences like it as well. It's a genuinely transcendent piece of work compared to stuff like The Conjuring or Don't Breathe.

Still beats the hell out of Django Unchained, though. Stuff like Calvin's phrenology monologue is a better example of overwritten/overacted Tarantino than anything in Hateful Eight.

Wrt the S&S, unless you meant 2010's horror movies, factual correction that The Shining and Psycho both cracked the critics top 100. If you go over to the director's poll, Salo and Jaws were both in there, I believe.

Related to in terms of audiences connecting with, back when the subject of religious horror peaked with The Exorcist in the Poltergeist vs Exorcist thread (I think), the box office popularity of The Exorcist came up and how that reflected people's interest in the subject which they no longer seem to take seriously. It crossed my mind, but didn't think of saying, it is interesting that the most recent example of a horror movie getting that type of mass cultural appeal is Get Out, some of which feels like it was due just to when it came out (this can be true of a lot of blockbusters). Like, I wonder if it came out a year or two earlier how it would have fared box office-wise (which is a little interesting to think about since it was conceived and talking about that world, that existed only a couple of years earlier).

Or maybe my brain is way off on thinking about this counter-factual.

The Hateful Eight (Quentin Tarantino, 2015)



So I was going to post this rating with half a star less, but I have seen it a few times now and I do think this is a masterpiece. I've talked to Cobpyth about this a few times and we both love it. When I first saw it I was unsure what to think of it in terms of where it would fit into my rankings of Tarantino's filmography, but it has to be right up there near the top, on every viewing I have thought more of it.

First viewing, more focused on plot. The first hour and a half is excellent in terms of character writing, all we know about what these characters is what they say, but we don't trust anyone. I honestly had no idea what on earth was going to happen, but I loved watching it. I won't go talk about the plot really because the less you know the better.

Performances are all superb, Kurt Russell and Michael Madsen are probably the most "standard", but they do their parts well. Tim Roth is f*cking hilarious (so is Mexican Bob) and if it was Waltz in the role he would have an Oscar coming his way again, he has so many great lines "It sure ain't Buster", "Good luck mate" etc., Jennifer Jason Leigh is perfect, her eyes are haunting, so ugly yet there's something hypnotic about her, she nails the psychopathic role without ever having to push it too far. Cobpyth mentioned to me about how good Dern is, at first I thought his performance was quiet a straightforward grumpy old man with not much to say, but repeat viewings and closer attention reveal to me some fantastic acting, the desperation and cutting-ness of his voice, the desperation in his eyes.

The Walton Goggins and Samuel L. Jackson relationship is great. Tarantino really knows how to create great relationships. There are so many moments that I think remind us of similar moments in his other films, we still have similar themes and ideas of different sides yet the moral structure that hold things together, justice, the law, honour, respect, etc.

The soundtrack, superb. Subtle at times, but always really effective, especially in some of the more claustrophobic and/or tense moments. The very final song as the credits it is a fantastic choice. The whole final scene is absolutely perfect, almost brought atears to my eyes all three times. I don't get the complaints about Tarantino being racist, sexist, whatever... to me his characters maybe, but the underlying message is one of progress and empowerment, but I don't want to get too involved in politics.

I could go on and on, there's a lot to talk about, but most of it would be ramblings and I don't want to discuss certain parts too much because of spoilers, but I've had some really great chats with Cobpyth about the film so far.

I can understand why people dislike this maybe. I think certain people go in to the film looking to come out disappointing, but I also think the films different in that there's no clear hero (like Django), it's very dark and nihilistic at times, perhaps has some of Tarantino's most shocking scenes, but I really think that these aren't weaknesses. Maybe he did make it more deliberately f*cked up and grim, maybe some of the scenes are a bit OTT, but I could have watched this for hours more, the writing is great, II think this might be one of Quentin Tarantino's most personal and political film, there's so much going on underneath, the whole thing feels maybe it's like he's trying to say "f*ck you America", I definitely think there's a lot of analysis going on in terms of law, race etc. definitely complex.

Anyway, ramblings over, I hope people enjoy the film. Maybe watch it a couple of times if you weren't sure about the first viewing, I think expectations can be misleading, especially in mysteries. I loved it the first time, enjoyed and appreciated even more on the next two viewings

It's 100% serious.



I don't know if he was that likeable. I think the tale Mannix told about him burning all those people, and the general impression that he just signed up to war to kill white-folks meant that although being the entertaining and one of the characters we supported the most (also being the underdog in the whole situation because he's black), we could never like him too much. His disdain for white confederates and tales in the stagecoach about people coming to find him meant I thought the story fitted well, especially with what he was trying to achieve, Smithers was a despicable man too which meant we didn't have to feel too sorry for him.

Wee!
The Hateful Eight was my, erm, #8.

I love The Hateful Eight and it was appropriately 8th place on my ballot.

The Hateful Eight was my #7.

Yeah, there's no body mutilation in it