i guess it's impossible to buy a non-smart tv today?

maybe refurbished

Have you thought about buying a smart TV and just not connecting it to the internet?

my tv service is by internet. i just wanted a small tv for a firestick

What would BE a non-smart TV and why would you want it. The smart chips on every TV sold today cost a few bucks and, production lines being what they are, you'd have to custom make the thing....or you can just use it as a monitor and ignore all that smart-ness. That's what I do. Every damn other piece of electronics in the house, including my kitchen blender and the weed wacker, is smart, so why fight it.

I do know of an antiques shop where you can buy an old, glass-tube TV, complete with a non-remote, clunky channel selector and rabbit ears.

I can't speak for hownos, but I also don't want a SmartTV. It's been documented that many of our smart devices 'spy' on us. I go to lengths not to let my computer or phone or car spy on me. I don't need the manufacturers of a SmartTV knowing what I watch or that my movie came from that web site in Russia

I resisted a smart tv for a long time (I used a Roku device instead), but I finally succumbed a couple years ago because, as you say, they pretty much are all smart tvs these days. However if you go to a big electronics retailer website and search by lowest price you should find something - https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/categor...priceLowToHigh

You're going to have to cut yourself off from all digital gadgets if you want the illusion of privacy. Every credit card, debit card, supermarket discount card, as well as your ISP, cable provider and cell phone provider can spy on you any time they want because there's no way to send web pages, movies or whatever to you without knowing your IP address and that's you.

The good thing is that there is SO much digital info on all of us that it's just too much to be a danger. Privacy is extinct and your TV is the least of your worries.

If you really want to buy a non-smart TV, try looking in thrift shops, at flea markets, moving sales, tag sales, and garage sales. Just make sure you test it so you know that it works before you buy it.

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There are a lot of steps one can take to fight back and maintain digital privacy. There are organizations dedicated to that cause. The best known is Electronic Frontier Foundation. Among other things the EFF were on the vanguard when Apple wanted to introduce onboard scanning on Iphones when images were being uploaded to Apple's cloud storage. That was a huge violation of personal rights and was ripe for governments to abuse the backdoor scanning, especially in places like China. But enough people stood up and fought back and Apple backed off on their onboard scanning https://www.wired.com/story/apple-ph...fety-messages/

VPNs like Private Internet Access which doesn't keep connection records stops one's ISP from knowing what you're doing. Phones, I rooted a Google Pixel phone and installed the GrapheneOS operating system on it, I'm not tracked on my phone. This is why I won't buy a new vehicle,Your Car is Spying on You: How Automakers Secretly Sell Your and I can't afford one

Nothing is 100 percent, but I'm not rolling over and letting corporations and organizations have easy access to everything I do electronically. When it comes to SmartTVs even the FBI recommends steps to protect yourself: https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-...nooping-on-you (and no I don't think people should throw away their SmartTVs). It's like the civil rights movement of the 1960s one can be complacence or fight it tooth and nail. I'm not ready for 1984 yet.

Buy a monitor..

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i don’t see myself buying a new TV anytime soon. the 60” i fixed for cheap thankfully has HDR so i shouldn’t need an upgrade for a long while.

but i got the 50” plasma waiting in the wings

but…if i did get a new TV it ain’t getting connected to the internet

i guess i could get a 32 inch monitor. as long as it has hdmi, firestick should work

[quote=John McClane;2489600....if i did get a new TV it ain’t getting connected to the internet[/quote]

I know why I don't what a SmartTV but why do you both not want a SmartTV?

for me it's just easier with the firesticks and roku i use.

it’s an unnecessary complexity. i don’t understand the need to put a network card and ARM processor in everything. it’s no wonder code has gotten so bad that damn near every update breaks something new. you just end up chasing rabbits.

take my speaker bar for instance…it needs to connect to the wifi for updates but i don’t think it even gets updates anymore but if you don’t connect it to wifi it’ll do some really weird stuff. that is the type of bugs i’m trying to avoid

Unless you're only using it to watch blu-rays or using it for gaming consoles, the only way to use anything on a smart tv is by the internet unless you have cable

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That's not quite accurate.

My smart TV is not connected to the Internet, yet I can use my AppleTV set, my disc players, and the over-the-air antenna for local channels

I think they are talking about connecting an internet-connected device to the smart TV.

So you get a smart TV, buy a Roku (or whatever), and then the Roku is what you connect to the internet. That way you're just treating the smart TV as a glorified monitor.

A "glorified monitor" that doesn't spy on me and has 3D capability