Mr Minio's Top 185 Films aka I bet you haven't seen it!

Not sure why this has turned into a discussion about what 12 year olds like because it's very clear that's not what I was talking about.

You said "It's a movie that's more adequate for 6th graders than adults". So, more adequate for children than adults. Not that 12 year olds would like it.

Of course they would like it!

Anyway, not going to continue too much. This comment sums up the issue here:

A silly movie you love = conscious of silliness and incredibly smart. Silly movie lots of other people love = silly drama not conscious of silliness.

I mean, did you see the octopus eating scene???

Yup, he's 100% right - on an issue that wasn't being discussed. 12 year olds would like Pulp Fiction too but that doesn't suddenly make it a kids movie

Apparently that was a real live Octopus

That was not my intention. I don't think one could interpret that I said that there are some movies targeted for people under 18 that contain a lot of sex and violence, so they are rated R but the makers expect people under 18 to watch them. Of course, there are some R rated movies made for people over 18.

I also agree that children are too exposed to violence these days but that's a fact: I watched City of God when I was 13 in my school because the teacher showed that movie to us.

I don't have wife, so I have to strongly react when somebody says something about my favourite movie. xD

Wow. Oldboy next to films like these is highly inappropriate. Battle Royale and Saw were good too (at least the first part for the latter), but Hostel was a pretty bad movie. I don't know why you underestimate Oldboy's story. It's much more complex than the plots in movies you listed. I haven't seen PMMM, but given its length it may tell much more complex and developed story due to its length, which doesn't change the fact that Oldboy is multi-layered and much more wise than you may except.

Oldboy's violent scenes derive from i.e. Tarantino among others and they are there not just for the sake, but are some kind of a counterbalance to psychological aspects of the plot such as Oedipus complex. They're completely deliberate.


As for my top I decided to write some longer anecdotes being just me mumbling about how I found such films and how I liked them etc. So, here we go:
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Look, I'm not judging you - after all, I'm posting here myself, but maybe, just maybe, if you spent less time here and more time watching films, maybe, and I stress, maybe your taste would be of some value. Just a thought, ya know.

Yeah, wonder if we'll see Josh Brolin doing that in the remake ...

BTW, for anyone who is interested, the light & shade that is, to me, very obvious in Oldboy is quite common in Korean movies - and exists but is less obvious in other Asian movies.

To me it's very much an aspect of many Asian cultures. Their food is often a balance of flavours - salt and sugar, chilli & coconut, etc. Same with many Asian religions - everything in life is a balance.

In Park's movies there is always a balance between darkness and light. Kim Ki Duk is another - he made the stunningly beautiful Spring, Summer ... but is often criticised for his movies being too violent. The Isle again is a beautiful movie with an occasionally tender love story involving a mute girl - and then there is the genital mutilation scene ...

Movies from China, Hong Kong & Taiwan tend to have a lot of light and shade but it is depicted in a less extreme manner that in Korean movies.

Diamonds of the Night is a great film!

I see.

Yeah, Oldboy's plot is quite complex and I agree it's a better movie than the other 3 I have listed, but it's similar in the sense that these 4 movies were made for an young audience in mind. The 40-50-60 year olds weren't the ones for which these movies were made, they appeal more to people from 13-25 age bracket.

The Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover is also another movie that I would consider more appropriate for an young audience than the 40-60 year old demographic. It's a very good movie though, I rate it as a 4/5 movie. Aguirre is a 5/5 movie, certainly a 1st rate classic.

I was hard on it earlier, I actually rate it as a movie and it almost made my top 200. But it's like Kill Bill in being a movie that a 20 year old will probably enjoy more than a 50 year old. That also applies to many of my favorite movies.

I think that The Tree of Life is a great film too, although unfortunately is seems to be a movie people love to hate around here.

Blade Runner and Aguirre are great too, and I recently saw The Cook, the Thief, his Wife & her Lover and I agree it's a fantastic film

I found it horrible. But it's a movie that divides audiences.

I don't really thing the movies, besides animated ones and erotic/porn, are made for target audience only. Look at animation films even, some of them are for adults. The fact kids watch the stuff they shouldn't doesn't mean the stuff was made especially for them.

I'm still struggling to work out whether I've seen any of these films. Touche with your initial question Mr Minio. Have I seen any? Maybe not.

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You've seen Shutter Island and Drive haven't you? They were on the list early on So maybe 2

Inland Empire is awesome, haven't seen Sans Soleil but I love La Jetee so I will watch it one day. I'll check out your post now, although I remember seeing it at the time.

I have seen 12, along with most of "The James Bond Franchise" and the first of "The Lethal Weapon Films", which I didn't like

Guess which Dan. Guess. It's not that hard

So 10 other films? Hmmm maybe Se7en, Platoon, Inglourious Basterds, Star Wars, Lost In Translation, Schindler's List, 12 Angry Men, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Donnie Darko, Blade Runner and Inland Empire.

That's 11, so take out a few maybe and/or throw in another few I missed

7/11 not bad actually.