Does Kick-Ass go too far?

No words "need" to be used, ever.

As for the folks claiming we need to control this more in the above posts, that is just a big ol pile of horse ****. Here's some control: Don't like it? Don't watch it.

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Good call.

Yep, except you normally need to view movies before you know about the scenes that will bother you. Then there are the review threads where people like to complain about those certain scenes just as much as others like to praise them.
There's nothing wrong with sharing the opinion that you don't believe young children should use that sort of language. Sure, don't watch the movie "again", once you know about those certain scenes that bother you so much, but as I pointed out, you will more than likely have to view a film once, before you know about most of the disturbing, annoying, ridiculous . . . scenes in certain movies. Once you've done that, you may as well talk about it. That's what review threads are for.
Through the years on-line, I've noticed that many people can't take negative opinions. Opinions that are different than their's. It would be nice if they could simply be polite either way, but that doesn't normally happen. It's not right to make someone feel bad, just to get your point or opinion across. It doesn't make you anymore accurate, either. I've said it a thousand times by now . . . It's just an opinion.

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Did anyone know that the C word meant something completely different years and years ago? It's shocking how it all of a sudden just became such a bad word. I bet there are lots of words like it, but I know there was a street in like London which was called C*nt street. It was on a program before and they were debating the word. I do think it meant something like prostitute though, but my missus is saying it just simply wasn't a bad word at all.

There are a few places with profane names. There is a village in Europe named "F**K". Well, heck, for that matter, I've been up S**t Creek many times.

Fair enough. The point I was making that the word c*nt has completely changed from a non-offensive word to something women (more so than men anyway) find it to be the most offensive word you can use.

An 11-year-old says c**t as part of the kid's dialogue in a movie??? In the real world, an adult encouraging an 11-year-old to say such a thing would be contributing to the deliquency of a minor. But Hollywood gets a pass on such BS.

I don't buy that such language from a child is essential to a movie--if that's the only way to get across a point about that character, then they must have a piss-poor script, a very untalented child actor, and really incompetant director.

In 1971 while making The Last Picture Show, Ben Johnson refused to say the profanity written into the script for his character. Did that undermine that character, or his performance, or the film in any way?

If profanity is the only means actors have of portraying reality, then I'd like to see Hollywood go even further and put live ammo in the guns for all those shootouts. Let the actors roll their own cars in those spectacular crashes. Let's see how much "reality" Hollywood can stand.

But then it made me mad when Hollywood had one kid actor call another "butt-head" in front of my children in that idiotic ET film.

How about the director asks the kid to do a full frontal nude scene? Or simulate oral sex? Are those just more "things that you don't like that happen" if one wants a movie career? Where do you start drawing the line? I got no respect for a parent who would let a child of either sex use such language on or off camera. As for "it's only make-believe," the kid is really saying it and it's really being recorded on film, and it really will be there for her own kids to see when they're the same age. Think they will be proud of mom? Think she's going to be proud of her example before them? Think maybe grandma and grandpa might wish by then they hadn't been so permissive?

Oh, were you being sarcastic???

Yeah, the use of the N-word was a real knee-slapper. Laughed so hard I cried.

I don't care if it was another name for Jesus Christ years ago--it's the here and now we're dealing with, and the word is just offensive today. I don't know people who go around saying things like that, and if I did, I'd avoid them in the future. I don't even like the name of the film--wouldn't waste my money on a film with such a stupid title.

Is your question about me being sarcastic, sarcastic, and is my question sarcastic? DUH!

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I think there is a huge difference between a 13 year old girl (she is 13 not 11) saying the word in question and a 13 year old doing a frontal nude scene or simulate oral sex is completely different. Yes the kid is saying it on film and there are so many people who dislike and that is thier opinion but I think its only a movie and the girl saying one word isnt going to stop me or many others watching it. But to say what if the director asked the girl to do anything sexual is imo got absolutly nothing to with this argument. If people feel so strongly about this one word then just dont watch it.

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I agree, though the history of cinema is filled with children doing sexual scenes or being naked in front of the camera. Polanski's Macbeth features full frontal nudity of child, as does 1900. As I already mentioned the film The Tin Drum has a child actor in several extremely sexual scenes. As long as it services the story and is not done in a pornographic manner - sex for stimulation manner, I see no problem with it.

Yes.

Sorry, couldn't help spoofing you a little.

Probably there.

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So posing nude or simulating sex is sexual but saying "c*nt" isn't. Hmmm, sounds like Clinton saying oral sex isn't really sex. But it's good to know that there are at least some actions that even you would acknowledge goes too far, n3wt, even though as you keep pointing out, it's only a movie.

But let's explore the outer limits of movie dialogue a little more. You've established that having a 13-year-old say c*nt on screen is acceptable, perhaps even laudable. But how about if the 13-year-old elaborated on the word a little. Like maybe adding "Kiss my" or "stick it in my." It's still "just words," of course. But how far would you take it before it's just unacceptable to have a 13-year-old talking like that in a film? Or is it OK for anyone of any age to say anything as long as it's in the script?

I have no idea what the kid's age is. First reference said 11. But does 13 make it more acceptable? Is she 2 years more mature? 2 years closer to the age of consent? If it's acceptable for a 13-year-old, would you endorse such language in a film by an 11-year-old? How about a 9-year-old? How about a pre-schooler--you know, like those little girls that their mamas dress up in outfits designed for adult street-walkers for those southern junior beauty pagents. Would it bother you to see a 5-year-old dressed in grown-up styles and make-up maybe singing a rap tune that contains the word c*nt? How far would you personally want to push this?

Firstly Posing nude and/or simulating oral sex IS different to a girl saying "My mother is a c#nt" yes the word is used to describe a vagina but also it is used as a derogertrive term which in this case its the latter. Yes I think anything depicting children or teens being raped or naked is to far and I dont like it but it is in a film.

So you are saying,

Well fo a 13 year old girl this would be illegal for a start.

Its not as if this is the first time for this to happen if you remember The Exorsist there is graphic scenes in this and that was a 13 year old girl.

Getting back on the subject and away from all this other stuff being added into the argument, the girl in this movie says the word c#nt NOT anything else just the word as she is angry at her mother, (bearing in mind I havent seen it yet) and she is using as a form of expression and nothing else. he film has been rated as 15 so anyone under that age shouldnt be seeing it and I can say that neither of my children wont be seeing as they are not 15.

We can all try our best with our children but we cannot protect them from hearing every swear word under the sun and they should be brought up with manners and respect thus not using the fowl language.

OMG I am so bored of disscusing this it is in the cinemas so if you dont like it dont watch.

A little off topic here, but why is C**t considered to be so much worse than other swear words? I know it's not the only word she uses, but it still seems to be what most people are upset about. People who use f**k and s**t will refrain from using the C-Word, surely it's no worse then other swears?