Best superhero movie other than the Dark Knight trilogy

Yeah, I'd take the first two Raimi Spider-Man over most (if not all) of the MCU installments - maybe even The Dark Knight as well.

Also, I guess I get to be the first to mention Logan. Certainly deserves the title more than f*cking Kick-Ass.

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Agree with you about all and sin city. I liked parts of it but overrall it’s ugly and nasty but not in an intriguing way...only example I can think of that’s intriguing would be goodfella and casino. Then with the addition of cgi type looking sets it feels hollow. The original is however better than the sequel.

i d say, spiderman 1 and 2
deadpool 1 and 2

I didn't think Sin City counted as a superhero movie since there are no superheroes in it, unless vigilantes dressed in regular clothes count. But if we are counting that one, than I would pick that as a contender as well.

Sin City is a beautiful thing.

If Sin City is going to be mentioned, then I will mention The Crow. Is he a "superhero"? He's a hero, and he's "super" (or more accurately: paranormal). I'd rate it as one of the top-ten comic book-based movies ever made.

If we are mentioning comic book based movies without superheroes than I feel that Dick Tracy (1990) is a pretty good one too. It's nothing deep or anything, but it's a lot of fun.

Logan is definitely right up there with the Dark Knight

I gotta see this Logan everyone keeps talking about. I didn't want to cause I got tired of the X-men movies as I thought they just kept repeating themselves with the going back to the past stuff. Do I need to see all of them to understand Logan?

So long as you have a basic knowledge of who the X-Men are, no, you don’t have to be caught up with the series. It basically functions as an alternate universe.

Okay thanks, this is why I got tired of the series though, cause they cannot decide on Professor X's origin story, here or there, and they change Wolverine's around from getting metal claws to having been born with them, etc. But I will check out Logan.

Maybe I didn't pay attention, but I didn't see why Logan was raised up as this supposed film masterpiece (compared to the various other Wolverine / X-Men movies). Don't get me wrong, it was good, it had a much more serious tone and was more violent than its predecessors (personally, it's seriousness and ending made it all a bit of a downer, IMO)... but it was still just a comic book action flick.

And as mentioned, it screwed with all the continuity which didn't really matter since they threw continuity to the wind a long time ago in both the film franchises and the comics.

The reviews Logan got reminded me of the hoopla of Wonder Woman (2017) - like it was this intense art film that would become a movie classic, talked about, studied & repeated for generations (and hey, maybe COMPARED to Batman vs. Superman it was that, but only in comparison.)

Again, I'm not knocking either of these, they're both decent superhero films: bad guys getting their butts kicked and CGI, but I don't get why so many wanted to raise these particular two to some kind of "art" level, making them somehow superior and in a class by themselves.

I thought Wonder Woman was good, but not certainly not great. I haven't seen Logan but I think the main reason why it got so much hype was cause of the R rating, as if that is a huge revolution in superhero movies. Perhaps it is.

Wonder Woman I think got a lot of hype cause it was a female superhero movie, so people really held it in a higher regard cause of that I think.

I don't know... Deadpool 1 I guess

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I think Logan got extra credit because it managed to be an exceptionally rare example of an R-rated superhero movie that didn't resort to comedy (like Deadpool or Kick-Ass) and also managed to be a solid film overall (unlike Watchmen). More importantly, it's the only X-Men movie that isn't some degree of hot mess (yes, even the "good" ones). In that context, it's a downright masterpiece.

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That's true, there were the more satirical R rated superhero movies. What I want to know is why making an R rated X-men movie is a good idea, since most of the X-men fans seem to be teenagers, unless I am wrong?

Isn't making an R rated X men movie about as hitting the wrong audience, as making a PG-13 aimed Hannibal Lecter movie? Wouldn't doing that hit the wrong audience?

Kick-Ass had the potential to become a great trilogy, but they screwed it up with the sequel not coming even close to recapturing what made the original so special.

I think there's a dynamic at play here with comic fans of the 90s and earlier wanting to see their/our Wolverine BE the Wolverine we grew up with.

R rating gave us that for the most part.

Hmm. I never really thought of it as prime franchise material. In fact, I figured it was mostly forgotten and, if, remembered only as an odd little entry in the genre a year or two before it exploded.

The movie didn’t ever come alive for me.

But I do appreciate this look at what Nic Cage’s Walter White might have been like: