Terrorist Attacks

Yes, never did understand that one. Why would you want converts who are forced to convert? Seems a mark of insecurity and of total stupidity. This is why I don't consider this a "religion" - just a fascist ideology which wants to take over the world. Then the "clerics" could completely control the populace. Not a rule I want to live under, thank you very much!

Almost all of the information on it is true and can easily be verified, but yeah, one piece of text was probably once put into the wrong context and therefore all the truthful (verifiable) information on the site needs to be dismissed.
With that logic every major paper and news site that ever existed needs to be dismissed in their entirety.

Ad hominem again. Like all of your posts. Captain deserves more respect than that.

The irony is strong. I don't pity you however. I pity the people that try to have a constructive conversation with you about these issues.

Yes I've noticed that. Also noticed that free speech is being restricted more and more in the name of PC liberalism. Problem is, who gets to decide what is allowed and what is not?

The PC school of double standards teaches that they always have the "right" to engage in personal attacks, the very same type they immediately are offended by and call to be censored when done by others. But even better - they like to take any thought or expression, no matter how objective, say it offends THEM and therefore call for it to be removed - all the while claiming THEY are the champions of free speech.

Interesting. I wonder if the South Asians protesting the Muslim prayers were white, would they have been immediately branded as racists and xenophobes? What a silly question...we all know the answer to that one. The South Asians are right, the West always makes concessions to Islam because they demand it, often violently. I don't see other religious group like Buddhist, Siks or Hindus making the same demands. When one of the last Popes (John Paul II?) visited the UK, I remember seeing a cartoon of him in a prominent national paper with a condom hanging off his nose. I also don't recall anyone saying this was xenophobic or racist or even disrespectful to Catholics. But can anyone imagine a prominent Ayatollah visiting the UK and having a like cartoon printed about him? Why, the outrage would be astronomical with street demonstrations and questions in Parliament about it.


My problem with Islam has nothing to do the color of anyone's skin (last I looked Iranians and Turks were white to name but a few) and has everything to do with the dreadful way they treat women and the horrible practices they impose on them. Of course not all Muslims are terrorists but the vast majority of Muslim countries and Muslims religionists in Western countries treat woman like second class citizens at best and and as the lowest of the low to be despised, mistreated and murdered at worst. We now have Sharia courts in the UK, FGM on a large scale and "honor" killings where none existed before. We now have young girls abused and exploited by men whom the police do not want to do anything about because they could be branded as "racists". All horrible practices aimed at one group of people and one group only: women! This is what I do not want to see imported into Europe - I don't want to see our culture subjugated in the name of some PC "multiculturism" which only seems to ever work one way. I don't want to see hard won women's rights go back to the 7th century. And if anyone has a problem with that....too bad!

Posts like this are why I I just can't take you seriously.

When Islam spread, you were not FORCED to convert. You were asked to pay a tax, which by the way went to building churches, creating infrastructure, and providing protection.

Not my fault you're an islamaphobe and yes, that is a horrible thing because it is borne out of ignorance.

Asked to pay a tax? What the hell for? Provide protection? From whom?

If Islamophobe means fear and horror of Islam....absolutely! I am a woman after all. You know a second (or third) class citizen in their eyes? The lesser of the species? The one whose testimony is worth half of a man's?

And the second man who was stabbed standing up to a psychotic bully in Oregon has died. Strange that no one has mentioned that...

Women's rights.

Aside from Saudi Arabia, who by the way is the worst abuser of women's rights. What other country do you believe treats its women like second class citizens??

Last I remember Indonesia, Pakistan have female presidents. Other Muslim countries have female presidents.

So, it's easy to throw alone the women's rights issue...And then ignore it when you deal with Saudi Arabia beside the west can be bought with money.

You just have your own version of the truth.

It's not PC to be respectful.

Last I saw Muslims aren't creating cartoons of Jesus or Moses to offend those religions.

And I'm sorry, since the cat is out of the bag and you guys are now just ******** on this religion allow me to tell you that YOU ARE ignorant. Is that PC enough for you?

Those guys won't comment here because it doesn't fit their agenda. Their conspiracy and antimuslim websites make stuff like this seem heroic. It's sad.

You just defended answering Islam. Lmao.

Dude. Just stop.

It's simply not a valid response to say "that source is discredited" and then act as if you don't need to answer anything coming from it, particularly when, as Cob pointed out, they're often just citing other sources, anyway.

What needs to stop are these condescending addendums and extracurricular jabs. They serve no purpose other than making the argument uglier and less substantive. Good, fact-based arguments don't need them.

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My preference is always for people to self-regulate in controversial discussions, and to that end I've asked people in this thread to reign it in several times. It seems to have made very little difference. So it's going to be something close to zero tolerance from now on: any post with a whiff of ad hominem is getting removed.

I like members who pick their topics and don't randomly crap posts in as many threads as they can manage.

It's not PC to be respectful.

Last I saw Muslims aren't creating cartoons of Jesus or Moses to offend those religions.

And I'm sorry, since the cat is out of the bag and you guys are now just ******** on this religion allow me to tell you that YOU ARE ignorant. Is that PC enough for you?

And as usual, state sanctioned terrorism of the innocent in Philippines in the name of 'collateral damage' wont get a mention so I'll just park this in here.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2...rn-philippines

How about the threat of thousands of innocent people to be used as collateral damage in Philippines?

Women's rights.

Aside from Saudi Arabia, who by the way is the worst abuser of women's rights. What other country do you believe treats its women like second class citizens??

Last I remember Indonesia, Pakistan have female presidents. Other Muslim countries have female presidents.

So, it's easy to throw alone the women's rights issue...And then ignore it when you deal with Saudi Arabia beside the west can be bought with money.

You just have your own version of the truth.