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Originally Posted by led_zeppelin
If Mystic River beats ROTK, i'm gonna just die. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE Mystic River though, one of the best I've ever seen, but I have read LOTR 4 times now, and I just think ROTK deserves it more. But, that's just me, the LOTR fanatic.
All I know is that I'm going to be upset if Master and Commander doesn't get nominated for both best pic and actor. Mystic River is almost a lock for both of those categories.
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Hi guys,

I liked Master & Com also -- and Mystic River also, though it was so-oh-oh-oh-oh dark (too much with the bleakness. Needed some contrast) but it is not really fair to compare the two -- apples & oranges. Master & Com was a shoot-em-up with real heart, just like the books. Mystic was so tragic that it wore me out to the point where I could no longer empathize with the characters -- except maybe the Tim Robbins character, but I feel they were not similar enough to make comparisons.

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Originally Posted by Beale the Rippe
All I know is that I'm going to be upset if Master and Commander doesn't get nominated for both best pic and actor. Mystic River is almost a lock for both of those categories.
As for Master and Commander. . .I'm gonna wait for video for this one.
As for Mystic River, heck yeah it'll be nominated. And definately win Best Actor IMO. I just hope ROTK gets best picture. Like I said, ROTK deserves it more IMO, seeing as how LOTR is a classic. Mystic River will definately win something big though. And it should, cuz GOSHDARN that movie kicks major movie anus!
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I read the book. A densley emotional, phsycological read. I'll hafta check this one out on DVD.
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I saw Mystic River a few weeks ago, I went with a friend. MR is an emotional journey, we were both silent all the way back to the car, I really liked the movie, I didn't think it was one of the greatest movies ever, I found it hard to get into the Tim Robbins character, although I like him, he just didn't ring true for me in this role. To a lesser degree, Kevin Bacon, maybe I am 2 used to seeing him as an on the edge madman.
Sean Penn was very good, he really stood out in this movie.

This isn't my kind of movie, I probably won't see it again for a long time, it felt 2 much like work.
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I enjoyed the film immensely. I didn't think anyone lacked in performance and Penn outdid himself.



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of the three, penn's character provides the most interest. a muscled and tattooed corner boy, he's done the time for doing the crime, but since the death of his first wife the love of his daughter has kept him on the straight and narrow, though he does mix with the brutes and bruisers of his boston suburb and is clearly only too willing to take the law into his own hands. and by the end of the film there's innocent blood on those hands and you feel that, without his daughter there to keep an eye on him, he's going to descend into a world of crime beloved by classic jimmy cagney films, a king of the cons with a heart of gold hardened by mean streets and cruel fate, a real angel with a dirty face. laura linney (mary-ann in the adaptation of tales of the city) is pretty much wasted as his wife, this being a man's film where women are relegated to the background, but gets one final scene where she plays yet another hollywood version of lady macbeth, excusing his crimes and extolling a life for him as king of the underworld. cliched and all as that is, it's still the only strand of the whole film that has anything going for it, but the final credits are rolling by the time that promise comes around and you realise that the preceding two hours or so of screen time really weren't worth the effort.

filled with formulaic camera movements that only ever look contrived and self-important, never the hard-crafted easy-artistry of better directors, throughout eastwood hits more bum notes than a bar-room jazz band on an off night. there's that whole sub-plot with bacon's wife. there's the scene of robbins-as-a-kid being kidnapped by the (obviously roman catholic) paedophiles which isn't just echoed in a later scene with robbins enroute to his last sup but is repeated at the end in penn's memory of that sleepers day. then there's a lot of dreadful dialogue of the sort that helgeland seems to specialise in. and finally there's that perfectly timed moment when bacon and his partner (laurence fishburne - from apocalypse now to this via the matrix) rush in to disarm the real killers in a moment that can only leave you wondering what the hell they were doing to be in the right place at the right time.

there are things that are right about it - there's something dreadfully claustrophobic about the paedo-kidnapping, and there's something about penn meting out injustice to robbins that almost has you begging for some formulistic cavalry intervention, but overall they're not enough to give any real satisfaction. with eastwood helming it and such a cast of stars it's bound to win awards come the bangles and baubles season, but that doesn't make it a good movie.
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this movie was a deep and haunting film. i loved sean penn in it. his charcter was so awesome. Especially they did not make him look like bad guy. WHat a job done by tim robbins. SO CONVINCING was his acting. but the music i hated, it just didnt fit.



Originally Posted by poeman
but the music i hated, it just didnt fit.
You do know Clint Eastwood did the music right? I hate to say it but I agree, even though Mystic River is my favorite movie of all time, the music could've been much better.



Just saw this movie. Wow. Great acting, I think on all counts (although I'd put Tim Robbins at the end of the list). Penn was amazing.
I have to say that if it had been my story I would have kept it a little tighter. Some of the events in the movie were a little scattered. I didn't like the fact that the reason Dave came home with blood all over him had absolutely nothing to do with Katie's murder. I guess every movie can't be Holes, but....
Well, I grew up near the Boston area, and believe you me, those accents they all got... ASTOUNDING!! Sean Penn couldn't have done it better if he was an Italian Bostonian from the day he was born. Even Lawrence Fishburne (and this is my favorite roll of his, I think) did it extremely well. I take my hat off to the actors and to the voice coaches (crap, not wearing a hat- oh well).
Only one more thing to say. The kids in the beginning were great. I think the kid who played Jimmy looked just like Sean Penn. However, he didn't look like Jimmy Markum. Here's how it goes- a little Itallian boy is no way going to have freckles and red hair. I think that maybe they should have switched the kids that played Jimmy and Sean. That would have been right.

p.s. My favorite scene in the movie is the porch scene with Robbins and Penn, when Jimmy is agonizing over the fact that he cannot cry for his daughter, and Dave points out that "You're cryin' now." Beautifully done. The sorrow Jimmy is feeling is very palatable.
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Originally Posted by RosieGamgee
Here's how it goes- a little Italian boy is no way going to have freckles and red hair. I think that maybe they should have switched the kids that played Jimmy and Sean. That would have been right. .
You maybe right for the movie, I have a friend she is Italian, she came with her dark-haired family to live in Australia when she was 4 years old, she has dark red hair, freckles and green eyes, she married an Italian guy they had a daughter with blonde hair and Blue eyes, so you never know what can happen when people procreate.



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I saw it like a month ago. I was pretty hyped up about it and I gotta say, I was kinda disappointed. The acting was superb though. Sean Penn really blew me away. But I felt the film was too dragged out and took too long to resolve. The plot also had a loophole.



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Great acting, and unfortunately for the viewer, that was it. The script failed to develope and the movie played at an extremely slow pace. I have no idea how this ran up for best picture, but then again, movies coming out lately, are awful. I'll let Penn keep his little award but for the love of God, Clint, stop directing.



Originally Posted by MysticalMoose
Great acting, and unfortunately for the viewer, that was it. The script failed to develope and the movie played at an extremely slow pace. I have no idea how this ran up for best picture, but then again, movies coming out lately, are awful. I'll let Penn keep his little award but for the love of God, Clint, stop directing.
Heh heh. I will agree with this!

natzo, what was the loophole? (nitpicker's curiousity takes over)



NO CLINT! KEEP DIRECTING! arrg



Originally Posted by MysticalMoose
I'll let Penn keep his little award but for the love of God, Clint, stop directing.
Moose don't know ****.



I know I'm really, really late in responding to this post, but I thought that Mystic River was an intense, well-done film. I saw it twice! Sean Penn and Tim Robbins were excellent in this film.
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At best, I thought this was a bland story made somewhat interesting by solid acting... up until the ending. Good Lord, that was dreadful. Not only was it poorly acted, it also made zero sense. Does Eastwood not understand the concept of tragedy?

I'm not irked because it didn't end on a note where you'd be feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. There's nothing worse than a film holding your hand like a little child, leading you to where your feelings should be. But this ending made no sense whatsoever. If you haven't seen it yet, there's no point in planning to. What a way to have an already mediocre film deteriorate into utter balderdash in a matter of minutes.