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Black Rain (1989)


Black Rain tells the story of a family that survives the bombing of Hiroshima and deals with the post war ramifications. It's a powerful well done story, I enjoy how the director shoots the film like a 50s/60's Japanese New Wave style. The characters are well defined and the story is compelling. It's a good film...though not a great one.



Some of the performances during the post war blast are almost comical. A woman breastfeeding an blackened child (how would that even work), a little boy walking up to a man covered in burns and apparently not in any pain, a guy blind falling one story that wouldn't kill anyone. It was pretty silly, focusing on melodrama instead of what practically would have happened during an explosion. But even though it had a certain degree of silliness 90% of the film is about postwar life and that was very well done.



I like how we got the slow burn of people dying, the mental breakdowns of several characters who have to live this life, and the director did a fair job aging the actors.
I'm glad you mostly liked it. Are you using Firefox on a PC by any chance? If so I'll tell you why I asked (not a big deal, I'm just curious).



Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?



Hanagatami (2017)

That was very, very, VERY, very long.
A surreal journey that continually relapsed upon itself and spun about like a waking dream: halfway between what may be real and the emotional sum of a dreamscape that drifts like circles of waves on a continually shifting beach that may be in itself, water, and it is the sand that laps like the sexual tension that everyone has in regards to everyone else and the repression of expressing what needs to be spoken and the symbology of what is visually expressed in broken poetry.

I honestly do not know.
And I'm unsure if I need to.
Like the final meanderings of life, at its end, Hanagatami is equally poignant as it is nonsensical. Pivoting at such a quick speed, it becomes difficult to differentiate what is spoken, what is thought, and in what realm do they cohabitate.

Again, I honestly do not know.
And ponder, should I attempt to.
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Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?
That's it for me.
I'll have a vote tallied out later this evening.
THANK YOU EVERYONE for each and every film that I would not have seen if I did not join in.



Chocolate: Man, that was fun! All the fighting in this film is very fast paced and greatly entertaining to watch. For a film with such a short runtime, I'm surprised at how many fight scenes they managed to fit in without any of them feeling tired or overwhelming. I think I agree with a lot of people on this film in terms of one thing: Every scene that's about the yakuza instead of Zen just feels like a really bad soap opera. It's really odd to see something so amateurish and bad in a film where the fight choreography makes it clear that there was talent behind this (I know nothing about Thai cinema, so this could be a regular style they have and I wouldn't know). The villains are very one dimensional, but I had no issue with the main characters.

In terms of representation of autism, it's pretty good I'd say: Being upset by the flies, having a special interest, communicating with hand signals etc. I feel like the whole shtick where Zen can sense tiny balls moving at a distance could be an example of the tired savant troupe, but it didn't bother me. Was quite weird to have the guy with Tourettes be a blatant stereotype though, kinda reminds me of those films that preach diversity by making minorities the main characters, but still act offensive to different minority groups.

Good film Pahak.



A woman breastfeeding an blackened child (how would that even work)
The child was clearly dead. It's probably safe to assume the mother was just in shock, or is refusing to come to terms with what had just happened.

Are you using Firefox on a PC by any chance? If so I'll tell you why I asked (not a big deal, I'm just curious).
Can you tell me why you brought it up? I do use Firefox on a PC and am wondering if that somehow affects my posts. And if so, why you haven't asked me the same question (unless you have and I forgot haha).



The child was clearly dead. It's probably safe to assume the mother was just in shock, or is refusing to come to terms with what had just happened.

The point is that the mother and child being in different conditions makes no sense for the situation. If they were in different parts of the city than yeah okay maybe I can buy that but then how would she know that was her baby...if it was just burnt like that.



Originally Posted by Citizen Rules
Are you using Firefox on a PC by any chance? If so I'll tell you why I asked (not a big deal, I'm just curious).
Can you tell me why you brought it up? I do use Firefox on a PC and am wondering if that somehow affects my posts. And if so, why you haven't asked me the same question (unless you have and I forgot haha).
The reason I asked was: I was trying to be helpful. I noticed on Siddon's reviews that he had larger spaces between his paragraphs. I once had that happen to me and I couldn't stop Firefox from doing the large spaces. We even talked about it here at MoFo on one of the bug report threads. If you start reading at Jab's post and read down to where I post about the fix, you'll see what I mean.
https://www.movieforums.com/communit...42#post1966442



I've never had that happen to me, but I also always use shift and enter together for a new line (and twice if I want a full line of space in between) instead of just enter.



I've never had that happen to me, but I also always use shift and enter together for a new line (twice if I want a full line of space in between) instead of just enter.
It might have been changed in a newer version of Firefox so no longer does the super-sized paragraph spaces. I was glad to have found a fix awhile back as it drove me crazy. But not as crazy as the new bookmark changes, that made me bonkers (I fixed that too, I'm always 'fixing' Firefox)



(I fixed that too, I'm always 'fixing' Firefox)
Don't get me started! Some time ago they did a lot of changes that made the layout more like Chrome, and I hated it. Particularly having tabs on top instead of on bottom, where they belong. If I wanted a Chrome-like browser I'd, you know, use Chrome. Every few updates since then they break whatever my current fix for putting tabs on bottom is, and it's very frustrating.



Don't get me started! Some time ago they did a lot of changes that made the layout more like Chrome, and I hated it. Particularly having tabs on top instead of on bottom, where they belong. If I wanted a Chrome-like browser I'd, you know, use Chrome. Every few updates since then they break whatever my current fix for putting tabs on bottom is, and it's very frustrating.
I can't remember not having the tabs on top, but that's probably my faulty memory What I struggled most with was the animated url/search bar, that took a LOT of effort to put back the way I like it.



Tears of the Black Tiger: "It doesn't take itself too seriously", that's a phrase I always hear spoken verbatim whenever an action/horror film with exaggerated elements is brought to discussion. I like to see Black Tiger as an exception to this: It DOES take itself quite seriously! Sure, the action scenes are obviously trying to be funny, but the melodrama elements feel very honest and not satirical or hollow. I think this makes the film alot more interesting than other films that try to be over-the-top or satirical; those films often have one dimensional characters because the writers almost believe a film that 'you shouldn't take seriously' shouldn't have good characters and story. Let's hope more comedic and satirical films have the same level of character writing as Black Tiger in the future.

One issue I had with it was that I don't think it had enough over-the-top elements. Apart from the ending, nothing in the film shows the same level of silliness as the football game-esque "lets see that again!" replay scene at the start of the film. I also noticed there were quite a few flashback within a flashback moments in the film, I don't know whether this was intentional for the sake of comedy or whether that's just what the writers wanted.

Very good film JJ, even if I could only find the shorter version.



Mother: You know a film is well written when you've been heavily engaged in it and you don't realise the protagonist doesn't have a name until you look at the films Wikipedia page! Certainly one of those films where the main performer steals the show in comparison to everyone else. I see some criticisms of the film saying that it's not really the 'finding the killer' film that the marketing makes it out to be. I agree, that only made up about the middle portion of the film: the rest of the film was more about the mother's reactions to certain events involving the murder. Didn't hinder my experience though.

WARNING: spoilers below
In typical Bong fashion, things go haywire in the third act. I was sort of expecting the reveal that the son was the killer, but it's how that is presented and the reactions to it are what make an obvious twist interesting. I was personally way more shocked by the reveal that the mother tried to kill the son. It felt like such a significant piece of information that I'm surprised it didn't seem to be relevant to the rest of the film, which was a bit annoying.


Great film Cosmic. List sent





Dust in the Wind (1986)

Well this was a beautifully shot dull affair. Dust in the Wind tells the story of two young people who have come to a new city to find their way in the world. Every shot in this film is gorgeous the director clearly loved making each shot feel like something worth being framed..but I wish the story had something more to it...like a plot.

I don't want to be to mean about it but this put me to sleep four times and I kept having to go back to rewatch it. And even though I've tried to digest it I still never connected with any of the characters. It was like I was watching these beautiful shots and yet the people where just different shades of beige.


Also you know I hate watching films like where you are left almost nothing to talk about. You don't really want to trash it because it's very competently made but you can't really praise it because it's so cold and removed from what a film like this should be.



The trick is not minding
Daimajin


When anyone mentions a film nomination for a future HOF being a “joke”, always retort that it could have been worse. After all, we have now seen Daimajin.

This was a boring film, with not much going for it other then some decent productions values. Especially for its time.

But when all one has to say about it is it’s effects, well, there isn’t much else to say.

The story is pretty standard, and lacks any kind of suspense that should go with a plot like this. It just meanders along from one scene to another with everyone talking about the veangence of the god, but for some reason he never seems to care until they drive a metal stake into his head. Then he gets angry.

But by then, I hardly cared.



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Well the action is actually in frame and you have edits...it's not three people playing around in the sand....moving on.
That's a very narrow-minded approach to editing and cinematography.
but I wish the story had something more to it...like a plot
Yet another argument, which simply says somebody finds the movie boring. It usually means it lacks action sequences and a gripping plot full of twists. The viewer is not fond of the fact the film made him enter the state of weariness or tiredness caused by the fact they didn't feel like pulling through that damn boring movie yet they tried anyway. Sometimes used when no other reasonable argument on why one didn't like a film is found. Caused by the fact the viewer can't see the substance, because the story is e.g. told non-verbally through visuals or in a way that isn't accessible for Sunday movie watchers.
this put me to sleep four times and I kept having to go back to rewatch it
At least you're persistent. You sound like a hood kid during a Bach concert. Kudos for persistency.
Also you know I hate watching films like where you are left almost nothing to talk about
I mean, the fact I can't say anything about the music of indigenous tribes of Africa does not mean there is nothing to say about it. But even then, upon listening to it, you can draw some conclusions, describe your feelings. I guess that's just what you did saying it's boring and plotless...
it's so cold and removed from what a film like this should be
Meaning? You seem to define certain ways films should be made and hate every film that does not fit your criteria. I mean, you're not Bresson or Tarkovsky to make up for your narrow-minded view on art with a stream of masterpieces.
This was a boring film
"This 7-hour-long Sátántangó of that bore Béla Tarr is hands down the dullest, most tedious, dragging and boring swamp of boredom I have ever seen."

Do you guys even rate this HoF as a positive experience? Because you sound as if you were suffering.
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The trick is not minding
"This 7-hour-long Sátántangó of that bore Béla Tarr is hands down the dullest, most tedious, dragging and boring swamp of boredom I have ever seen."

Do you guys even rate this HoF as a positive experience? Because you sound as if you were suffering.
I’m not sure why I was quoted considering Daimajin is hardly worth defending.

To answer your question, yes, it was. Even if I didn’t enjoy a film, I never consider it a waste.
For the most part, I enjoyed the bulk of the nominations.
I’m pleased to see you defending Dust in the Wind, however, as it was my nomination and a film I hold in high esteem, much like I do it’s director.
I agree with your responses towards Siddon regarding it as well, and for similar films.

Does....does this means there’s hope for me?