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Ok, this is an odd post admittedly but I think my anonymity here would be helpful.

Background: I have a female friend, who is quite attractive but her vacuity is so apparent -- at least to me. I never found her appealing in a romantic way. In any case, 6 years ago she found a timid but very smart PhD student to date. I didn't get the connection until I realized his meager experience. She complained continuously that he hasn't proposed or sped up his life for her. She's getting older (28) , she wants to buy a house , have kids - - and so on.

The situation: this girl messages me that she is so physically attracted to a man that she can't help herself. The man is someone she meets regularly at a lunch spot near her job. I simply told her to change her location until it subsides. She recently met up with me and said it's passed only to admit later that she gave him a blow job during lunch. Now he's texting her inappropriate pictures which she ostensibly abhors but secretly appreciates. She's asking me for advice, and I tell her to consider his feelings and empathize with him.

It's clear she won't tell her bf.. months have passed. She's still talking to the other guy.

I know I shouldn't do anything but if I were in his position I'd wanna know. If I am about to marry someone how I would I feel if they cheated and covered it up? It speaks to more than an impulsive lapse of judgment.

Any argument as to why I should tell him?
Nope, because this is none of your business, at all. Just exactly when would it ever be OK for friends to randomly make large life decisions for anyone without their consent? With friends like those....
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Nope, because this is none of your business, at all. Just exactly when would it ever be OK for friends to randomly make large life decisions for anyone without their consent? With friends like those....
Well, obviously you risk no longer being a friend with her. That may be pretty bastardly to rat on her, but the slut's giving blowjobs to other men behind his back. What if she catches HIV? What if she gives it to her innocent boyfriend? Wouldn't it have been better if the friend had warned this woman's boyfriend and saved his life? That's a highly more honorable thing than sitting back and just being "the good friend." Especially to a slut like her. Sometimes you have to do what you know is right.



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You don't get HIV from BJs.

Yes, talk to her to be open with her boyfriend about what has been going on or to change her behavior.

No, to being a meddler, particularly since I doubt with the info he has and his zero standing with the boyfriend he is going to believe him anyway.

We don''t even know if she actually gave the other one an actual blow job. That might have been a fantasy on her part or to titillate her guy friend who never makes a pass at her.
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Nope, because this is none of your business, at all. Just exactly when would it ever be OK for friends to randomly make large life decisions for anyone without their consent? With friends like those....
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You don't get HIV from BJs.
Yes, you can. If you have small cuts in your mouth, which you can get after brushing your teeth, and which you may not even be able to see. And God knows about the chances if you swallow the semen. I think I've heard you can't, but I don't trust it. It's ingesting semen and putting it into your body. Even if you don't get HIV, you can still get other STD's.



Yes, you can. If you have small cuts in your mouth, which you can get after brushing your teeth, and which you may not even be able to see. And God knows about the chances if you swallow the semen. I think I've heard you can't, but I don't trust it. It's ingesting semen and putting it into your body. Even if you don't get HIV, you can still get other STD's.
It's possible in theory but the amount of body fluid would have to be massive, the cuts severe, and the immune response appropriate. Acquiring an HIV infection through vaginal or anal, even with unprotected sex, is still only 1/2 of 1%. Oral sex is probably even lower. Although you can get other STDs through oral sex.



It's possible in theory but the amount of body fluid would have to be massive, the cuts severe, and the immune response appropriate. Acquiring an HIV infection through vaginal or anal, even with unprotected sex, is still only 1/2 of 1%. Oral sex is probably even lower. Although you can get other STDs through oral sex.
I've always thought it was possible to get HIV from oral sex. Someone I know told me they knew somebody who got it from oral sex. So, I think it's very possible.



I've always thought it was possible to get HIV from oral sex. Someone I know told me they knew somebody who got it from oral sex. So, I think it's very possible.
It's possible but it's more realistic that HIV was acquired from Anal or Vaginal before Oral..



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Ok, this is an odd post admittedly but I think my anonymity here would be helpful.

Background: I have a female friend, who is quite attractive but her vacuity is so apparent -- at least to me. I never found her appealing in a romantic way. In any case, 6 years ago she found a timid but very smart PhD student to date. I didn't get the connection until I realized his meager experience. She complained continuously that he hasn't proposed or sped up his life for her. She's getting older (28) , she wants to buy a house , have kids - - and so on.

The situation: this girl messages me that she is so physically attracted to a man that she can't help herself. The man is someone she meets regularly at a lunch spot near her job. I simply told her to change her location until it subsides. She recently met up with me and said it's passed only to admit later that she gave him a blow job during lunch. Now he's texting her inappropriate pictures which she ostensibly abhors but secretly appreciates. She's asking me for advice, and I tell her to consider his feelings and empathize with him.

It's clear she won't tell her bf.. months have passed. She's still talking to the other guy.

I know I shouldn't do anything but if I were in his position I'd wanna know. If I am about to marry someone how I would I feel if they cheated and covered it up? It speaks to more than an impulsive lapse of judgment.

Any argument as to why I should tell him?
Real life isnt an after school special. This broad is a first rate drama Queen. Run, dont walk, Run away, and don't look back.

Tell him, only if you have a hankering to get your face caved in, because thats a likely consequence.
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It's possible but it's more realistic that HIV was acquired from Anal or Vaginal before Oral..
I would still watch out and consider it a risk. Would you blow a man you knew was HIV+ or eat out an HIV+ lady just because you heard it was safe?



Tell him, only if you have a hankering to get your face caved in, because thats a likely consequence.
Follow your friend around and spy on her and take pictures (and video) when she's blowing her secret lover. Upload it to one of those porn tube websites and send her boyfriend a link to it (make sure he'll look at it). Send me the link, too, so I can see if she's being a slut for a good reason.



Follow your friend around and spy on her and take pictures (and video) when she's blowing her secret lover. Upload it to one of those porn tube websites and send her boyfriend a link to it (make sure he'll look at it). Send me the link, too, so I can see if she's being a slut for a good reason.
That's a lot of work and not to mention illegal.



I wanted to comment on the other significant discussion besides the primary one that people have been having in this thread. I'm not sure why having an affair before a marriage should be deemed totally irrelevant once the couple is married. Having an affair prior to marriage speaks to character, and strength of character is a pretty important feature of a strong and successful marriage. Having an affair also damages trust, and trust is essential to a happy marriage as well. These things seem to be pretty foundational to having a healthy marriage. Both of these things are harmed by the knowledge that one or both parties have had an affair. I'm not really sure, Will, why you are arguing that they shouldn't matter once the couple says I do.

I also think that position takes a lot of fortune telling. How are we to know whether this couple will a) get married, b) get married and both remain faithful, or c) get married, have children, and raise a family? The answer to these questions is that we don't know any of these things, and in my opinion, it would be inappropriate for us to make a decision about whether or not to tell a man that his soon-to-be wife is cheating on him on the basis that they might one day get married, she might be faithful at that point, and they might be happy? I do agree with you that if they got married, had children, and she did remain faithful all of these years, that that would carry some weight, and that that would be a major factor to consider when deciding whether to stay or go, but I also don't think it's appropriate for us to make these hypothetical judgments in the first place, because the evidence for them is incredibly weak. I think it's far more likely that the fact that this woman is cheating on her soon-to-be husband is powerful evidence that they likely shouldn't be together in the first place, and telling the soon-to-be husband that his soon-to-be fiancee is cheating on him would influence the man's choice about whether this is the woman he wants to be his wife.



I wanted to comment on the other significant discussion besides the primary one that people have been having in this thread. I'm not sure why having an affair before a marriage should be deemed totally irrelevant once the couple is married. Having an affair prior to marriage speaks to character, and strength of character is a pretty important feature of a strong and successful marriage. Having an affair also damages trust, and trust is essential to a happy marriage as well. These things seem to be pretty foundational to having a healthy marriage. Both of these things are harmed by the knowledge that one or both parties have had an affair. I'm not really sure, Will, why you are arguing that they shouldn't matter once the couple says I do.
Because Will likes floozies. That's why he's holding this position. He's totally okay with this woman fooling around on her boyfriend because she's single and she's being naughty and she's apparently sexy. All Will is thinking about is the fact that there's some sexy woman out there who is doing some sexy things that she shouldn't be doing. He's forgiving her for that reason. What if she was somebody that Will knew? Will is totally the type of guy who would get sex from some woman who's already attached to a guy. He wouldn't mind a cheater as long as she wasn't his actual girlfriend. Will.15 is Quagmire. He's gonna cheer on every sexy slut in existence. The fact that she isn't married yet is just his way of giving her an excuse for her naughty behavior. "Oh, you're fine, honey. Keep giving out the blowjobs. It's not like you're married yet. Hey -- how about giving one to me while you're at it?"

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Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.
I also think that position takes a lot of fortune telling.
We're obviously big on hypotheticals around here.
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I wanted to comment on the other significant discussion besides the primary one that people have been having in this thread. I'm not sure why having an affair before a marriage should be deemed totally irrelevant once the couple is married. Having an affair prior to marriage speaks to character, and strength of character is a pretty important feature of a strong and successful marriage. Having an affair also damages trust, and trust is essential to a happy marriage as well. These things seem to be pretty foundational to having a healthy marriage. Both of these things are harmed by the knowledge that one or both parties have had an affair. I'm not really sure, Will, why you are arguing that they shouldn't matter once the couple says I do.
If a woman you were happily married to for five years said "You know, AKA23, before you proposed (the gal is not yet engaged; she knows he has the ring because her parents told her, but he hasn't asked her yet) I strayed once and Bj'd a guy, but that is as far as it went and have been faithful to you ever since and I love you more than anything in the world," are you really going to be that upset? It was before you were married, before the engagmment, she got it out of her system, and made a commitment with you. You going to end a marriage over that?



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I think that I would just impress upon her the importance of going into a marriage with no secrets. A relationship is supposed to be an open book, especially one that is supposed to be a life long relationship. The best way to ruin a relationship is to start keeping secrets.
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