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For all of those years of avoiding Audition because people talked up the ending and the piano wire part so much. But then, when I finally watched it, I found myself cackling with laughter because it was like a Chuck Jones cartoon to me.
In my mind, I had imagined a very different movie.
If I could handle torture elements better, I'd have probably really enjoyed the last act. But even when it's done as basically comedy--like in the movie Otis--I just can't do it.

But that thunk of the severed foot hitting the door? Gold.

I'm glad they changed some elements from the source novel. Apparently in the book, she cuts off the dog's paws while it is alive in front of the main character. No thanks!



Victim of The Night
I want to read this because I liked X so much but I don't see Pearl until next week and I've carefully avoided learning anything about it.
I will circle back on this after I've taken it in.

Edit - Actually, just looking over the first few paragraphs, I don't know if I'm gonna buy into this article. I think it's a convenient and lazy oversimplification to lump all of the tropes of slashers into being about the morality of their times.




I only read up to the point where they start discussing Pearl, so it's possible they expand on their point about X being Revolutionary. And they sure would need to. Yeah, the film attempts to bring sympathy to openly sexual characters. But...they are still almost exclusively being defined by their relationship to sex (how much do we actually learn about them beyond their participation in making a porno....one of them snorts a bunch of cocaine???... Revolutionary!!!??). And, hey, know what else happens to them. They are ultimately killed because of their relationship to sex.


It's the typical way an article about a film promises enormous revelations about its sub text or meta text, but then essentially finds one kinda deviation from the norm and builds its flimsy argument around that. It doesn't care how in depth it actually explores this idea. It also doesn't care how effective it is at employing these ideas. Or what that means to the movie as a whole. They only care that they vaguely make attempts at something different. Lazy lazy lazy. Perfectly fitting for this movie though.


Now, sure, when we learn the motives of the killer, that's where the film actually shows the audience that it might have something to say. But that's also where West completely blows it. Because all he ends up doing is using grotesque stereotypes of the elderly to make this 'point'. And then this article has the audacity to claim that even this is kicking against stereotypes, this time of the elderly. Honestly, that is where the Eat Shit part of my response gets it's footing.


Praising X for it's depiction of the elderly is like praising the trope of The Final Girl as being pro feminist. You have to overlook way too much, and exclusively focus on one of two isolated moments, to come to such an absurd conclusion



So I read the rest of that article and omg, dude thinks these films are akin to what Douglas Sirk was doing. Except they actually depict the ugliness of society. Showed what Sirk daren't do

So I guess.....better?


Lol



So I read the rest of that article and omg, dude thinks these films are akin to what Douglas Sirk was doing. Except they actually depict the ugliness of society. Showed what Sirk daren't do

So I guess.....better?


Lol
While it’s a silly article, most of the writer’s hyperbole is based in their admiration for Pearl, which is a completely different beast to X and alters the subtext of that film to a not insignificant degree.



While it’s a silly article, most of the writer’s hyperbole is based in their admiration for Pearl, which is a completely different beast to X and alters the subtext of that film to a not insignificant degree.
So it's already out?



I had to double check to see if this was the Yeti movie I just watched, but its not. I watched The Snow Creature (1954), which also had a lot of rock-climbing and a five-second clip of the monster reused about twenty times. Would not recommend. The only good Yeti movie I've seen is The Abominable Snowman of the Himalayas.



So it's already out?
Yarp. It’s why they’re comparing it to Sirk. I’d say 90% of their observations are rooted in Pearl or how it alters X.

It is a pretty interesting pastiche that doesn’t rely strictly on cribbing from its influences, or at least it’s influences are a more unique combination than West’s previous efforts (I could see Repulsion meets Wizard of Oz having been the pitch).

Revolutionary? No, not really. But it does feel an oddity to see a franchise change horror subgenres (slasher to psychotic woman horror) and eras as effectively as it does and I could see someone getting overhyped into some nonsense opining.



Back in the RT days, when Zulawski came up, I recall someone (and I think it was crumbs) mentioning one of his films was shit. I'm very certain it was either That Most Important Thing, Love or The Public Woman, but am struggling to remember which, and I want to guess the latter.

This is relevant because I finally watched the former probably about two weeks ago and the latter tonight (they've been in the collection for years). I'm kind of struggling with the latter, so I just wanting to check if it's only me.



Back in the RT days, when Zulawski came up, I recall someone (and I think it was crumbs) mentioning one of his films was shit. I'm very certain it was either That Most Important Thing, Love or The Public Woman, but am struggling to remember which, and I want to guess the latter.

This is relevant because I finally watched the former probably about two weeks ago and the latter tonight (they've been in the collection for years). I'm kind of struggling with the latter, so I just wanting to check if it's only me.

Feme Publique is definitely omy least favorite of his initial run of movies. I found it sort of boring, which I've never felt with anything else of his. Not even Cosmos, which is the one I thought was his worst...but not exactly boring



Victim of The Night
Hey, by the way, it's been a solid dozen years since I saw Let Sleeping Corpses Lie, aka The Living Dead At Manchester Morgue. I really liked it then but I'm being pretty selective with my Horrorthon slots this year.
What sayeth the council?



Hey, by the way, it's been a solid dozen years since I saw Let Sleeping Corpses Lie, aka The Living Dead At Manchester Morgue. I really liked it then but I'm being pretty selective with my Horrorthon slots this year.
What sayeth the council?
I am also interested in the answer to this, as the film just popped up on VuduFree



I haven't seen it in years either and keep meaning to rewatch it but never get around to it.


I guess it's a game of chicken between who here (re)watches it first.



Victim of The Night
I am also interested in the answer to this, as the film just popped up on VuduFree
You haven't seen it?!
For some reason I felt like you were gonna be one of the people to give me the dope.