I fairly new to the board and working through this long thread has been fascinating!
Welcome to the board...Did you read the entire thread? If so, impressive.
My first conclusion is that there have been a lot of bad movies made. A lot of them were not serious attempts to make a good film. More interesting were instances of serious artists attempting to make good art and for it to turn out unpopular.
Most 'bad movies' weren't really made to be anything other than 'fun entertainment'. So they aren't at the same level of 'bad' as a serious director who makes a serious film that seemingly goes awry and so is really 'bad' (according to some of course.)
Most interesting to me are the posts listing movies that couldn't be finished where some of the films on the list I agreed were bad sitting right next to movies that I loved or were even favorites! How do tastes in film even work?
Individually, very individually
Most of the movies that made someone's "execrable" list I could understand why they didn't like it even if I loved it. It is interesting all the criteria people possess to be put-off by a film. For instance, I love "Solaris" (2007) and each time I watch it I end up having great discussions about it. But as I watch the movie, I perceive immediately that most people would not like that film. I think it is difficult to make a good and popular movie. 'You can't please all of the people all of the time."
I'd venture a guess and say people hate
Solaris (2007) because it's a Hollywood remake of a classic Soviet film that they love. And of course the 2007 version is different than the original and that pisses movie viewers off too. Myself I seen the 2007 version first and liked it. Then I watched the original and really liked it too. So I'm kind of rare in that I like both versions.
One interesting recurrent theme is "boring" and people falling asleep while watching a film. Do we have a lot of sleep deprived movie watchers? Are some films being victimized by screen fatigue and binging?
I turn off a film not because of boredom but because I get annoyed with it. If I am in the wrong mood for a film, the action and violence can come across as cacophonous, or an earnest melodrama can take me out of the picture and come across as pretentious, comedy can come off as stupid, if there are not some characters in a film that I can like and Identify with, that movie is doomed to annoy me.
I've turned off films because I'm annoyed, but if I'm annoyed with the story telling/movie making then I become un-engaged and that bores me. I've also fallen asleep during films I love just because it was late at night and I was really tired.
I've never walked out of a theater on a film and have only wanted to once ("The Mission" 1986. Man, I was NOT in the mood for that heavy movie and there is a scene of DeNiro struggling to climb a cliff in the rain and the director focusing endlessly on his muddy feet that had me gnashing my teeth. If I wasn't with a date, I would have been outta there. Never have tried to watch that film again.).
I seen
The Mission and had a vastly different experience than you, here's a link to my short
review of The Mission.
But the flat truth is that I am a member of a certain demographic and relatively few films are really made with me in mind. So, most movies made are bound to fall flat with me.
That's an interesting statement and it caught my interest. If you don't mind me asking what demographic are you and why don't most films work for you? Maybe I even have some suggestions you might like, who knows?
But, my real reason to reply to this thread is to express my disbelief that in a 117 page thread of stinker movies that includes numerous top award winning films that no one has mentioned "Showgirls" (1995) LOL!
That's because:
WARNING: "Showgirls" spoilers below
Showgirls rocks!
Showgirls rocks!