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12-08-21
aw, i haven't seen Y tu mamá también in yearrrrs. it was so sad, but really good. i should probably watch it again.

i'm still mourning that i didn't put Still Walking on my list, it's seriously suchhh a good film. again, another sad movie but it kinda gives you that homey comfort feeling you get after watching a Studio Ghibli film, except it's not animated. iunno.

so far none of these movies have been on my list but i'm not unhappy with the choices too much yet.
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12-08-21
And we are OFF and RUNNING -- SWEET

For One Pointers:
I've seen Anger Management (2003) and f@ckin hated it (I'm talking to YOU Sandler) I think it was one my FINAL, F@CK HIM, I'm DONE or right around there. And never looked back and all the more holly jolly for it.
Have not seen Atonement (2007) would like to with Knightley and McAvoy whom I both love.
Beyond the Sea (2004) was pretty cool. Spacey was great playing the crooner Bobby Darin. Not extraordinary but a very entertaining film.
Blade II (2002) was a fun sequel to the first film, going all out on the action.
Bon Cop Bad Cop (2006) was an enjoyable lil buddy-cop film, eh.
The Bucket List (2007) was better than I expected it to be. Not memorable but enjoyable
Really NEED to see Frida (2002)
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist (2002) is silly, silly fun
National Treasure (2004) is a great little puzzle action flick
Spider-Man 3 (2007) Raimi started running out of speed with the Spider-Man series but still worthwhile
Surf's Up (2007) Like @Miss Vicky I see this one once or twice a year or more. If I didn't already have several animations on my list it would have made it.

A Bittersweet Life (2005) is mine.



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A highly stylized South Korean gangster popcorn-muncher with substance. Starring one of my faves, Lee Byung-hun and directed by Jee-woon Kim.



One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)
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12-08-21
Anyway, time for me to jump in... I've seen both, and I think both are excellent, but I haven't seen Y Tu Mamá También in a loooong time, so I didn't think it was fair to include it. Mother, on the other hand, I have in very high esteem, and even included it on my Foreign Film ballot for the last countdown. It's my favorite Bong film and I had it at #23 for this one.

Seen: 2/6

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12-08-21
Originally Posted by rauldc14
Pretty insane how we are in the 90s and to make the list requires the film to be on 6 lists
Technically, no, since there are a couple that will come up while only being on 4 or 5 ballots, but I understand your point about the "hardships" of making the list

EDIT: Both of tomorrow's entries made it on 5 and 4 ballots respectively but both were pretty high on those ballots, especially the one that made it on 4 ballots.
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12-08-21
Unlike most people who see it, I find Mother only passable, but I like it a bit more than I used to. I can't even explain it since everything's in place (acting, directing, photography), but I just don't find it that suspenseful.

I think more of Y tu mamá también, but again it's difficult to explain why. Maybe you can just write my opinions off because of my weird relationships with my "Mothers".
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12-08-21
Out of the first six I have seen four.
I have been on the fence about The New World and may have to rectify that.


Master and Commander: It's been a while since I saw this slow burner with an amazing focus on detail on a British ship but I do remember being quite taken by it.

The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou had its moments but for the most part, it was a bit of a chore for me to get through.

I had Mother (2009) at #17
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Mother aka Madeo (2009)

Reminding me of a similar extraordinary aspect when I watched Edith Evans in the 24th Hof's The Whisperers, I was captivated by Hye-ja Kim playing a slightly off-centered mother; her simple son getting accused of murder and her willingness to do everything for her beloved child. It is played out within the dark-humored, well-spun tale and Bong Joon Ho's jaw-dropping turn of events. A top-of-the-line quality, style, f@ckin amusing, HOLY SH#T predecessor to Parasite.

One of the many aspects of adoration that drew me into Asian films is the poetry and symmetry that are astonishingly blended within such tragically dark and graphic events. While one may express it as excessive when commenting on South Korean cinema, it is imbued with a poetic nuance.
For me, Madeo is one such film in a sea of. And oh how I do adore the swim!

Complimenting Hye-ja Kim's performance is Won Bin as Mother's equally captivating slow-witted son, Yoon Do-joon.

rounding out the two main characters and their relationship. Won Bin endears you to the good-intentioned young man who doesn't like to be called "retard".
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Y Tu Mama Tambien


What is on the surface is rarely what is beneath. . .

And so exactly is this movie.
From the onset, knowing nothing of this movie and avoiding all the spoiler alerts, I had really begun to wonder: Wha da f@ck kinda softcore porn is this?? And then, the third act's reveal of what it really was about left me, jaw gaping, all the way to the final CUT SCENE: "Check please,"

Wow.

Much like Romper Stomper's realistic, unforgiving violence or Withnail & I (two other films in the HoF I had watched this) and I's unrepentant search for the next drunk, so is this film's use of sex. It is real, not glamorized, or with romantic aplomb and you are made aware from the very opening scene and much like the other films, there is something far more going on beneath its consistently sexual situations. And while I was already familiar with Romper and had a pretty good idea about Withnail, I was VERY pleasantly surprised to discover a similar depth to Y Tu Mama Tambien and with it.
It all came together.
The almost Tour Guide style of Narration kept me scowling for a large part of the movie and eventually succumbing to the trivia until I became engrossed by it.
Luisita's true reasons for being so upset and the deeper reason for going on a road trip and that final scene of her diving into the ocean with complete abandon along with cherishing her time with the children.
All of this culminated in the final and somber coffee scene.

BRAVO



Films Watched 4 out of 6 (80%)
17. Mother (#96)


One Pointers: 10 out of 38 (26.31%)



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12-08-21
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules
Seen Y Tu Mama but not a fan, though it is visually captivating...no I don't mean that part



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12-08-21
I’ve seen Mother. It was great, but didn’t make my ballot. I’ve seen part of Y Tu Mamá También but not all of it, although I have it on dvd.



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12-08-21
Finally, two films I've actually seen, and one from my list!

I don't remember why, but Y tu mamá también came up at work the other day. Maybe it was foreshadowing? I like the film well enough, but it wasn't in contention for my ballot.

Mother on the other hand, was one of the first films I thought of when writing up my preliminary list, though perhaps that's because I rewatched it fairly recently (when I nominated it for a Hall of Fame). It has some pacing issues in the second half, but I just really enjoy the overall tone, and Kim Hye-ja's performance was perfect. I ultimately placed it at #8.

Seen: 2/6

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08. Mother (2009) - #96
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25. Bon Cop, Bad Cop (2006) - 1-pointer



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12-08-21
Mother was one of the last five or six I cut from my ballot so I am happy to see it make the collective list. Y tu Mamá También is a good movie and certainly an important turning point in Alfonso Cuarón's career, coming off of The Little Princess and Great Expectations, but it wouldn't quite crack my top one hundred and definitely not a ballot with only twenty-five spots. He only made two other features in the decade and one of them is in my top ten (and it does not involve wizards).
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12-08-21
I've acquired #95 Y tu mamá también on DVD about a decade ago and then I've watched it for the first and last time. It is a good movie but couldn't make my list of favorites of the 2000's.

So far seen: 3/6
none of them in my list.
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12-08-21
I'm still following along more or less (chyp, your bet is still on the board). I've not seen either of the last two, though Mother seems to creep up on me from time to time catching my attention briefly only to then get distracted by some of other flick in my watch list. I made a deliberate choice to NOT watch Y tu mamá también as a coworker, years ago, rented it and raved about it. I kinda hated the coworker. Well, hate is too strong of a word (as she would say) but she was just too damn bubbly and superficial for my preference. She rented way back in the DVD by mail version of Netflix. She was the type that loved food because of how it looked or that it was a fashionable thing to eat rather than taste. That was always difficult for me to process so I never really gave her nods to films much credit for similar judgments. Yeah. I know that's weird, but it's how my brain clunks.

One day I will finally catch Mother. Not likely that I'll watch the other.
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12-08-21
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Some info about #96, Mother...



It currently has a 96% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.8/10 score on IMDb (with 60,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★½ and said:
"The film is labyrinthine and deceptive, and not in a way we anticipate. It becomes a pleasure for the mind. Long after a conventional thriller would have its destination in plain sight, Mother is still penetrating our assumptions."
While Noah Gittell, of the Washington City Paper, said:
"Bong's clever screenplay and its heroic lead performance elevate a well-worn premise into a mesmerizing film."
As for our MoFo reviewers, @Okay said:
"This incredibly told story deserves to be seen immediately! With its moving score, enthralling cinematography, clever screenplay and thick plot, it leaves no room for technical mistakes, which makes this one of the best dramatic thrillers I have ever watched."



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And some info about #95, Y Tu Mamá También...



It currently has a 92% Certified Fresh Tomatometer score among critics, and a 7.6/10 score on IMDb (with 120,000 votes).

Roger Ebert gave it ★★★★ and said:
"The movie is another trumpet blast that there may be a New Mexican Cinema a-bornin'. Like Amores Perros, which also stars Gael Garcia Bernal, it is an exuberant exercise in interlocking stories. But these interlock not in space and time, but in what is revealed, what is concealed, and in the parallel world of poverty through which the rich characters move."
Meanwhile James Berardinelli, of Reelviews, said:
"It's not as awful as some of the recent Hollywood trip tripe ... but it's far from a groundbreaking endeavor."
As for our MoFo reviewers, @Citizen Rules said:
"I loved the you-are-there cinematography, as it was like we were along for the ride in the Mexican countryside. Some road trip movies short change the viewer as we don't really get to see much of the road trip, but here we get to see a lot of amazing scenes in Mexico. Which I enjoyed as it reminded me of vacations I took there."
And @Nope1172 said:
"The film deals with many complex themes and subject matters, and not in a way that you feel like it is being shoved in your face. Throughout the film, the characters are constantly unaware of their surroundings, and focused on their own selfish needs. This is something that I found incredibly powerful, and I think this film features one of the best uses of narration."

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