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I don't know, it might depend on what you're aiming for with "bad". I'm going to draw blanks on the title of some movies here, but... I saw a movie a couple years back that was a slasher, rock band serial killer movie. When people actually spoke, it was that kind of weird, attempt at trying to mimic human language that's just weird and bizarre. And then you'd get 5 minutes of dead space. No one really doing anything, not well lit, no sound. Now, both the dialogue and the dead space were inept film making, but the former was entertaining and demonstrated its ineptness. The latter was more just dull that could become painful to watch in certain circumstances; and would be considered more unwatchable. But would I consider it to be "worse"? (relatedly, maybe you're looking for Santa Claus and the Ice Cream Bunny.
I don't know how Tintorera: Killer Shark compares to the Jess Franco movie you're currently watching. It's probably more entertaining and not nearly as inept as the other movies we've listed. Cardona Jr. always struck me more as lazy than inept in his filmmaking. But maybe lazy is more in line with what you're looking for?).

Anyhow, an inept softcore porn did cross my mind. The Jaws porn parody, Gums. Given the part that sticks out the most in my mind, I'd say, make sure you get the uncensored version for the full experience.

In the set of bad movie canon (that getting into some I haven't seen):
There's also a bad movie bible. Which, if this is the movie book, I think there's this one guy who made a host of movies that are described in there that are basically projects in narcissism (he stars in them, and his characters... well, one of them, he's basically a god).

Some other mainstream well known bad movie classics that I've never seen coming to mind: The Apple, Hard Ticket to Hawaii, and R.A.D. fwiw

I think I'm done with softcore for now. I shut it off and now I'm watching White Cannibal Queen. Apparently Franco hated it. He considerd it one of his worst ever.

Well, I'm not a medical professional, but I would guess all of the masks would become less effective when soaked. But some comfort in those masks is remembering, back in the early part of the pandemic, the line about masks was, they were intended more to protect other people from you spreading the virus than protecting yourself. But, those masks, "when worn properly" are what medical professionals where to protect themselves. At least, that's my memory from the early days of the pandemic. I still have yet to go back to the theater myself. There's an independent theater nearby that I probably will eventually return to this fall. But it's a place that does the whole, "one night only of a film from 50 years ago," as their primary type of programming (so their crowds are usually smaller in size). And according to their site, they require both proof of vaccination and masks. We all have our own risk thresholds, but for me, that seems safe enough to make it out occassionally.

You're not livin' right.

My city is closed.

Basically the way the film takes all the subtext of the original film and has every single character speak overtly about the meaning and what it all represents. Then...



While the craft was more than enough to keep me going and I found the leads a pleasure to watch, I just wish they'd found a way to layer in the meaning organically. As is, it almost reaches the third Black Christmas in levels of characters telling you "this is the important social commentary of this film" at every moment.

That said, it's easily my second favorite Candyman and I'll pick up the blu.

Fair points. It's definitely weaker than the 1992 Candyman and a couple more rounds of editing would've helped. Like you, I also noticed that it contradicted its themes a couple times throughout (though, I think it hits much more than it misses the mark).

Overall, I still enjoyed it quite a bit, but I'm not sure how well it would hold up with a rewatch.

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I think a lot of the ideas it explores, in particular about art exploiting black suffering (in a film that arguably does just that) are provocative and ripe for exploration but I feel like DeCosta/Peele/thatotherdude were more interested in announcing those ideas than assessing them in a meaningful way.*

Overall, I agree with you. As I said, I'm a great admirer of DeCosta's deft hand behind the camera (her previous film Little Woods is fantastic) and she brings a LOT to the table stylistically and atmospherically. I think both Mateen and Parris are fantastic and that reframing the story of Candyman to finally center around black leads (rather than blonde white women of decreasing acting ability with each entry) was a necessary choice that paid off.*

As a horror movie, it still works and hits a lot of right notes. But as something that proves itself as important and intelligent as this film aims to be, it falls short and I can't help but feel a tad disappointed.

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Captain Terror, I love your avatar. Is it from a movie?

It's from Return to the Planet of the Apes (episode: Lagoon of Peril)

While it isn't as well-reviewed as the new one, Tubi did just make the original Candyman available to watch for free on their site, if anyone's interested: https://tubitv.com/movies/585129/candyman?start=true

This looks compelling.
I've heard of the but never seen it or talked to anyone who has.
Reminds me a bit (just a bit) of one of my less-appreciated favorites, She-Wolf Of London.

Same director!

For ages I've been excited to see Queen of Spades, and it just got added to Kanopy!

EDIT: Who is the big Queen of Spades fan? Captain Terror?

Mr Crumbcakes is the one that introduced me to it, I believe.

Say no more.
*adds to list of movies to definitely be watched if they can be found*

I've also intended to watch that for a long time.
What is Kanopy?

She Wolf of London is actually a good comparison, because the viewer of both films might find themselves thinking "is this a horror movie?"
But the difference is that Creeper very much looks like a horror film, and as I said the climax takes us to wacky-town in a way that She Wolf or even Cat People doesn't.

I watched it on my phone during the blackout, but the Youtube clip I posted is in 720p, so it should be watchable on a decent sized screen.

If you have a library card, many libraries subscribe to a service called Kanopy. You can watch 10 movies a month on it, and it has a pretty good selection of newer and older films.