Maybe we need to do a War Films Countdown next?
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Like many genres, "War Film" is problematic. All Quiet On the Western Front and Platoon are obviously war films. But what about Schindler's List which doesn't cover combat? What about Coming Home? What about Henry V? What about The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers? What about Starship Troopers? What about Dr. Strangelove? What about Duck Soup?
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If you guys wanna talk future countdowns and the complications they entail, don't forget to put them here, or they're just not gonna be seen long-term:
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I love that act on its own. I think that its surreal and bizarre nature as well as Kurtz' demeanor works as a great contrast to all the chaos and insanity leading there. But aside from that, I give props to Coppola for crafting something workable (letalone as good as I think it turned out) from all the mess he had to deal with, so it works for me on those two levels.
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Apocalypse Now was a classic I took awhile to see, admired well enough when I saw it, but really have no emotional connection to and no plans to watch again any time soon. That's usually my reaction to any film that spends a lot of time detailing someone's degrading mental state. I can appreciate its ability to try to put the sound-minded into a contrary situation, but it's not the kind of thing I feel the impulse to revisit, or find enjoyable on a deep level.
But, I am also old enough to remember the emotional fallout from Vietnam and that whole mess of a war. No glory, just confusion and division. So, I can appreciate a film like this dealing with the mix of emotions with which so many were striving to deal. It captures what my teenage self remembers "feeling" during that time, without having actually been there.
But I too never feel I need to rewatch this one, for a lot of those same reasons. It just makes me feel too raw.
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My list:
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Apocalypse Now is a worthy contender, though I went with other Coppola films for my list.
My sentiments exactly.
Considering how The Great Escape, Grave of Fireflies and Pianist would most probably won't feature on this list now, I support doing this countdown.
That sound was my tears falling as my Fargo hopes were dashed.
I think Apocalypse Now is really great. I definitely need to see it for a second time. Just bummed Fargo didn't even hit the 100. I really thought it was the most popular Coen.
I think Apocalypse Now is really great. I definitely need to see it for a second time. Just bummed Fargo didn't even hit the 100. I really thought it was the most popular Coen.
Apocalypse Now, I only seen it once and like two decades ago, so I don't remember it well. Though from what I remember I would prefer Platoon over it. Speaking of Platoon did it not make the countdown at all? Maybe we need to do a War Films Countdown next?
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My prediction:
1. The Godfather
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. Jaws
4. Casablanca
5. Blade Runner
6. Raiders of the Lost Ark
7. Pulp Fiction
8. Goodfellas
9. Citizen Kane
10. Apocalypse Now
1. The Godfather
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. Jaws
4. Casablanca
5. Blade Runner
6. Raiders of the Lost Ark
7. Pulp Fiction
8. Goodfellas
9. Citizen Kane
10. Apocalypse Now
I had Citizen Kane and Apocalypse Now reversed. I'm sticking with the remainder of my prediction.
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My view of Apocalypse Now is tainted because I saw the overly long Redux version and I would much rather have seen the Theatrical Cut. I might have liked it more than I did.
Due for a revisit though.
Due for a revisit though.
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Re: original vs. Redux, I agree with the general consensus that (whatever my issues with it) the original cut is preferable to the Redux cut. The added scenes work better individually than collectively and drag down the pace.
On another topic, The Princess Bride was one of my final cuts; it would easily make my personal Top 100. It's an absolute treasure.
On another topic, The Princess Bride was one of my final cuts; it would easily make my personal Top 100. It's an absolute treasure.
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Quick question for the group, perhaps a naive one: Why all the love for Goodfellas as a top-ten? I mean, I loved it myself and have rewatched it many times... but I wouldn't see it as a top-ten pick. What's the appeal? What makes it iconic or classic enough to make the top ten here? (Not disparaging--really, just asking.)
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As with most reduxes, I don't think the redux to Apocalypse Now adds much to the theatrical version's themes and more or less bloats its runtime. I greatly prefer the original cut.
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I liked the French Plantation stuff but the Playboy girls part was a waste of time, can't remember what else off hand was in the Redux.
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Quick question for the group, perhaps a naive one: Why all the love for Goodfellas as a top-ten? I mean, I loved it myself and have rewatched it many times... but I wouldn't see it as a top-ten pick. What's the appeal? What makes it iconic or classic enough to make the top ten here? (Not disparaging--really, just asking.)
I likes the French Plantation stuff but the Playboy girls part was a waste of time, can't remember what else off hand was in the Redux.
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Quick question for the group, perhaps a naive one: Why all the love for Goodfellas as a top-ten? I mean, I loved it myself and have rewatched it many times... but I wouldn't see it as a top-ten pick. What's the appeal? What makes it iconic or classic enough to make the top ten here? (Not disparaging--really, just asking.)
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I demand still frames of these playgirls, so as to judge for myself. In a very clinical and academic way, of course!
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Couldn't you ask that of any and every film on this list, top ten or not? Personal taste, I reckon. I happen to think it is Scorsese's masterpiece among masterpieces. I guess enough other MoFos agree?
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Couldn't you ask that of any and every film on this list, top ten or not? Personal taste, I reckon. I happen to think it is Scorsese's masterpiece among masterpieces. I guess enough other MoFos agree?
I would say it's my most likely to just watch if it's on TV.
As with most reduxes, I don't think the redux to Apocalypse Now adds much to the theatrical version's themes and more or less bloats its runtime. I greatly prefer the original cut.
To me Coppola's recuts (he has also recut The Cotton Club and most recently The Godfather Part III) feel more like the because-I-can camp. But whatevs.
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Even if my list was strictly objective I think Goodfellas would still be there. That long introduction. The frantic storytelling with narration. The stylized use of music. Goodfellas did it best and has been being copied ever since, no?
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