Are these female lead remakes are getting out of hand now?

Stirchley's not a sir, you git.

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Well it's interesting that, because the Master's – as yet – sole female incarnation is part of his new regeneration cycle. And yet the Corsair, mentioned prior to Matt Smith's final story already had a mix of sexes in his/her original cycle of bodies. So in series continuity there would have been nothing to explain — Moffat could have introduced a female Doctor after Matt Smith. Instead I believe that he was testing the water in having a female Master first.

When you think, there was a hint of bisexuality with Bond in Skyfall. To be honest though, I saw that as Bond deftly countering Silva's attempts to mess with him psychologically.

How about James Bond as a ugly, short, black, overweight and gay man? So progressive!

Sean Connery is a hell of an actor .

I'm still torn between "let women/POC play Bond to annoy the regressives" and "women/POC deserve better than to be stuck playing an inherently regressive character like Bond".

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I mean... I only know the newer movies, about 5... based on that I don't get "inherently regressive"...

I don't know your insides yet. *sharpens knife*
Sorry, @Yoda. Better luck next time!

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Look, I'm not judging you - after all, I'm posting here myself, but maybe, just maybe, if you spent less time here and more time watching films, maybe, and I stress, maybe your taste would be of some value. Just a thought, ya know.

I think the lesson is that quality still sells in the end, they got away with one dodgy film in The Force Awakens based on built up hype then avoided much of a backlash by putting out a film most fans enjoyed in Rogue One before really hitting the rocks with Last Jedi.

Oh I was just talking about action movies, cause we were talking about the idea of a female Bond, and the Bond movies are action movies overall.

I think of they made a female Bond a lesbian though, a lot of viewers would respond negatively, thinking of it as a cop out, thinking it was probably done just to titillate the male audience, rather than going for any kind of extreme.

He's been around since the '50s so significant parts of his character development seem pretty dated (if not genuinely offensive) by modern standards (a key example being the way in which he - and by extension the series - tends to treat female characters as disposable sexual conquests). While newer versions of the character have attempted to reinvent or criticise Bond because of these flaws, they're still so ingrained into the appeal of his character that he can't (or won't) be changed too much and so he's effectively stuck this way as a result even as they can try to deconstruct the character (and even then the deconstructions themselves aren't guaranteed to be good).

I don't see how seeing the opposite sex as sexual conquests is an old fashion way of behaving. There are plenty of both men and women who do that to the opposite sex in modern times, and it's still common.

The context of how it happens in Bond movies is what matters here, though - most of the time he does it as part of his mission, often through means that come across as uncomfortably coercive or manipulative, and there's a good chance that the women in question end up being killed as a result (hence the emphasis on these women being quite literally "disposable"). Considering how Bond is framed as the hero of these relatively light adventure stories, it's notable how often this kind of collateral damage is more or less glossed over for the sake of preserving the franchise's gentleman-spy fantasy even in recent "serious" installments like Skyfall.

Hey, I didn't know.

I'm not sure you could say its been glossed over in recent films that have made a much more direct effort to point out that Bond's using of these women leads to their deaths.

It just seems to me that Bond is a franchise most suited to going in this direction, not to just have the character fighting against social injustice but as a comment on it.

I felt by far the best thing about Spectre was the romance in it were she's very clearly aware of his nature and is not prepared to be a temporary conquest.

The best you can say is that they're trying to be better (which they arguably also tried to do with Brosnan and Dalton as well), which naturally prompts the question of whether or not they're succeeding. I do know that Casino Royale definitely did draw attention to the issue and, to a lesser extent, so did Quantum of Solace, hence why I singled out Skyfall because it was a notable backwards step in regards to how it treated its solitary Bond girl. As for Spectre, well, it's pretty standard for Bond girls to not carry over from one film to the next so I guess we have to wait until the next one to see if that bucks the trend at all.

I would say the difference really is that you don't have a main romantic interest in Skyfall, you have Gong Li playing a similar role to the mid film Bond girls who get used to their deaths highlighted in a similar kind of fashion.

Probably the dodgiest thing about that film for me was how hard it pushed the case for unaccountable intelligence services.

Gong Li? They wish .

There's usually a pattern to Bond movies where, if there's more than one good Bond girl, then at least one of them isn't going to make it to the end (which arguably extends to any "bad" Bond girls who he convinces to help him only for them to be punished by the villain/s). Where does Gong Li fit in? She wasn't in any Bond movies.

As for the bit about intelligence services, again, I think that's symptomatic of how the Bond franchise can't get too "serious" about who he is and what he does without it starting to come apart at the seams a little. It was easy enough to build stories around him facing off against lone megalomaniacs where any real-world politics can be minimised, but it gets trickier as it tries to get more overt about grounding things in reality.

As long as one behaves decently and is honest, seeing others as sexual conquests with no strings attached isn't inherently bad, obviously. That's just "casual sex" between adults... not all sexual contact must be in the context of romance. We're not in the 30's.
But I guess Bond has been indecent in several places, particularly older movies.
I however cannot remember anything really coercive or rude in the (newer) movies I watched. Which doesn't mean it wasn't there... I personally never saw the "womanizing" part of Bond to be important, nor did I focus on it.
I think that is a good method for tension. Hoping that all goes well this time...