More EU Madness!

Chris, how is this argument any different than that of Churchill vs. Baldwin and then Chamberlain and virtually everyone else in the British government of the time? “Calm down, Winnie. You worry too much. You’re an alarmist.”? You call this being without substance? The only difference now that I can discern is that we have the benefit of their historical precedent.

It's different because you're not Winston Churchill, and you're not arguing about it with Parliament.

(There's also a number of other fallacies and misconceptions here, but the first order of business is clearing up the confusion--noted earlier, without response--between "this is important" and "it's important I inundate a movie message board with arguments about it.")

Winston would have dominated this website.

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I'm a baby boomer too though not yet retired. Frankly, since I depend on a liberal profession, I don't see how I can retire any time soon. Our pensions are whittled down a little more every year; the national health service is suffering severe cutbacks and I need private health insurance to make up the lack, this while being taxed at 45% on income with another 11% going towards social security. Add to that the million and one others taxes, tariffs and duties we have to pay (including 23% VAT) and I estimate the State takes a cool 80% of what I earn. Add to that that my little country has one of the highest public debts in the world (which will have to be payed back one day) and the future is not rosy. I doubt my kids will have any kind of social benefits let alone my grandkids.

It's been proven again and again that socialism does not work yet we keep trying to make the round hole fit the square peg....madness!

Yeah I was wondering about that. Seemed-to-be-so-then-maybe-not-you-can-talk-but-only -in-a-certain-way-and-about-certain-things-but-others-are-taboo... then BOOM threads are closed just because.

Very confusing policies here.

It seems to be working pretty well for the Nordic countries, although, they would probably not call themselves socialist, but more like Nordic capitalist. I think the problem we have is that we moved away from capitalism and are in a plutocracy now. The whole "government for the people, by the people" part seem to have been lost or at the very least is quickly vanishing.

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You've just broken the first rule of Fight Club!

(Note - this post is in reference to the MOVIE Fight Club. It's a movie. It's not political. It's a fictional movie about weird stuff.)
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Aw heck... I know what happens next.

The Nordic counties have tiny populations, are extremely law abiding and hard working and some of them have incredible oil wealth. I would not hold them up as an example that the rest of the world can follow. Anyway, they are also entering the baby boomer retirement age so let's see how that works out in the future, eh? And Sweden seems to be heading for complete self destruction with the crazy policies they have been following. I doubt there will be a native Swede left in 60 years if they continue their mad open door policy. And their crime rates are certainly transforming what used to be a peaceful, law abiding society.

Meanwhile, waiting for the vaccination commentary re: the OP...

They're pretty straightforward, actually, and it's probably not a coincidence that the only people who think otherwise are the ones who find them getting in the way of their compulsion.

But I realize pretending to be confused is how you sidestep things you won't or can't respond to, so this reply is more for everybody else.

I a fan of a boy named Sue!

Chris, honestly, some of us would love to respond.
It's not that we can't, but only that we are now much more cautious about doing so because we don't want to get other people's threads closed since that has become a recent pattern when some of us do respond.
You can't close threads, ending discussions and then say people are sidestepping because they won't or can't respond.

We discussed this - of course people are sidestepping (or "walking on eggshells" if you will?) when they've learned that they have to be very careful what they say, who they might upset, what kind of conversation truthful or sincere responses might set off, and what the consequences of "starting an argument," disagreeing or repeating the same points might be.

You've got to be kidding me, Cap. You've been stirring this hot bed up for weeks then want to blame Yoda for it. Really?

I don't perceive a hot bed. For me this is a discussion board.
I'm not "blaming" merely responding honestly to something Yoda wrote.

Back to the OP.

So europe has gone mad because of a couple of lawsuits against big pharma for vax. How many has USA had? What does the HRSA say?

I guess it doesn't really matter because that wasnt the point of this thread, was it Don?

That may be why you refrain from commenting on some things, but for others, it's pretty obvious just a tactless evasion.

Regardless, if you think back on all these exchanges, you should notice that none of those closures have cut off any substantive discussion about the rules--even the questioning of them. To the contrary, I've responded to every such complaint in granular detail, every time. Any fear that I'm going to close a thread because someone questions a moderation decision is unfounded, being supported neither in what I've said, or what I've done.

Well said. I agree 100%. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

The frequency with which these responses are just mindless cheerleading is yet another piece of evidence that this isn't about persuasion. So thanks for making my point, while ostensibly trying to (clumsily) ignore it.

I never saw Fight Club but have heard about it. No idea what it's about....

lol @ the idea that Fight Club isn't political

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