Live Action Musical Movie Hall of Fame

Tools    





Save the Texas Prairie Chicken
@Nestorio_Miklos I am happy to hear that you did like it. I was doubting myself for nominating it because I wondered how non-Americans would like it. I didn't know if the history aspect of it wouldn't be too appealing if someone weren't from America (or even Britain for that matter! - they are just as much involved in the story, technically speaking), but then I figured that I, personally, really enjoy history of almost any kind. So I thought that maybe it would be OK so long as others have somewhat of an interest in history in general. And, besides, I just think it is a gosh darn good musical!

I was not sure if it is at all appropriate to have this song intermezzos.
Well, it is based on a theatrical musical. The theater world never seems to care what they turn into musicals. And if you think 1776 had the potential to be inappropriate, it is nothing compared to a musical about presidential and wannabe presidential assassins. Yes, it does exist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassins_(musical)
And, quite frankly, it was one of the best shows that I'd ever seen in the theater.

I only found available the director’s cut version that was 2 hours and 41 minutes long versus the original theatrical release that was 20 minutes shorter and that was my third Skepticism
I always like it when a film is "complete" and the longer version is the somewhat complete version, which makes it more like the original stage production (there are still some parts missing). Unless you really know the film well, you won't know what bits were cut out before, but the most notable, and biggest cut, was the song "Cool, Cool Considerate Men". And, I won't go into anything too political here , but Richard Nixon played a big part in that song getting cut from the film. So I am very happy that it has been put in its rightful place in the story again.

But then when I got over the first half and understood the structure of it, I began to think that the songs are actually necessary for to give the story more importance and drama. The songs were actually giving the story more festivity as it has happened already and we now have our independence 241 years.
I like that you said that the songs made it more "festive". That is a good way to describe it, I think. And a reason I really like the songs added to this story is that, in its own funny way, it almost makes these people seem more "human". Yes, it isn't normal to suddenly burst into song and dance, but, for some reason, seeing these historical figures do so seems to make them more "real". I don't know if that is something I can make others understand what I mean, but that is how I have always felt about this.

I loved Saltpeter song duet, not sure about the name.
That song is called "Yours, Yours, Yours".

I am talking about the importance of wives of politicians in making an important decisions, making history
One interesting fact about the show (or movie, in this case ) is that the moments between John Adams and his wife, Abigail, are based on actual letters between the two of them. As is the final song John sings, "Is Anybody There?".

Great nomination SilentVamp. Thank you!
You're welcome! I am so glad that you enjoyed it!
__________________
I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity - Edgar Allan Poe



...a reason I really like the songs added to this story is that, in its own funny way, it almost makes these people seem more "human"...
I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true, I like that idea! All that singing and dancing made the founding fathers seem more like real people to me.



Women will be your undoing, Pépé
I'm really enjoying these write ups and all the bits of trivia when it comes to movies! Really gives me a number of layers to appreciate and enjoy them.
__________________
What I actually said to win MovieGal's heart:
- I might not be a real King of Kinkiness, but I make good pancakes
~Mr Minio



I'm really enjoying these write ups and all the bits of trivia when it comes to movies! Really gives me a number of layers to appreciate and enjoy them.
I agree, I like background on movies. I usually go to the internet after I watch each movie and read a bit about it. I should be watching your nom, Godspell, hopefully tonight. I've never seen it before so that will be an interesting first watch for me.



Women will be your undoing, Pépé
I think you just may enjoy it. Been a few decades for me since last I saw it and really need to.

with the trivia, normally I've enjoyed the blind runs, but with these musicals, they really do add to the enjoyment of them.



I think you just may enjoy it. Been a few decades for me since last I saw it and really need to.

with the trivia, normally I've enjoyed the blind runs, but with these musicals, they really do add to the enjoyment of them.
I missed your post from the other day.

There are also a couple of actors from the Bond movies in this as well. The Baron; Gert Fröbe played Goldfinger IN Goldfinger, the Baroness; Anna Quayle played Frau Hoffner in Casino Royale and Desmond Llewelyn, who played Coggins, the owner of the junkyard that Chitty was originally in, was Q in countless Bond movies. Q, of course, was the one that gave Bonds all his gadgets for every mission.
Wow! how did I miss The Baron as Goldfinger? I've seen all the old Bond films, and didn't recognize a one of them. Though I never did finish watching Casino Royale, so I guess that's my excuse for not noticingAnna Quayle. But I can't believe I didn't recognize the great Q, Desmond Llewelyn!



You can't make a rainbow without a little rain.
1776

Early Skepticism. I was quite sceptical before watching 1776 for the following reasons:
1. I think there is a mighty different approach from American watching the feature and non-American. Why? Let’s put aside the importance and influence in other countries of the very signing the United States Declaration of Independence. We all know how inspirational this historical event was for other countries to do the same. That is not the point. The point is that for American this event, whether he/she wants it or not, will be always resonating and echoing in his heart, brain, ears, memory as I believe this historical moment is a part of any American school curriculum starting from elementary school and throughout a high school or Universities History classes. It is part of your DNA so to speak. This said, non-American will always be lacking the closeness to the story.
@Nestorio_Miklos I am happy to hear that you did like it. I was doubting myself for nominating it because I wondered how non-Americans would like it. I didn't know if the history aspect of it wouldn't be too appealing if someone weren't from America (or even Britain for that matter! - they are just as much involved in the story, technically speaking), but then I figured that I, personally, really enjoy history of almost any kind. So I thought that maybe it would be OK so long as others have somewhat of an interest in history in general. And, besides, I just think it is a gosh darn good musical!

It's interesting that you're concerned about whether or not non-Americans would like 1776 because that was one of the first things I thought about when I saw that it was nominated.

I know that there are a lot of people here who aren't in the U.S., and I wasn't sure if these people would be interested in a movie about American history, especially since it's a musical. I'm curious to see the reviews of it because I almost nominated a movie with a similar issue.

My first choice for a nomination for this HoF was the movie Damn Yankees (1958), but I chose a different movie because it seemed to be very hard to find, and I didn't want people to have a hard time finding my nom. (Ironically that's exactly what happened with my nom in the other musical HoF. ) But the movie is about baseball, which is basically an American sport, so I didn't know if anyone here would even care about what was happening to the characters in the movie, so I guess in the long run, maybe the movie being hard to find might have been a blessing in disguise.
__________________
.
If I answer a game thread correctly, just skip my turn and continue with the game.
OPEN FLOOR.



You can't make a rainbow without a little rain.
I like that you said that the songs made it more "festive". That is a good way to describe it, I think. And a reason I really like the songs added to this story is that, in its own funny way, it almost makes these people seem more "human". Yes, it isn't normal to suddenly burst into song and dance, but, for some reason, seeing these historical figures do so seems to make them more "real". I don't know if that is something I can make others understand what I mean, but that is how I have always felt about this.
I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true, I like that idea! All that singing and dancing made the founding fathers seem more like real people to me.

Just think, if they sang the song "But Mr. Adams" in a different order, someone else would have written the Declaration of Independence, and we would have had a whole different document.



It's interesting that you're concerned about whether or not non-Americans would like 1776 because that was one of the first things I thought about when I saw that it was nominated.

...I almost nominated a movie with a similar issue...Damn Yankees (1958)...the movie is about baseball, which is basically an American sport, so I didn't know if anyone here would even care about what was happening to the characters in the movie, so I guess in the long run, maybe the movie being hard to find might have been a blessing in disguise.
I have to disagree with that. I don't like baseball but I really liked Damn Yankees. I don't like country western music, yet I like all of the musical artist bio pics on country western singers. I don't think the subject matter is as important as if the movie is entertaining or not.




Godspell (1973)

S.o.r.r.y Ed, (you know when I start off a review with an apology, it ain't going to be good)...OMG! what did I just watch Wow...that was painful and not in any good way I've never seen a bigger bunch of dimwitted kooks, parading around, making faces and acting like Sesame Street rejects. Even worse was the unfunny attempt at clowning around for the camera, Ugh...and those silly voices they did It was like a hippie commune where the inmates had escaped for the day, to go hopping and skipping around a strangely empty New York City. Which brings me to the silver lining



OMG the scenes of NYC were amazing. This is like a time machine back to the early 70s. The groovy face painted kooks...err I mean kids, do go to some very impressive spots in the city. The camera shot of NYC from the top of the Twin Towers was amazing...Equally impressive was the scene done on the old abandoned waterfront wharf...Love the cinematography in this movie....Just look at this camera shot below...amazing.



And the whole movie is like that. Loved the bridge arch scene when the camera shows us the bridge's arches lined up and receding into the background, then pans down to show us our ragamuffin friends frolicking on the grass.

As much as the characters annoyed me, I'm glad Godspell was nominated as I had wanted to see it, and now I have. But mostly I'm glad for all the amazing background scenes of New York City (if they could just release a director's cut without the cast members, that would be great)
Attachments
Click image for larger version

Name:	Godspell (3).jpg
Views:	1200
Size:	339.4 KB
ID:	29479   Click image for larger version

Name:	Godspell (1).jpg
Views:	306
Size:	140.5 KB
ID:	29480   Click image for larger version

Name:	Godspell (4).jpg
Views:	413
Size:	210.6 KB
ID:	29481  



Women will be your undoing, Pépé
not a problem!!

since its been several decades I'm wondering if the kid in me will be happy to see it again or if the grouchy old b@stard will roll his eyes. . .

I DO remember the amazing shots from this and glad to see how much you enjoyed them!




Godspell (1973)

S.o.r.r.y Ed, (you know when I start off a review with an apology, it ain't going to be good)...OMG! what did I just watch Wow...that was painful and not in any good way I've never seen a bigger bunch of dimwitted kooks, parading around, making faces and acting like Sesame Street rejects. Even worse was the unfunny attempt at clowning around for the camera, Ugh...and those silly voices they did It was like a hippie commune where the inmates had escaped for the day, to go hopping and skipping around a strangely empty New York City. Which brings me to the silver lining



OMG the scenes of NYC were amazing. This is like a time machine back to the early 70s. The groovy face painted kooks...err I mean kids, do go to some very impressive spots in the city. The camera shot of NYC from the top of the Twin Towers was amazing...Equally impressive was the scene done on the old abandoned waterfront wharf...Love the cinematography in this movie....Just look at this camera shot below...amazing.



And the whole movie is like that. Loved the bridge arch scene when the camera shows us the bridge's arches lined up and receding into the background, then pans down to show us our ragamuffin friends frolicking on the grass.

As much as the characters annoyed me, I'm glad Godspell was nominated as I had wanted to see it, and now I have. But mostly I'm glad for all the amazing background scenes of New York City (if they could just release a director's cut without the cast members, that would be great)
I like your honesty Citizen. This musical is a tough one. It is indeed not for everyone. I loved it and it cheered me up. I was actually rewatching it and got myself the soundtrack. that crazy i am

For me it was refreshing and genius idea to travel in time and set Jesus's arrival to 70s. How the director puts it in picture to make a contrast between corrupted society and Gospel (love and joy)? Well yes, he chose hippy movement. What one would choose to set Jesus arrival in 80s? Who would be His disciples? Punk rockers? Who knows? The atmosphere, the foolishness of it, exaggerated joy, naivete, and all that cheesiness was about the best director could do to describe the conversion from dull, sad to joy and love.

i wanted to write much much more about this opera however didnt want to sound like a theological treatise, or preaching about.
__________________
You can call it the art of fighting without fighting.



Women will be your undoing, Pépé
The atmosphere, the foolishness of it, exaggerated joy, naivete, and all that cheesiness was about the best director could do to describe the conversion from dull, sad to joy and love.
That IS quite a lovely perspective on it.



Thursday Next's Avatar
I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

I remember exactly how I felt about this as a child, that it was a curious mixture of almost embarrassing silliness and fun. I think it was probably one of the first movies I saw that I would characterise as a guilty pleasure - I knew it wasn’t in the slightest bit cool, but I secretly enjoyed it anyway.

As an adult, I feel, well, exactly the same. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang is not cool. It’s fantastical, far too long and corny as anything, plus it has a terrible title, but it’s still a lot of fun. I like the weird inventions and the period costumes and locations. The child catcher is still a bit creepy - possibly even creepier.

It’s not a personal favourite, but it is a classic children’s adventure, with a good writing pedigree that includes Ian Fleming and Roald Dahl on the credits.

Beyond the title track and the sugary Truly Scrumptious, the songs are not as memorable as, say, the ones in Mary Poppins, and perhaps this is where it falls down a little. And it does have its corny side which makes it hard to take as seriously as some of the other contenders.



My first choice for a nomination for this HoF was the movie Damn Yankees (1958), but I chose a different movie because it seemed to be very hard to find, and I didn't want people to have a hard time finding my nom. (Ironically that's exactly what happened with my nom in the other musical HoF. ) But the movie is about baseball, which is basically an American sport, so I didn't know if anyone here would even care about what was happening to the characters in the movie, so I guess in the long run, maybe the movie being hard to find might have been a blessing in disguise.
I love Damn Yankees...it was the first musical I appeared in when I was in high school...that show was SO much fun, love the score.



I PM'd Citizen about this, but I thought I would mention here that I re-watched 1776 over the weekend and the print I watched actually included a number that was cut during the film's original release, a song called "Cool, Considerate Men", which was freaking brilliant. A richly unique musical experience that just gets better every time I watch it...the movie is almost 3 hours long but never felt it.





Chitty Chitty Bang Bang



At the top of that list is "Posh!" sung by Grandpa Potts from his. . . "laboratory" in the midst of being kidnapped and also "The Roses of Success" which is a great lil song about failures are, truly, blessings, since they lead you to success. And of course, early in the movie, "Me Ole Bamboo" which is just all kinds of catchy fun.

Clazor[/mention]
I love "Posh" too...flawlessly performed by Lionel Jeffries, but was never that keen on The Roses of Success...I think it brings the film to a dead halt. If the truth be told, my favorite musical moment in the film is "Doll on a Music/Truly Scrumptious".




[b]The Pajama Game (1957)


I like Doris Day here, I always like Doris. She doesn't get to develop her character as much as usual, but she has some great songs. Loved the comic song, There Once Was a Man, and the heart breaking Hey There, which is a classic. Wow, Doris looked great in the picnic scene, well she looked great in the entire film, so did everywhere.

If there was one thing I wasn't big on was John Raitt, he's one helluva baritone singer, but he didn't bring much personality to the role. This is his only lead role in a movie. I wish Howard Keel could have done his part.

Great nomination GBG, I enjoyed it!

Oh almost forgot to mention my favorite set piece, the pale pink 50s refrigerator with the big chrome handle, way cool!
So glad you enjoyed this movie, Citizen...it's absolutely superb and inexplicably died at the box office during its original release. I know you love Doris Day so I knew that I would clinch it for you, and this was one of her best performances. I also agree with you regarding John Raitt and now that you mention it, Howard Keel would have made a great Sid, his chemistry with Day having already been proven with Calamity Jane.