Sooo...I'm Transgender!!

Well, the coworkers in my department now know that I'm transgender. It went a lot smoother than I had expected, so yeah...that was a good thing.

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OK I have a question because this came up on FB, and by male bodybuilders, not female. I dont have an opinion on this at the mo but interested in opinions. Is this fair?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/14565/...prestigiacomo#

and is it different to this



One is born a man, the other is born intersex. Does that give them a physical advantage? Just thought this would be an interesting discussion, not trying to open a can of worms.

Sure you don't mean "masculine" and "feminine"?

You don't have to be female for that.

You don't have to be female for that either.

And you don't have to be female for that either.

Have you considered the possibility that this "research" you did has deliberately exacerbated your self-consciousness and conveniently offered you a remedy in the form of a community label as a means to acquire the sort of class protection and privileges society renders in deference to outgroups?

Could it not be that you are merely male... who simply prefers things traditionally stereotyped as feminine?

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Well, it is a can of worms that will have to be addressed.

I remember a few years back (on another site) talking about genders and bathrooms... and people laughed at me for ruminating on a topic that the majority felt was unrealistic. They told me that such a thing would NEVER become an issue and that I was being ridiculous by "making up" these stupid slippery slope scenarios that would NEVER need to be addressed.

On a recent news show, there was a discussion about how to deal with transgendered athletes (or those who simply want to be reclassified as the gender they identify with) who may still have physical advantages of their birth gender or of their former gender if they are post surgical (some biological traits just can't be removed completely, like basic muscular structure). And the ironic thing was the activist being interviewed said it was ridiculous to even talk about such things because it will never be an issue - because right now, the issue is what bathrooms people can use who "identify" with a gender that's different than their biology.

I guess what I'm saying is, if you want to go vegan, a sex change is entirely optional.
And doesn't really "change" your sex.

Congratulations!

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Are we going to have a separate event for transgender people? Men, transitioning to women and dominating in women's events should be addressed. I for one, think it is unfair, but do people want to speak up to it? Probably not.

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There is a lot here for me to address so I won't get to it till lunch time.

But I just wanted to say that the athletics thing is giberrish. I will get into more detail later but when a MTF athlete is on hormones any advantage they once had is gone or so severely limited that it might as well be gone.

Now the real thing to address in sports is FTM athletes who aren't allowed to compete with men and are forced to compete with women. Those athletes have a distinct and measurable advantage. They should be allowed to compete with men because they are men.

I think John McClane is entitled to do whatever they want with their own body. However you could say I'm adversarial to the idea, especially insofar as it can influence impressionable children.

Yes and it's incredibly unfair

that's not true and even if it were true, saying "it might as well be gone" or "limited" is not scientific enough

Even for a male who transitioned to female as a child when they weren't fully developed there is no science to say no advantage

And why don't we ever hear about MTF athletes losing. I don't think people need science to know what they know.

I hear about losers all the time. In fact, when I watch sports, that's all I ever hear about: Duke losing to South Carolina at the NCAA tournament, Falcon's losing to Partiots at the Super Bowl, and USSR losing to USA at the 1980's Olympics.

Race Times for Transgender Athletes & Transsexuals and competitive sports. These studies illustrate two things: one, HRT affects sporting performance; and two, sporting performance is volatile and affected by morphology changes.

Where are these athletes who are dominating?

Yes, I meant masculine and feminine. And yes, I've considered that. And no, it's not the case. And what class protections/privileges???

What purpose does it serve to call yourself transgender?
Why not transvestite?
Or transsexual?

Uh, because that's what I am: transgender. My identity of who I am is different from what is on my documentation.

Because I'm neither of those.

not sure why you quoted me to say that, but, i agree with you

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How do you define transgender?

With a copy of Merriam-Webster.

Transgender: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth

Do you accept gender as a social construct or a biological one? If social, then by "gender identity" do you mean to identity as a stereotypical gender role?

Yes, I believe gender is a social construct. And no, gender identity does not mean that for me. I can't speak for others but I am certain many more would agree with me.

Then, accepting that "woman" is a gender, what does it mean to be a woman?