Christ, man, this is the first one I've even heard of! Except Paths of glory. Just goes to show how limited my knowledge is...Just when I think I have a respectable knowledge and watching experience, something like this happens. I didn't even see Mark here. Is it POSSIBLE he hasn't seen them all?!
This movie often features in the "Greatest ever" war movies or some such list. I do feel it is a movie worth watching but also feel it is overrated. The main reason for this is the pacing. It feels so disjointed. The first act is over an hour long, in which we learn all about their current, working class lives. Then within 5 minutes of the second act, our heroes have been to war and been captured. It just felt like Michael Cimino didn't have the budget to film the war scenes he wanted so the entire 2nd act was rushed.
Obviously you can't ignore the iconic, horrifying scenes that the movie is infamous for, or the acting by Walken and de Niro. But I think overall I'd give it 7/10 due to the long winded 1st act and slightly bizarre pacing. Good but not great.
Anyway, I love this. Deeply emotional etc. Beautiful film. And the score. My nam fave is The Killing Fields however. The Bridge on the river Kwai as my fave war.
My only objection would be that it drives too much on pathos. So, i agree a bit. It's a bit overrated.
I don't know if you're right about the budget, but didn't he make the biggest flop in history? I think it's even in the Guinness book of records! Heaven's gate, what's it called?
i also think Christopher overshadowed Robert here. And speaking of overrated, I'm not gonna invite trouble by saying Robert is overrated, i love him, but I also feel there are better actors, like Alec Guinness, Kevin Spacey, Sean Penn, Ewan McGregor, James Dean, Christopher Lee, Gene Hackman, Jack Lemmon, Marlon Brando, Kirk Douglas, Robert Mitchum, Christian Bale etc.
I agree 100%.
Maybe the point is to show horrors of war without actually showing war itself?
'The Deerhunter' (1978)
This movie often features in the "Greatest ever" war movies or some such list. I do feel it is a movie worth watching but also feel it is overrated. The main reason for this is the pacing. It feels so disjointed. The first act is over an hour long, in which we learn all about their current, working class lives. Then within 5 minutes of the second act, our heroes have been to war and been captured. It just felt like Michael Cimino didn't have the budget to film the war scenes he wanted so the entire 2nd act was rushed.
Obviously you can't ignore the iconic, horrifying scenes that the movie is infamous for, or the acting by Walken and de Niro. But I think overall I'd give it 7/10 due to the long winded 1st act and slightly bizarre pacing. Good but not great.
My only objection would be that it drives too much on pathos. So, i agree a bit. It's a bit overrated.
I don't know if you're right about the budget, but didn't he make the biggest flop in history? I think it's even in the Guinness book of records! Heaven's gate, what's it called?
i also think Christopher overshadowed Robert here. And speaking of overrated, I'm not gonna invite trouble by saying Robert is overrated, i love him, but I also feel there are better actors, like Alec Guinness, Kevin Spacey, Sean Penn, Ewan McGregor, James Dean, Christopher Lee, Gene Hackman, Jack Lemmon, Marlon Brando, Kirk Douglas, Robert Mitchum, Christian Bale etc.
I love The Deer Hunter, I'd certainly never argue against anyone saying it's drawn out in places but personally I have no issue with the brevity or lack of war scenes as those salient to the human drama that unfolds are all in place and the war serving as both backdrop and context is enough for me without it potentially distracting from that story.
Yes, I think the movie is strong enough in the right places to be considered a good movie, but I was just surprised by how quickly we were thrust into the harrowing war scenes after such a long drawn out first act.