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A Clockwork Orange was #7 on the MoFo '70s List and #9 on the MoFo Sci-Fi List while Once Upon a Time in the West was #5 on the MoFo '60s List and #2 on the MoFo Westerns List.
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Once Upon a Time in the West is my all-time favorite Western, so no surprise it was on my list. Eternally personal top ten material I had it at number eight this time around. Leone's style and sensibility meshed with a script that hits all the highlights of classic Westerns in the best Revisionist Western ever made, from the tense opening to Hank Fonda shooting a kid in the face to Morricone's epic score and all the rest that follows I literally cannot get enough of this one.

And I had One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest on my list as well, though down at twenty-four. Two points ain't much, but I couldn't leave it off of my ballot. The novel is brilliant but I think it is one of the few adaptations of a wonderful book where the film is an even greater achievement.

That is seven of mine, I should have eight more coming in the top thirty.

HOLDEN'S LIST
8. Once Upon a Time in the West (#31)
10. Singin’ in the Rain (#64)
15. North by Northwest (#57)
16. Young Frankenstein (#77)
19. Brazil (#100)
23. Unforgiven (#43)
24. One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (#33)




Bright light. Bright light. Uh oh.

The first time I watched A Clockwork Orange was on a double bill with Deliverance at a very large screen theatre when I was 18. I watched it by myself. Both movies pretty much blew my mind. The music in A Clockwork Orange was really overpowering, perhaps even moreso than the potent imagery. It was really quite shocking to see it considering that Kubrick's last film was the G-rated 2001: A Space Odyssey.

A Clockwork Orange sucks the viewer in with a weird, otherworldly atmosphere by using high-contrast photography and a Beethoven soundtrack. It isn't science fiction. It's closer to some kind of alternate universe. Almost immediately it pummels you with sex and ultraviolence in an attempt to either turn you on or turn you off (or perhaps more significantly, both at the same time). The subject matter is rather repulsive but the cinematics are spectacular. We follow Alex and his "little droogies" around while they "shag and fag" and vicariously see things which seem beyond the pale, but Beethoven is just oh so beautiful.

Then, the flick turns a bit more serious and substantial when Alex ends up in prison and is enticed to undergo some kind of miracle therapy. I know many people who love the first part of the film but say that the next section (the point of the film) is "boring". They wanted more in-out and ultra violence. Well, we do get to that and that's the film's coup. The authorities basically use A Clockwork Orange itself as the miracle cure for Alex to become a "normal member of society". Alex is forced to watch a facsimile of A Clockwork Orange to get repulsed by rape and violence, and since Beethoven is on the soundtrack, it deeply disturbs and affects him. The whole thing is really just a political scam though with Alex as the guinea pig in the middle of a political war. However, even the "peace and freedom" types want their revenge on Alex so the whole movie comes full circle.

Now, I realize that what I'm saying here is nothing new or enlightening. It's always been there right in the film. But as time goes by, and I get more and more students who started watching ultra-violent films and pornos when they were five-years-old, and they mostly have a kid or two by the time they're 15 and they belong to gangs and want to do things like Alex does in the first part of the movie, A Clockwork Orange takes on a kind of prescience which makes it seem better now than when it was first released. But I've always been deeply disturbed because I loved the film the first time.

I have had something of a love/hate relationship with Once Upon a Time in the West since I first saw it. I can remember the very first time, I thought the opening credits with all the water dripping and extended BS was an attack on the audience, but now I can see it as an entertainer (and I believe that Leone believed himself to be more of an entertainer than an artist) trying to tell his audience that they are going to see the most personal "spaghetti" western ever made. Back in the day, the attenuated presentation pissed the crap out of me, but nowadays, I can see the thing as the first (and probably, the only) western opera. I still have problems with it, but it's easy for me to watch it repeatedly. In fact, the movie this mostly reminds me of is Apocalypse Now. Coppola probably owes Leone some more acknowledgment, but Leone may have needed to pay back the compliment with his later gangster epic.

Little did I realize that he and Morricone were creating the first genuine opera in western history. Have you heard of the term "horse opera"? That's just some way of warning certain people that westerns may be melodramatic at times. But IT is a legit opera, and if you didn't know it, operas tend to be LONG. It's is Leone's most-otherworldly western - it's almost as if a literal horse opera were set on another planet although Monument Valley plays a part. That works with my idea though since Monument Valley also makes an appearance in 2001: A Space Odyssey during "Beyond the Infinite".
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A Clockwork Orange & Once Upon a Time in the West

Both worthy of the countdown but neither are favorites of mine.





Going into A Clockwork Orange for the first time, I was a bit worried as to how violent it would be. While I was aware of its reputation as a great film, I knew that a lot of disturbing content would be in it, rape specifically. When I watched it though, I found it to be surprisingly tame. Like, yes, there are some rape scenes, but the first two only show the buildup without displaying the actual act, while the third one involves a number of cutaways and doesn't last that long. It's more or less frequent nudity than frequent violence. Having learned this, I got to experience the other merits of the film, like Alex's effective character arc, its musings of free will and the way the government deprived Alex of it, the depiction of the Ludovico treatment and the way it extended to people other than Alex, and the fantastic score. It shocked me when I first watched it and every subsequent viewing has only increased my admiration of it. Happy to see it here.

I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West yet, but I have seen Leone's Dollars trilogy, so I plan to do so soon.
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Never got the love for Clockwork. Tried it a few times, just never got into it.
Once Upon is classic Spaghetti in every sense.

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Top 30 coming up tomorrow then

2010 >> 2020 Comparison  
ok here we go with some more fun bashing Part 2 - 50 to 31

47. Reservoir Dogs >> The Exorcist - The most scariest overhyped horror movie ever is really one of the most laughable overhyped movie ever

35. Memento >> The Godfather: Part II
Were off to see the wizard and about to get killed, the blood the blood the blood all over everyone lol

38. Once Upon A Time In The West >>It's A Wonderful Life
Damn he back again, shouting out Merry Christmas, ah it's ok the next movie (aliens) bit his head off this time, for some reason he survived his termination at #56

32. American History X >>A Clockwork Orange
this movie beating out Die Hard, Terminator, Halloween and other good movie is just horrible. Jules from Pulp Fiction may need to take Alex out for good. "I dare yea to sing Singin in the Rain one more time mutha fka." lol

More to come when #11 hits
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Hopefully not the last time we see Leone on this countdown

70/70

7/25 (Once Upon A Time in the West - #7 -)



OUATITW is very good. Only saw it once.

ACO is excellent but I’m less likely to just throw it on now than I was when I was a teen.



Decade Breakdown so far - update

From 2020 List
20s - 1
30s - 2
40s - 2
50s - 7
60s - 9
70s - 13
80s -12
90s - 14
2000s - 8
2010s - 2

My Summary:
Seen: 23/70

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37 New Movies from 2020 List
33 Movies from 2010 List

I think it's safe to say now that not a lot of 2010s aren't showing up on this list, which is fine, it would be cool if we got some more though



32. A Clockwork Orange
31. Once Upon a Time in the West


finally some slots that I have no much problem with.
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Both films are top 100 worthy, but I didn't put either on my ballot.
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When I was first getting into films I watched A Clockwork Orange a couple of times and enjoyed it a lot. I've caught it a couple of times on TV since and it's never pulled me in the same gripping way.

Once Upon a Time in the West I think is a great film and I've always enjoyed Sergio Leone's films a lot. However, since my younger film viewing days, I've become a much bigger than of classic American Westerns which aren't all necessarily talked about as much but I consider just as cool and stylish in their own ways. I know I'm in the minority but nowadays I'd probably prefer watching pretty much any John Ford Western over it. It didn't make my list but I'm glad it's on here.

Not trying to be negative towards it, I guess I'm just sad that films like Stagecoach, My Darling Clementine, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance have missed out.
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Wizard of Oz: Almost nothing on this earth is better. Was in my top 5 somewhere, I believe. Doesn't waste an inch of space on the screen. Crammed full of delights, and not just the bodies of dwarf suicides. It's everything that movie escapism should be, a thing that instills both wonder and fear in equal measure. As a film, probably has the most indelible images from any movie I've ever watched. Too many to count, although I think the part I looked forward to the most as a child was the Lollipop Guild, who I was never sure if I wanted to hang out with, or I was frightened might eventually mug me of my candy one Halloween, and leave me for dead. It, along with the number 2 movie on my list, should be time capsule movies, the only ones that really matter when the dust of our civilization clears. While I wouldn't change anything, I'l admit that I've grown to find Jack Haley's performance a bit of a clunker. Or a clanker, depending on how willing I am to make Tin Man allusions.



Godfather 2: Better than the original. As someone who often finds the perfection of some films uninspiring, the first film just seems too concerned with getting every detail just right. There are good reasons it shows up in top 5's all through cinema list history, but my hands slip off of it when I try and grab hold. There are no irregularly shaped pieces to get a handle on it. Godfather 2 though is all sprawl, and while it is just as magnificently produced, there is a sloppiness inherent in movies that just stuff itself full of competing plot threads and backstories and side characters. While this also isn't an absolute favorite for me, I find it a much more interesting watch. Plus, it has more John Cazale, which is the secret weapon of any movie he is in.



Back to the Future - A childhood favorite that didn't survive my transition to adulthood (similar to Ghostbusters). I've got nothing against it. Full of great performances, fantastic concept, early example of exciting special effects and introduced me to the pains of deciphering all the fallacies of time travel at an early age. For some reason I just admire it now though, and don't fall under its spell. Maybe I just watched it too much as a kid.


One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest: This was a childhood favorite, instilling in me the hope that one day I could voluntarily commit myself to a nuthouse once I finished school. Inspirational, until I realized it was much harder work to get yourself put away, and so I abandoned those aspirations by the time I was about....25. Nurse Ratched is certainly top 5 villain material, and the reason can be found in how there seems to be debate about this here. Her cruelty is complicated, and these complications are the meat on the bones of how terrible she truly is. Ultimately, even if I understand why people think otherwise, it really shoudn't be up for debate if she is a villain. She definitely is. But she can easily deceive us since heer intentions are likely good. She follows the rules, no matter the appeals of those she is in charge of. Her villainy is born from (as many villains in the real world) her belief in a system that oppresses instead of empathizes. She's 'just following orders'. A conduit for authoritarianism to take root. She's everything we should be frightened of, in the real world, because there are Nurse Ratched's everywhere. And sometimes we still can't tell just how villainous they truly are, because they cloak themselves in supposed good intentions. It also should be noted that Nicholson has never been better. McMurphy is an inspirational character, who is not necessarily acting in the interest of those he helps. A morally complicated character, whose 'heroism' deserves to be recognized at how human it is. And by human, I mean flawed and sometimes self serving. You know, like real life.


Clockwork Orange: This particular Kubrick movie has probably done the most fluctuating as to where I put it in his overall filmography. Currently its near the top, but it's bobbed up and down numerous times. Why? Because I've never watched it and come away with the same feelings twice. Like, Cuckoo, it is a similar jab at the corrosive powers of authority, and how complicated evil sometimes is to determine with complete exactness. My ever fluctuating feelings towards the movie though, are what has likely made it so it will remain near the top from now on, out of respect for how densely confrontational and contradictory its ideas are. For how it makes a crime rampage through a city seem both nauseating and appealing. How it moves and feels like few other films, almost seducing us towards unleashing the violence we keep inside ourselves. It's a movie with legitimately terrifying implications. Also, as a side not, it just so happens I had to contrast this novel with Cuckoo's Nest in highschool. It was one of the only papers I ever got a good mark on, because they were two of the only books I ever read in school that seemed like they had anything at all to say to me. And for this alone, thumbs up. You got me into university Clockwork Orange


One Upon a Time in the West - I've only seen this once all the way through. The scale of it is as epic as that of 2001, yet it takes place in a mound of dust. Since I haven't seen it in so long though, I can't recall much other than the fact that it is the greatest opening in film history (either this or the cold opening of Fuller's Naked Kiss, never under estimate beginning your movie with a point of view beating by a bald hooker). It also is probably my favorite Leone, even though I haven't returned to it in ages.



...I guess I'm just sad that films like Stagecoach, My Darling Clementine, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance have missed out.
Agreed...but at least those films made the Western Countdown, at least I think most of them did.



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On the DVD extras Louise Fletcher said that everyone on the set was having a great time being generally wild and spirited, but she felt she had to stay in character. So when the shooting was all done, she let loose and went topless on the set, which everyone cheered. Of course today she might be charged with sexual harassment. Just different times
Wow! What a story-- not to mention a wonderful mental image...



Once Upon A Time In The West was my #2. I have only seen it twice but it is one of a couple movies that had to immediately be in my top ten. That beginning is a masterclass in storytelling with sound. Immediately draws you into this sweaty dangerous world. I am not even a fan of Bronson or Fonda, but they both are perfect here. I could just gush over all the storytelling mechanics of this film all day. It's wonderful. Most importantly, if I ever see a boot hanging in front of a window while I am on a train, I will no to duck.

Clockwork Orange is good, especially the second half. I don't care if I ever see it again though and probably would make my top 250. Although it would place higher thatn the Kubrick that will probably be top 5.
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I had A Clockwork Orange at #10 on my list. There's nothing I could say about that hasn't been said before, but here's my story of first watching it. I borrowed the VHS tape from a friend, watched a half hour of it, and shut it off. Then in a few days, watched another half hour. And so on. So it was not love at first sight, but after I had finally gotten through it, I thought this was a movie I could potentially love, now that I knew what it was about, if I watched it proper-like. And that is exactly what happened. On a second, proper viewing, i connected deeply with the movie, and many viewings later, including on the big screen, it is definitely one of my all-time favorites.

My List:
1. Unforgiven (#43)
3. North by Northwest (#57)
10. A Clockwork Orange (#32)
15. Metropolis (#73)
21. Enter the Dragon (#97)
24. There Will Be Blood (#60)
25. Persona (#45)
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Back to the Future is an enjoyable film, but for whatever reason it's never been entirely my cup of tea. Just a matter of taste, I suppose.

Similarly, Jack Nicholson is the actor who everyone else loves but I just find irritating, no matter what role he's playing. (Well, him and Sean Penn.) So it's difficult for me to assess even obviously well-made films like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. In any event, neither made my list

I love Kubrick pretty unreservedly, but A Clockwork Orange is just too brutal for me. Not the Kubrick I picked. However, Once Upon a Time in the West is my favorite Leone, both epic and personal, with Henry Fonda in the role he was born to play, a real a-hole. It made my list at #11.