[quote=Iroquois][quote=Velvet]also intresting they included Team America. I havent seen it but if it in any way reflects south park I would say its definitely more in the middle than conservative as south parks basically goes after every side[/quote]

Yeah, but a recurrent criticism of Parker/Stone stuff in recent years is that these attack-all-sides approaches they take still can't help but default to one side or another - often further right than left. [i]Team America[/i] ostensibly starts as a satire of U.S. military intervention but halfway through it switches to mocking left-wing celebrities and how their idealistic pacifism make them easily manipulated by the film's genocidal dictator villain - thus necessitating Team America's intervention.[/quote]

[quote=mattiasflgrtll6]It takes a lot for me to really label something "a conservative movie". Usually if I like a movie that much, I don't even think about it being conservative. Gran Torino is still one hell of a great movie if it happens to contain conservative elements.[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]I've heard people say that. They argue their are actually lots of conservative movies, but they do it by defining "conservative" in a really broad way that encompasses near-universal moral principles, or all of Western cultural values, or whatever.[/quote]

[quote=Velvet]Just because a film has a classic good vs evil does it make it a conservative film?[/quote]

[quote=Velvet]I wish I was in a fantasy football league just to play mitch trubisky against the patriots. I have a feeling he is going to go off though I may be wrong[/quote]

[quote=Yoda][quote=Iroquois]Guess it depends on how you define a conservative movie - does it have to get explicit about its stances or does it just have to support a conservative interpretation better than any other? I would imagine the former is preferable.[/quote]
It is, but pickens  are a little slim, so it often ends up being the latter.[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=Velvet]Hmm intresting article. Funny it says "liberals have never forgiven gibson since" considering I consider myself left leaning and I thoroughly enjoy braveheart. I guess I dont view things through a political lens often.[/quote]

Yeah, I find that curious. Wonder how much of that is to do with Gibson's more recent controversies retroactively tainting his previous work or if people had their problems with it at the time as well.[/quote]

[quote=Velvet]also intresting they included Team America. I havent seen it but if it in any way reflects south park I would say its definitely more in the middle than conservative as south parks basically goes after every side[/quote]

[quote=Yoda]Sure, but it also depicts some of them as sympathetic and they make a case Juno responds to.

Making fun of extremes isn't really opposing that side. If anything, it's a way to come off as more even-handed, if you're concerned you look like you're [i]taking[/i] that side.[/quote]

[quote=Velvet]dont they make fun of extreme pro life people in Juno? Its been awhile since Ive seen it but I seem to remember some jabs taken at them[/quote]

[quote=Iroquois][quote=Sedai]It's one of the more interesting aspects of [i]The Dark Knight[/i]. With Fox calling out and taking stand, and ultimately quitting over the move with the cell phones, the poor morality of the move is exposed. The move also highlights one of the main themes of the film, inn that with people like The Joker, Batman can't win unless he ultimately compromises himself and his stances. he has to break the rules to deal with a man who lives to break the rules.[/quote]

I know, hence why it's weird that the contributor was apparently onboard with it and ultimately interpreted the film as an admiration of Bush II (who also let himself be hated like Batman does at the end of the film). I think that's just one of the entries that really reaches to make it fit the criteria (the same goes for claiming that [i]Juno[/i] is pro-life, but I guess that's its own discussion). Still, I guess that's better than the entries where the whole reason amounts to "f*ck yeah war".[/quote]