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Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Yes, but not every work has an inherent sense of meaning beyond being a story where a sequence of events leads to a thematic conclusion. There’s a lot to be said for the aesthetic approach. Beauty in architecture and even human proportions has objective parameters, such as the golden ratio. No such objective measures exist to determine whether a film or a novel possess the quality of beauty. But I would say that while every work of art has an ideology, that comes from the author and his beliefs, preconceptions and prejudices. It doesn’t always translate to the work itself, and it’s perfectly possible to create a narrative that is just a narrative, with little or no moral compass or a ‘point’ to make. It’s up to anyone to like or dislike such a work, but art itself does not inherently carry a message. I don’t think that ‘anything goes’ in interpreting a given work of art, as some interpretations can be plain wrong, but some works of art do not exist to be interpreted at all and constitute pure entertainment. That should not, in my view, take away from their validity and right to exist, though to engage or not engage with them is a personal choice. I would say that approaching a film or a novel at face value and analysing how it works in terms of storytelling, without taking into account its message if such exists, is viewing it in an abstract manner.
Originally Posted by Iroquois
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Originally Posted by Iroquois
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Fair enough. It felt like a bit of a rant, although I agree politics should probably be left alone in art-related forums.
Originally Posted by Yoda
Keep saying thoughtful and nuanced things, people, and I'll be forced to move this into a thread.
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Originally Posted by Iroquois
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Fair enough. It felt like a bit of a rant, although I agree politics should probably be left alone in art-related forums.
Originally Posted by Yoda
Agripp makes an interesting point just now that I hadn't considered before: that even if art is political, it doesn't obligate us to engage with it primarily on that level.
Agripp makes an interesting point just now that I hadn't considered before: that even if art is political, it doesn't obligate us to engage with it primarily on that level.
Originally Posted by Yoda
Anyway, for the purposes of running an art-themed forum, I think there's a pretty obvious (and necessary) distinction between examining the political stances films do or don't take, and just using them to pivot to talking about political issues explicitly.
Originally Posted by Iroquois
Originally Posted by AgrippinaX
Fair enough. It felt like a bit of a rant, although I agree politics should probably be left alone in art-related forums.