The Shoutbox
Of course it all could be a “Wag the Dog” scenario! 😏
Originally Posted by Austruck
...But in this day and age, I honestly doubt even a tragedy like 9/11 could pull the country together anymore. (And even that didn't last all that long.)
I didn't mean the entire country or that all of Congress would get behind a president in time of war. I mean the percentages of support go up, at least initially. I do think (depending on the circumstances) a war with Iran could boast Trumps public support and make it easier for him to get re-elected. And in case if anyone doesn't know: I do not approve of Trump or want war with Iran.
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules
Originally Posted by Sedai
@CitizenRules - I would think starting a war would be the one thing that ends up dooming his reelection, which is why the left has been banging said war drums, mentioned above.
Bear in mind that I'm a political noob. I'm not up on anything current. But I'm pretty sure I've heard it said that any setting president will go up in public opinion polls during time of war and that a split congress will initially show more unity in supporting a war time president. At least that's what I think has been shown historically to be true. I suppose it all has to do with the timing. As after a long war conflict people get restless and then stop supporting the war effort.
This might have been true in the past -- with clear-cut declarations of war, with aggressors who drew us into it, etc.

But in this day and age, I honestly doubt even a tragedy like 9/11 could pull the country together anymore. (And even that didn't last all that long.)
Historically, you would be correct. However, today's climate is unprecedented, to say the least. Both sides of the aisle have become so reactionary, there is no telling what is going to happen next...

Trump: I am reactivating the moon missions

Dems: Nuke the moon!
Originally Posted by Sedai
@CitizenRules - I would think starting a war would be the one thing that ends up dooming his reelection, which is why the left has been banging said war drums, mentioned above.
Bear in mind that I'm a political noob. I'm not up on anything current. But I'm pretty sure I've heard it said that any setting president will go up in public opinion polls during time of war and that a split congress will initially show more unity in supporting a war time president. At least that's what I think has been shown historically to be true. I suppose it all has to do with the timing. As after a long war conflict people get restless and then stop supporting the war effort.
Originally Posted by Powdered Water
I just wish that just one time... Just ONE time, we could go with option B. Which would be not to drop more bombs on another middle east country.
Originally Posted by Citizen Rules
Originally Posted by Powdered Water
I just wish that just one time... Just ONE time, we could go with option B. Which would be not to drop more bombs on another middle east country.
But how would Trump get re-elected if he doesn't start a little war
@PowderedWater Didn't we go with option B multiple other times in response to Iranian aggression in 2019? If not, why were all the left media outlets banging war drums and calling him weak? That happened. Jimmy Dore has some videos that collect the news clips if you are so inclined. Pretty sure a Democratic candidate based her entire platform on countering war hawk Dems, as well. Alas, he folded last night, so all that is moot now.

@CitizenRules - I would think starting a war would be the one thing that ends up dooming his reelection, which is why the left has been banging said war drums, mentioned above.
Or come to think of it, played over anything dissonant.
BTW my favorite genre of movie is gangsta rap played over video of puppies.
Don't worry, if we're really at the point where Iranian leaders are getting more trust than official statistics in a first-world country, I don't think I'll bother continuing much.
You two should get a room
Because your summary of events is explicitly contradicted by some of what I posted, so it sounds like you're just totally ignoring it.